Im Calling BS...

[ChrisAHF]

Got into a conversation about hunting with my Biology professor. I said I want to go deer huntung in the fall but want a slug barrel for my mossberg first. He said why bother, I got a doe at 80 yards last year with a smooth bore. After this statement I obviously had some questions. I asked what kind of scope he used and he said one of those low end red dots. To top it off he was also shooting offhand. Not sure how I feel about this. Of course im not going to say anything about it with finals coming up next week...

 

[m38shooter]

Nobody believes it, but my mom's boyfriend has taken two at that range with the built in sights.

I can't say as I blame people for not believing it, either. I watched one of them and saw it with my own eyes and still don't entirely believe it.

 

[1911Tuner]

Possible. I've shot 10-inch steel plates with slugs through an old 500 Mossberg Marinecoat with a 20-inch barrel using the front bead at a hundred yards...consistently.

 

[Eric F]

I shot a 3 gun match about 4 or 5 years ago one stage had you shooting standard idpa targets off hand at 100 yards with slugs 2 targets 1 hit each. You were allowed to have only 2 slug rounds loaded with no reloads. in my 5 man "squad" there was only 1 miss which was mine......go figure. So I can totally beleive this especially with a red dot.

 

[XavierBreath]

"People are still falling into the error of bragging about shots they should not have taken. It is not how far away your animal was, but how close you were able to get. Generally speaking, no shot attempted beyond 300 meters on a game animal should be exemplified. If you can get closer, get closer. Possibly the old Indian custom of counting coup might be revived. If you can get close enough to a white tailed deer or a Rocky Mountain bighorn to slap him with the flat of your hand, you have really achieved the remarkable."
Jeff Cooper

 

[rcmodel]

Not BS!
Smoothbore barrels with Foster slugs will easily group well enough to kill a deer at 80 yards, or even 100 or more.
It's not uncommon to see 3" groups at 50 yards. (6 MOA)

It's entirely possible if the guy had been practicing at those ranges and knew where his gun was hitting.
(And could estimate or measure range that good.)

Or, he could have just got lucky!
Regardless, I'd believe him if it was me.

rcmodel

 

[Hanzerik]

You can get rifled slugs for shooting through a smooth bore right? Why would you think shooting a deer size target at 80 yards is that difficult to do? 80 yards is not that far.

Now I must say that I have never fired a shotgun with slugs, so I may be wrong in thinking that a shotgun firing slugs should be able to keep a decent (Minute of Deer) group at 100 yards.

 

[1911Tuner]

It's entirely possible if the guy had been practicing at those ranges and knew where his gun was hitting.

Also possible that it was just "zeroed" for it. My hits on the steel plates are done by looking straight down the top of the receiver at the bead, with no barrel visible. Put the bead in the center of the plate...and squeeze.

1-ounce slugs really knock the plates windin'.

I've also got a Liberty double Coach Gun that...with just the bead...converges the slugs on target...2 inches high at 50 yards.
The holes are nearly touching.

 

[bnkrazy]

I'd say that's pretty believable. I do know my dad has taken a lot of deer with rifled slugs in a smooth bore (Rem 1100), at or beyond 80yds with just the bead sight.

 

[jimmyraythomason]

80 to 100 yard shots are very possible with slugs from smooth barrels and around here, fairly common. FWIW,"Calling B.S." is not a good way to start a conversation. It automatically puts folks on the defensive.

 

[jakk280rem]

i watched a gentleman shoot 2 1/2 inch groups at 100 yards standing using nothing but a front and mid bead. he was using sabots but i dont know if it was a smoothbore or rifled barrel.

 

[briansmech]

you hunt your way, let others hunt theirs.


our poor ancestors of such eons ago... or maybe 25-35 years ago.... couldnt afford $1500 rifles with $1500 scopes, or even $500 rifle scope packages, which would've cost some bucks to relative economys.

i learned on iron sights. hunting is hunting. it's like golf. some people need to spend thousands on gear and courses where they document every shot and record every hole. /respect much. others just like to get out and play the game. an old club and a hole, and all day long to chase the ball. /respect much.

have alot more distaste for people that can't respect one or the other, really.

 

[230RN]

I don't find that shot remarkable at all. I used to plunk ten inch rocks with regularity at about that distance with Irving, my ancient Mossy, with a select-a-choke barrel set to ever so slightly tighter than cylinder and just a bead front sight. That one ounce slug, still going at, what, 1100 f/s?, would sure make them bounce back a foot or two, if it didn't shatter them.

I sure didn't want to take a ten shot bench rest group with it, though. My shoulder would not have taken it.

Nevertheless, I can still kick myself in the butt for not buying a rifled slug barrel with front and rear sights for it for about $90.00 a couple of years ago.

Now, they're about $150.

Still wouldn't want to use more than three or four rounds to sight it in though, that's fer danged sure. Owie.

Thirty or forty years ago, when the Grasslands were still the Grasslands, and 230RN was still 230RN, it was perfectly safe to bounce one of those slugs along the ground and watch the puffs of dust progress along for what, six or seven hundred yards before the dirt-puffs got too small to discern with certainty.

Sorta like skipping rocks on a lake.

Yeah, I know, you're going to come down on me for doing such a "dangerous" thing, but it was perfectly safe back then.

 

[Wheeler44]

Chrisahf; Don't piss this guy off. You are lucky to have a Prof. that shoots and hunts. You might ( if you are lucky) get an opportunity to learn more than just Biology from this guy. Think about it.

Wheeler44

 

[Eightball]

It's doable. I would consider it hard, but doable, and the only reason it'd be hard is because it's not what I'm used to doing--I live in a rifle state, as opposed to a shotgun state. I'm sure people across the river in IN have practiced to do just that (since it's a shotgun state).

 

[jnyork]

Probably not BS at all, sounds like a guy who knows what he's doing and practices at it. I know a guy who hunts with a smoothbore flintlock musket and does OK.

 

[Crunker1337]

If he practices a lot, then I don't see why not.
Still, that is some fancy shooting. O.O

 

[mp510]

I know somebody who took a deer at 100ish or just a little more with a 12 gauge smoothbore shotgun, bead sighted, using a simple rifled slug. I would be hesitant to call BS.

 

[markk]

It's not impossible. I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16 back home, they're not much bigger than two meters.

 

[Sistema1927]

He said 80 yards, not 800.

Has he said anything else that would lead you to think that he has a problem with the truth?

 

[rero360]

completely doable, I took my first doe with my mossburg 500 with smoothbore and rifled slugs and bead sights at a dead run at right around 50 meters, good clean kill. I took my button buck with my 11-87 with a rifled barrel and sabots and iron sights at a distance of 125 to 150 meters across a gully. again one shot kill, DRT. but I was also laying in the prone with the shotgun laying across a stump, where as the first kill was standing offhand.

 

[Jeff F]

Possible. I've shot 10-inch steel plates with slugs through an old 500 Mossberg Marinecoat with a 20-inch barrel using the front bead at a hundred yards...consistently.

Same here, and at one range I shoot at they have a 18 inch gong at 200 yards that I can ring pretty consistently ounce I get the elevation down and thats standing with rifle sights.

 

[Owen]

doable.

 

[RoadkingLarry]

I know that there are still people that regularly take game at that range and beyond with smooth bore muzzle loaders. If you practice and if the gun is consistent and you know where it hits not a problem at all.

 

[catfish101]

Shooting offhand doesn't matter much sometimes either. Some people with curtain guns are very steady. I have a Shiloh 1863 that I can shoot offhand almost as well as on a bench. I have some guns that I am not very steady with.