Red Tornado
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That's a sure sign of a future cosmoline addiction. You'll be joining milsurps anonymous in a few years. Don't try to fight it, just join the crowd. It's where all the hip kids are.
RT
In order to fit in, do I need a Mosin-Nagant?
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That's a sure sign of a future cosmoline addiction. You'll be joining milsurps anonymous in a few years. Don't try to fight it, just join the crowd. It's where all the hip kids are.
RT
That funny smell you kinda like is COSMOLINE, be very careful with this stuff.
It is highly addictive, once you start down the mil-surp path it is almost impossible to stop. If you don't find the MN loveable try a lee-enfield SMLE.
No. 1 Mk3's and No. 4 Mk2's are still available cheap, the ammo costs a bit,
but watch "Lawrence of Arabia" and enjoy the British Empires contribution to 20th century politics....My No.4 Mk2 has a trigger very much like my Springfield M1A-NM.
It is highly addictive
, once you start down the mil-surp path it is almost impossible to stop. If you don't find the MN loveable try a lee-enfield SMLE.No. 1 Mk3's and No. 4 Mk2's are still available cheap, the ammo costs a bit,
but watch "Lawrence of Arabia" and enjoy the British Empires contribution to 20th century politics....My No.4 Mk2 has a trigger very much like my Springfield M1A-NM.
cosmoline is like Milsurp pheramones, it gets us all excited in the pants.... were we keep our wallets. wierdos. 
some people find cosmo to be disgusting, personaly i have no problem sticking my hand into a blog of cosmo in the hopes of finding the gun i think is under it all
some people find cosmo to be disgusting, personaly i have no problem sticking my hand into a blog of cosmo in the hopes of finding the gun i think is under it all
Davo
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Get one or the girls wont talk to you.
If for nothing else, it is neat owning a piece of history like that for under $100. I bought one just because a while back and now I own three. If you are a collector and not just a shooter(whatever that means) then you should get it. You'll enjoy it over time even if you dont lust for it right now.
U.S.SFC_RET
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Just like Cosmoline Quoted:[QUOTESome people love them, others hate them. But like anything you never know till you've tried. Remember it's not a Mauser and nothing like a Remchester. You have to approach it on its own terms.
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On It's own terms is right. Mosin Nagants are a different world. Asking about getting a M N is like asking about wine, there are many types. If you want a Mosin Nagant I suggest you go quality. Finn reworked Mosins are considered to be in its own league in the M N world. Rebarreled and restocked these shoot very nice.
Some Mosins are alot cheaper and come with problems. Sticking bolts and accuracy.
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On It's own terms is right. Mosin Nagants are a different world. Asking about getting a M N is like asking about wine, there are many types. If you want a Mosin Nagant I suggest you go quality. Finn reworked Mosins are considered to be in its own league in the M N world. Rebarreled and restocked these shoot very nice.
Some Mosins are alot cheaper and come with problems. Sticking bolts and accuracy.
drummerwookie
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is mine acceptable to all your standards?..lol
its funny, when my friend showed me his Mosin b4 i got mine, it took me forever just to remember what it was called...lol...i had never heard of it b4...and so i get one the next week, bc whe i saw his i fell in love with that gun for some reason. so i bought one with the laminated stock, and then i get on here, and damn near everybody has one...lol
by the way, i only paid 79 bucks for mine
its funny, when my friend showed me his Mosin b4 i got mine, it took me forever just to remember what it was called...lol...i had never heard of it b4...and so i get one the next week, bc whe i saw his i fell in love with that gun for some reason. so i bought one with the laminated stock, and then i get on here, and damn near everybody has one...lol
by the way, i only paid 79 bucks for mine
AmbulanceDriver
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There are few things better than going to a range with a M-N carbine and after firing the first round hearing a chorus of "WHAT THE @$)* WAS THAT???"
When the muzzle blast is LONGER than the firearm, that's impressive, ESPECIALLY at night.
M-N are an incredibly fun, relatively inexpensive way to convert money to noise. They're as accurate as you can expect a 60+ year old battle rifle to be, with a few that are surprisingly accurate.
All that being said, I love my M38, and I'm really looking at a 91/30
When the muzzle blast is LONGER than the firearm, that's impressive, ESPECIALLY at night.
M-N are an incredibly fun, relatively inexpensive way to convert money to noise. They're as accurate as you can expect a 60+ year old battle rifle to be, with a few that are surprisingly accurate.
All that being said, I love my M38, and I'm really looking at a 91/30
drummerwookie
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this may be a dumb question, but the M38, M44, does that just mean the year?...like an M38 was made in 1938 and my M44 was made in 1944 (which that i know my M44 was made in 1944, but just wondering if its coincidence)
Well, I went through a "milsurp phase", and accumulated quite a variety of different milsurps, including several MNs. If it tells you anything, I eventually sold all but one (just so could say I still had one in my collection. Haven't fired it in 3-4 years. IMHO, too many "better" milsurps (Mauser, Enfield, SKS, etc.) out there.
davera
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I guess you do need a Mosin in a complete collection. Personally, I haven't warmed up to them yet (a friend has a 91 and a 38) but they are on my milsurp list but after a few I like better.
telomerase
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Yes, it's a coincidence (although it does mean the MODEL year). Read this:
http://www.mosinnagant.net/
...although be aware, the mosin-nagant is a conspiracy to disarm Americans by filling their closets with antique, inaccurate, noisy Communist rifles with headspace issues. (Hey, where's the tinfoil hat icon?)
rangerruck
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38's are the shorty tanker type models, while the 44 is also short, it has the pigsticker on the front.
Cacique500
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They key is to buy two.
I bought a breeding pair of M39's and left them in my dark safe under carefully controlled temperature and humidity.
I let them sit for about 3 months and when I next opened the safe there were 14 of them in there!!
I bought a breeding pair of M39's and left them in my dark safe under carefully controlled temperature and humidity.
I let them sit for about 3 months and when I next opened the safe there were 14 of them in there!!
So the 1891/30 doesn't have the huge muzzle blast? THe M38 or M44 do, because they're shorter?
I haven't shot anything larger than 30-30 in 20 years. As long as I can hit the paper at 50 yards, I'm not too worried, I'm not trying to go all olympic marksman with this thing...
If it was between a 91/30 and an SKS, which would you pick? The SKS with the tennis ball grenade launcher looks kind of fun.
I haven't shot anything larger than 30-30 in 20 years. As long as I can hit the paper at 50 yards, I'm not too worried, I'm not trying to go all olympic marksman with this thing...
If it was between a 91/30 and an SKS, which would you pick? The SKS with the tennis ball grenade launcher looks kind of fun.
dispatch55126
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MN's are like that ugly baby "those" other people have. If you don't own one, they're ugly and stinky. Once you have your first, you'll want more.
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Ok i'm sold
I was going to buy $100-150 dollars worth of ammo and other stuff at the fun show later thi smonth, but I am now going to buy a 91/30 MN and some ammo. I'm a history kinda guy and I have seen "Enemy at the gates" at least a hundred times. I cant wait for some shoulder bruising
This will be my first bolt action rifle ever!
I was going to buy $100-150 dollars worth of ammo and other stuff at the fun show later thi smonth, but I am now going to buy a 91/30 MN and some ammo. I'm a history kinda guy and I have seen "Enemy at the gates" at least a hundred times. I cant wait for some shoulder bruising
This will be my first bolt action rifle ever!
150$ is still a rifle an 440 rounds of ammo, with room to spare. the bruises wont be bad so long as you dont approach it like a remchestmauser. dont blade your body toward the target. stand squared up to the target and it shouldnt be bad
differant animals, id advise getting one of each. soem days you feel like launching tennis balls. others you want to launch 182gr rounds.
Think of the Mosin like a woman and you'll appreciate it more.
- It's not pretty and doesn't even try, so its about as low maintenance as it gets.
- It likes it rough, when you get done playing with your Mosin you'll be sore - but you won't be able to wipe the smile off your face.
- It likes it dirty; mud, rain, snow, sand - you name it the Mosin has done it there.
- Like a girl who would rather drink cheap beer and whiskey, a Mosin is perfectly happy with dirty surplus ammo.
- It's not pretty and doesn't even try, so its about as low maintenance as it gets.
- It likes it rough, when you get done playing with your Mosin you'll be sore - but you won't be able to wipe the smile off your face.
- It likes it dirty; mud, rain, snow, sand - you name it the Mosin has done it there.
- Like a girl who would rather drink cheap beer and whiskey, a Mosin is perfectly happy with dirty surplus ammo.
CajunBass
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I don't have one. YET.
But it's the next thing on my list.
But it's the next thing on my list.
MilsurpShooter
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http://www.7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinHumor.htm
You don't necessarily need one, but they're good to have as a fun gun. Most of the ones I've seen at least put on paper at 100 yards, cheap to feed, plus, where else can you get a rifle that's probably seen action in WWII for under $100?
Personally, when I got into shooting and the WWII era things, I didn't much look at the Mosins. But slowly as I went to the gun store, as I saw them more and more, and I saw the prices... I figured what the heck. I own two now. A forcematched 91/30, Tula Hex from 1936. And an all Matching 1926 Izhevsk with PU Scope arrangement.
You don't necessarily need one, but they're good to have as a fun gun. Most of the ones I've seen at least put on paper at 100 yards, cheap to feed, plus, where else can you get a rifle that's probably seen action in WWII for under $100?
Personally, when I got into shooting and the WWII era things, I didn't much look at the Mosins. But slowly as I went to the gun store, as I saw them more and more, and I saw the prices... I figured what the heck. I own two now. A forcematched 91/30, Tula Hex from 1936. And an all Matching 1926 Izhevsk with PU Scope arrangement.
You don't need a Mosin to fit in. But if you get one you'll fit in with more people more easily than without.
Inexpensive, easily accuratized, fairly good to excellent shooters, and plenty powerful. The problem is most people make their assumptions about Mosins as though it's a retarded hick cousin of a Mauser 98 or that american target rifle thingy.
Never mind it's design is almost a decade older, and it stayed in frontline service twice as long in conditions far worse.
At the very worst, a Mosin is like a single-barrel shotgun. A cheap, reliable, and effective tool. But if you like it, it's as fine a historically-significant service rifle as anything else.
Inexpensive, easily accuratized, fairly good to excellent shooters, and plenty powerful. The problem is most people make their assumptions about Mosins as though it's a retarded hick cousin of a Mauser 98 or that american target rifle thingy.
Never mind it's design is almost a decade older, and it stayed in frontline service twice as long in conditions far worse.
At the very worst, a Mosin is like a single-barrel shotgun. A cheap, reliable, and effective tool. But if you like it, it's as fine a historically-significant service rifle as anything else.
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