Impact of wolf reintroduction

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Whew, the above is another totally one sided view point.
Living horseback distance from the SE corner of Yellowstone I will tell you the planting of non native wolves in the park was a boondoggle foisted on the public by a small special interest group completely uninterested in what the results would be.
The wolves were turned loose on an unlimited all you can eat smorgasborg of easy pickings. Now the population is out of control.
I don't have to go up in the park to see them now, I have them all around me.
The damage they're doing to our various big game species is devastating.
You won't find many people in this region who will agree with your views.
 
Living horseback distance from the SE corner of Yellowstone I will tell you the planting of non native wolves in the park was a boondoggle foisted on the public by a small special interest group completely uninterested in what the results would be.

Of course, the trusty old, "they're not native" default position of the cattlemans association. A lie! Gray wolves are gray wolves, same animal in the rocky mountain west as the those in the great lakes.

But don't let the truth intefere with your conspiracy theory, as we all know, they were all airlifted in by "tree huggers" looking to pacify your children into being hippies.
 
My friend, there is/was no problem in Montana either, or Idaho for that matter. The problems are human generated, with a very very tiny & loud, wealthy, and very very powerful special interest group controlling the dialogue via their proxy control of, rural small town America, and their death grip on congress!

I live dead center in the northern blue hills of northwest Wisconsin, I am in the field almost every single day, tracking, and imaging gray wolves, I'm one of a tiny handful of men who monitors the blue hills packs, and I can tell you in no uncertain terms that what problems do arrise, emerge from highly irresponsible, and entitlement minded agriculturists, who are all heavilly subsidized by "we the people" to ply their trade! Often, fraud is involved, or another species, such as coyotes!

I know farmers that are the most ethical people one could ever hope to meet, men/women who live as I do, dead center of gray wolf range in northwest Wisconsin, and they have never had even a whiff of trouble from these animals. I also know of a fraudster north of Danbury, a man that was bannered by the media as having had the highest rate of gray wolf depredation in the entire nation(90 plus cattle a year), USA-Today ran articles about his misfortune with the evil, murderous gray wolves eating his poor cattle, problem was it was all lies!

But we never hear about that, no, we hear from the so-called "sport hunting media" how evil, and merciless the nasty gray wolf is, how they just kill for fun, and how a granny out west, blew a charging evil wolf away with her trusty .44(another lie recently published in Outdoor Life). I confronted "Skip Knowles" who is the editor of "Predator Nation" about a spectacular bit of hyperbole that appeared in the publications winter/spring issue, he personally penned it, an account in which he wildly declared that he had spoken with a Yellowstone wildlife biologist who had personally witnessed gray wolves kill and eat three mountain lions, in a single day! Don't believe me, look it up, it was published as an editorial by Mr Knowles, he refused to reply to my challenge to name the biologist, this because there wasn't one, he just made it up, and then published it in the magazine, which his readership then ignorantly soaked up as truth. He ended his editorial by demanding that we pursue our "right" to kill the evil gray wolves! Which they have now done.

As a hunter, its very frustrating to say the least, I for one, am sick of this mindset, you could overcome your ignorance by filling your head with "the real scientific data" on the gray wolf in America, how important it is at stopping disease, disease that crosses over, and back and forth between ungulates, but of course, you actually have to take the time to read the data. I promise you, you will come away from it with a new appreciation for this animal, and a very healthy dose of scepticism for the cattlemans associations standard propaganda lines.


Seems like you are quite enamored with the grey wolf. That is fine.

But, don't believe that your thinking is any more pragmatic than those on the other side of the fence.
 
I know that some of the wolves behavior is terrain dependent and there are areas of the country were feral hog and wolf populations live within a few miles of each other - mainly because of differing terrain. But generally speaking feral hogs do not encroach on or traverse wolf territory.

The wolves hunt hogs 24x7, keep the herds moving, reduce breeding and litter size and generally keep the hogs under control.
 
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You won't find many people in this region who will agree with your views.
More hyperbole, how about you cite even one(1)reputable source?

Us locals aren't reputable to some people I guess.
Seen it many times at hearings.
No more from me, I won't reply to a brick wall.
 
Seems like you are quite enamored with the grey wolf. That is fine.

But, don't believe that your thinking is any more pragmatic than those on the other side of the fence.
I am not on one side of the fence or the other, I am squarely seated in the middle, where the truth happens to be. I am enamored with a respect for the truth, and a general fearlessness in confronting lies, and distortions.

All you have going here is emotion my friend, nothing but hyperbolic emoting, cite a single reputable source that substantiates your pre-concieved notions?
 
Us locals aren't reputable to some people I guess.
Seen it many times at hearings.
No more from me, I won't reply to a brick wall.
No, you're sourcing is not reputable, you have none, none at all!
 
Ahh, the "endless loop" point of any good debate. To read the rest of this thread, click on any of the others I linked before. They're all exactly the same.

Or, go read as many pages of scientific, biological/ecological study you can get your hands on and make up your mind for yourself.
 
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