(IN) Cop kills goose that pecked his dog

[Poodleshooter]

Non-migratory geese make excellent "intro to waterfowling" prey. The ones down here on the James mock me all summer, but when the early September season rolls around, my Faststeel BB's get the last honk. Too bad I can't cook them well. Every recipe I try ends up producing goose jerky.
Non-migratory geese seem to have become the larger nastier equivalent of those audacious little park squirrels.

 

[Ol' Badger]

Ok. Here’s what a friend of mine did when geese made a nest in his back yard. At first he let them be and all was well. Then he had to mow the yard and was pecked in the crotch very badly by said geese. He fixed the problem with his Samurai sword that he bought from Cold Steel I think. The worst part was the eggs stayed all summer and I picked them up in the fall and one exploded in my face. I had the worst smelly green **** and it tasted awful.

 

[Bergeron]

Back to the Robocop who started this whole mess...

Did this officer not have any nonfirearms force options available to him? Number one, any dog that gets its butt kicked by a goose is not a dog I want to have serving as a K-9. Number two, considering that the dog was otherwise occupied, and granted, it's probably pretty humiliating to see your dog get pecked by a goose while he's trying to take care of buisness, I would have seen nothing wrong with a whupping of the goose by Mr. Happy Baton, could have still killed the stupid bird, but without using the gun.

I think that this does set a bit of a double standard if nothing happens to the officer. We are rightly told to only deploy our arms to defend ourselves and our loved ones from immediate and grave bodily harm, but this guy can go ahead and blast birds that mess with his dog?

Speaking of the nonfirearm option though, a pepper-sprayed goose would probably be a very funny sight.

 

[CZ-75]

shouldn't a police K-9 pup be capable of tearing a goose up pretty quickly?

I think K-9s are too expensive to let get injured. What if the goose got his eye? That's around $10K or more down the drain.

 

[Bergeron]

That's a pretty well trained dog, not to tear up a bird that's pecking at it.

 

[rebbryan]

it was assault on a police officer, good shootin

don't know about police dogs, but bomb dogs cost at least 30,000 to train

 

[Newt]

I'm with Bergeron on this one. The only things lower than a goose on the food chain is the easter bunny and that timid little mouse down in the basement. A 10K dollar K9 should've torn that thing's head right off it's shoulders.

As far as the shooting goes... I don't think that guy should get just a slap on the wrist for shooting said goose. If I'd been in a rural place with a sidearm on me... I'd have probably blasted it too. I agree with all that said, if it would have been an everyday "Joe" that shot that goose, he would've been in a lot more trouble than that. Surely the cop could've kicked the thing away until he had time to get his dog and go. There's my 2 cents.

 

[45R]

Not to be a jerk about this or anything but I'd like to play devils advocate here.....

I say this respectfully.

Now if it was a person that pecked or punched at a "police officer" would that warrant such force? (Probably not)

If a perp was fleeing the scene and the dog chasing took a punch or kick, is it justified to use deadly force on the perp?

Not too long ago an officer shot a family dog during a felony traffic stop. I am sure that we all remember this. The tiny dog was sent to doggy heavan by the officers 870. Everyone was pissed. I dont understand why everyone here is all for the officer.......

The Goose was protecting his nest.............it wasnt like the dog was in danger...

 

[El Tejon]

The goose wasn't anyone's property. The Southern doggie wasn't a pest like Yankee geese.

 

[45R]

Can someone post a picture of this so called Yankee Goose. I want to see the monster with my own eyes.

 

[firestar]

If the cop felt the need to use his gun on a goose that pecked his wittle-bittle doggie, what do you think he would do to your grandma if she poked his dog with her cane? He would probably think his dog's life was in danger again and blast the old hag.

That cop sound like a bully and a coward. Whatever happend to shewing it away? I live in Indiana and I can honestly say that I have never been in fear for my life or my dog's life from a goose. Yes they are big and surprisingly nasty for a bird but they are mostly show. Cops have WAY too much power and we need to put them back in their place. They are not Gods and they are not supposed to be able to do whatever they feel like doing. This kind of thing happens all the time around here and people are getting sick of the beligerant attitude of these cops. Every couple of months, a cop is suspended with pay for doing things that you or I would go to jail for *without pay).

I don't hate all cops, my friend is a cop and he told me once that he feels that about 80% of cops shouldn't even have their jobs because they have the wrong kind of attitude. How many people here feel safe and relaxed when they see a cop around? Not me, I feel like, oh S$%T, what is he going to try and pull now? I am about as law abiding as they come but I am getting sick of the power game they try and play with you. If you don't kiss their A$$, they will find something to bust you for.

 

[12-34hom]

I don't hate all cops???

Firestar, you need to go to the doc and have him prescribe a large dose of CHILL PILLs.... for your condition.

Serenity now..

12-34hom.

 

[Watchman]

I think I would have whacked its tail with my ASP.

IF that didnt work, an ASP to the head would have killed it.

Nice and quiet like, and nobody had to know....

 

[Kcustom45]

I cannot speak for the cop, but if I had to guess I would say that wasn't actually afraid for the life of his dog or himself. He was probably thinking what a lot of people here said, that the goose is a pest and should be dealt with as such. Did he have to use his gun? Probably not, but maybe that was the only thing he had on him at the time. I have no problems with him shooting the goose as long as it was done safely.

 

[Dash Riprock]

Kcustom45,

I pretty much agree with your analysis of the situation-the cop got PO ed at the goose, and he shot it. I’ve been tempted to do the same thing a bunch of times. The problems that I have are:

1) His story was absolute B.S. No police dog is in danger from goose pecks, unless they are using poodles for K-9's in Hoosier land.

2)It is a violation of Federal law to kill or harm migratory waterfowl unless you have the proper permit.

I get so sick and tired of cops getting a free pass for violating laws that the rest of us have to obey. I really do hope the Feds take an interest in this case and make this officer’s life miserable.

 

[El Rojo]

What law did he break? I get tired of hearing the same old crowd around here. Something like this happens and we hear, "I hope they throw him in supermax for 20 years because it isn't fair for him to not get in trouble when I know I would have had to pay a fine and probably would have gotten some community service." How do you know? This is a big hypothetical. First, we don't know the location. 2nd, you don't know what kind of K-9 it was. Third, it was a damn goose! Instead of everyone rallying around common sense and saying, "Hey, if pesky geese get wild and attack, people ought to have the right to put them down as long as it is done in a safe manner." Instead, the anti-cop crowd goes on their usual kick about federal prosecution and the "unfairness" of the system. Deal with it. Then we get to hear outlandish accusations like, "if he would do this to a goose he might do it to grandma." Yeah, that means all firearms owners have the potential to kill grandma doesn't it? I have shot squirrels before. For no other reason than they are squirrels and I like shooting them. Could you imagine what would happen if one of them pissed me off? I would probably shoot him twice! Imagine the lethal potential I would have if my boss pissed me off eh? Some people disgust me.

Treat this just as it is, a goose got crazy and he died. No one else was injured. Because it was a cop, quite a few of you get pissed off about it. Had it been a civilian, instead of calling for the gallows, you would have protested the system that would prosecute a man for killing a goose. Talk about double standards and hypocricy. Instead of fighting for what is simply right, the anti-cop crowd fights simply for what is anti-LEO.

 

[CZ-75]

California has got you trained right.

Cop uses force = Good.

Civilian uses force = Bad.

 

[Feanaro]

Wasn't too polite of that officer. The goose was only protectings it's nest and I've never heard of a goose killing a dog or a human. Someone is a bit too trigger happy.

But I don't really care. I just don't think it was, in the words of Bush Sen., prudent. If it was illegal he should be jailed though. I don't think we should place the police above regular citizens.

 

[4v50 Gary]

Jim, love your Mikey the Ferret story and BTW, do you have some sort of harness for him? Someday I'd like to have one but right now plastic plants are the only thing I can keep alive in my house.

 

[redneck]

Rather than punish the cop...

Why not just let this set precedent? Geese have become a pest animal. The majority of folks don't think they're good to eat, so considering them a game animal and having a legal season with permits and all isn't doing a bit of good to manage the population.

The state has a whole list of pest animals (racoon, coyote,possum, ground hog, fox etc. ) that I'm allowed to destroy if they are causing damage/disturbance on my property. And it doesn't require a depredation permit either. So why not go the same route with geese? Its just a huge load of BS.

I say, let the cop off. And just let the rest of us take care of our own problems too.
Sure it probably wasn't legal to discharge a firearm where he was, and it sure wasn't legal to kill a migratory game bird out of season, without a permit, and using a handgun rather than a shotgun.
I want the same rights he has though, so rather than rant about tying his hands behind his back, why not just leave him be and give the rest of us the same freedom ?

 

[El Rojo]

CZ-75, who are you talking to when you said that "California has got you trained right."? I am pretty sure you weren't talking to me because I said just the opposite. I said let us all have the right to shoot a goose. And if I was "properly" trained like the person you were referring to, I wouldn't have a CCW permit or have a Glock 27 on my hip right now. So I am 99% sure you weren't referring to me. So who were you referring to?

 

[billybaus]

seems to me he was going for humorous sarcasm....

 

[billybaus]

and that its not so much as an anti cop bias, but a "cops arent above the law" thing, IMO.

 

[Soap]

What is everyone getting so fired up for? A man shot a goose that attacked his dog. If this happened in my backyard I would have done the same. I don't want a blind doggie. As long as he was safe about it, good for him.

 

[Kcustom45]

unless they are using poodles for K-9's in Hoosier land.

YOU TAKE THAT BACK!
I don't know how easy it would be for a goose to actually get to a dogs in a fight, but I imagine it could be very bad for the dog to be pecked in the eye.
As far as the other statement about killing migratory waterfowl you are right. I don't see why because the geese around here don't really migrate, but it is still the law not to kill or harm out of season without a permit. At least it is here in Indiana.