I'm Fed up

[Ala Dan]

Great rifle, even greater caliber. The .25-06 is highly accurate from bullet
weights ranging from 87 grains (varmints) to 117-120 pronghorn sheep
size game. As has been mentioned, let some one else shoot YOUR gun;
and see how they do~? It could be several factors other than the weapon
or caliber~!

 

[ArchAngelCD]

Shot 4 round test groups and 2 groups shot within a 1" group. the others were just over an inch. An amazing difference. I think the copper was the main issue.

I'm glad removing the Copper from your barrel did the trick, I kinda knew it would.

 

[Waldog]

What is your barrel twist? I have a 25.06 that my Dad made on milled 1917 enfield action when it was still a wildcat cartridge (1958). It has a 12" barrel. Shoots 100gr and lighter very well. Heavier bullets don't shoot worth a darn. Generally, 117gr and heavier needs a 10" twist to properly stabilize.

 

[wankerjake]

Glad you're rifle is shooting better. For what it's worth, i have had best luck with H4831 at max or near max charges. My experience is limited to 2 calibers, but one was a Ruger M77 in 25-06 shooting a 117gr sierra BTSP. The other was a Winchester 243. Both grouped best (1" at 100 yards or better) at max or near max charges. If you haven't tried near max powder charges with 4831, I would try that if I were you.

 

[Tango2020]

I have H4831sc IMR 4350 and VVN 160 on my bench. Now I know I have my accuracy back I think I have my work cut out for me. I have heard that Winchester primers sometimes make a difference so I my need to throw them in the mix. Currently using CCI 200s. So much to do and so little time. Woo hoooooo!

 

[ArchAngelCD]

I use both Winchester and CCI primers in my 30-06 ammo and I can't see any difference between the two. With a 165gr bullet I prefer H4350 but I have used IMR4350 with similar results.

 

[Huckelberry75]

My A-bolt 25-06 loves the Nosler BT's in 100 grain with 51.0 gn of IMR 4350. It's stupid accurate and wicked on whitetail. The last 4 deer it took were head shots at 99-221 yds.

 

[diriel]

Hi Tango,

For the 100+gr. bullets I would consider the H4831. Although 4350 is also really good powder for most stuff a 25-06 will do.

--- Winchester Cases
--- Winchester LR Primers
--- Berger 115gr Hunting VLD
--- H4831 @ 48 Starting up to around 52ish max. The 2 I reload for (not mine) seem to like 51.4gr of H4831. Remember Always Work Up Slowly!!!!
This load chrono's out right about 2890, in the 2 rifles i load for, and is utterly deadly out to 500 yards. (min 2000fps and 1000lb of energy retained)

There are not a whole lot of combinations that will honestly beat it, and be anywhere remotely as pleasant to shoot. Certainly that 7mag will, but it is a fire breathing beast! Oh, if it is not a savage W / Accu-trigger...DON'T Do It!!!! just a word to the wise...some of the older savage / stevens were utterly sadistic to shoot! BTW, I shoot a 375 H&H quite comfortably, and a 375 Ruger, as well as a Winchester Stainless Stalker 300wm shooting 208gr Amax using H1000 .... I am telling you some of those old savage / stevens Pre-Accu-Trigger were down right Hurtful! Shoot it first, before you buy.

That being said, the accu-trigger era for savage pretty much turned the company around on a dime. I own an Accu-trigger Savage 111 in custom chambered 6.5x55 BJAI and it shoots very well. Even when it was brand new as a 30-06 it shot real nice.

Shoot well,
Gary

 

[edfardos]

Are you always shooting at the same location? My groups open up if the bullet path is close to terrain, it's especially noticeable if I can see a mirrage effect in my scope. If I shoot over a valley/draw, the groups are tighter.

Regarding a Remington700, I have a new one (30-06), and get 3" groups more often than not off a bipod at ~130 yards. My 200 yard shots are soccerball sized. Sure I get 1" groups from time to time, but I can typically guarantee a group within 3" (almost always 2 within one inch, and the third is a couple inches away). I handload hornady 150grain spire points with 57grains of H4350, measured within .1 grains of powder.

Lastly, my accuracy (not consistency) changes a lot with barrel temps (at least that's what I'm assuming. I typically have to give the scope a couple clicks to put the rounds on target each day at the range. Even with good Leopold (4screw) rings, and a bushnell scope.

Keep messing with it,

--edfardos

 

[Ky Larry]

I had a Ruger 77 in .243. It was a very nice rifle with a great piece of wood on it. I bought it new in 1989 and it just wouldn't shoot. It didn't shoot groups, it shot shotgun patterns at 100 yrds. I put in a Timney trigger, a Leupold Vari-X 3-9 scope, Conetrol rings,freefloated the barrel, and had it bedded. I tried dozens of hand loads and factory ammo. It just wouldn't shoot. Traded it for a Remington 700ADL in .30-06 that shot fine. Sometimes you just get a dog. Glad you got your rifle straightened out.

 

[Huckelberry75]

I had a Ruger 77 in .243. It was a very nice rifle with a great piece of wood on it. I bought it new in 1989 and it just wouldn't shoot. It didn't shoot groups, it shot shotgun patterns at 100 yrds. I put in a Timney trigger, a Leupold Vari-X 3-9 scope, Conetrol rings,freefloated the barrel, and had it bedded. I tried dozens of hand loads and factory ammo. It just wouldn't shoot. Traded it for a Remington 700ADL in .30-06 that shot fine. Sometimes you just get a dog. Glad you got your rifle straightened out.

Sounds like a "Monday" gun. Bummer.