In the market for a new firearm...

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...but too indecisive at the moment.

It's really a matter of options, there are a few things I'm considering:

-USP 9mm (in THR's own trading post)
- S&W .357 (Model 66)
-some brand of AR-15 (Bushy, Stag, or LMT)
-AK-47

Part of me wants the USP for another CCW piece, but I'm more than aware that I need a reasonable SHTF-type weapon (don't we all?). The price of .223/5.56 concerns me a lot, and makes me hesitate to grab an AR, yet they're so much more customizable than the AKs.

So I suppose my question for you, THR, is which would you buy?
 
If you want a SHTF weapon, an AR is the best choice on your list, the AK a close second. But SHTF might means something different to me than to you.
 
Go with either the AK or the AR-15 both will be much harder to find in future years. Besides the fact that HK hates you they make good pistols but they will be around forever.
 
To me, SHTF is breakdown of society/martial law/invasion or some other scenario where a rifle is desired for self-defense, defense of others, and hunting for food (in conditions where the rifle couldn't be detail cleaned very often).

That said, I've heard of issues with the AR being fussy about dirt, but then my old man carried one in the jungles of Vietnam, so I dunno.
 
Trust your inner shooter: Go to gun store, buy what feels right at the time. Works for me. Have been to gun stores with intent to purchase "A," or maybe "B" have left store with "C," "D," "M," "X," still have no "A." Have been very satisfied with purchases, but still want "A" and "B." :)

James
 
Get the AR just incase there is a AWB in the future. Others you mention will still be available.
 
glockman19 Get the AR just in case there is a AWB in the future. Others you mention will still be available.

Using that logic the AK would be a better choice, importation is more likely to get banned first thus eliminating adding more to the market. A sweeping AWB would nix both anyway. Not meant as a thread highjack just a note.

Also I meant to add this in my prior post there is quite a price difference between your selections

AR- 800 to about 1200 for something standard
AK- 350-700 from what I can see online
HK USP 9- 500-700
Model 66- 300-500

I know those ranges are not perfect but hey for the prices why not try and find a USP or Model 66 and an AK that should be about the same price as an AR.
 
Thanks for all the input, guys. You've definitely swayed me toward the direction of another rifle.

That said, with a decently larged budget in mind - would an AR15 or an SA M1A SOCOM be a better option (for defense, hunting, either)?
 
(for defense, hunting, either)?

Check your local laws. In VA, where I live, you cannot hunt with .223/5.56. Well, you can't hunt anything that you want to eat (I think you can shoot nuisence species with it).
 
Depends on what you're going to be hunting and how you're going to be defending yourself.

An AR might not be the greatest idea for big deer. An M1A might not be the greatest idea for a nightstand gun.

Personally, I'd go for an AK and the Model 66. You can spend the extra money customizing the AK as you see fit - the AR is much more modular, it's true, but there's plenty available for the AK too if you want to tacticool it up:

sexywasr-10.jpg
 
Part of me wants the USP for another CCW piece

If you only have one ccw piece, then I would say go with another one in case your primary goes down.

If you have more than one ccw, then I would go with the AR...
 
romma said:
Tactical Ninja, that is by far the coolest AK I have ever seen!

Yeah, me too, that's why I saved it to disk :) It's not mine - another THR member posted it here a while ago. Couldn't tell ya who.

Also from the "That's Just Badass" file:

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I'm tempted to do that with a 91/30 sometime just to freak people out. :D
 
I bought my USP before my AR. It seems like you've decided to go with the AR, I think if I did it over again, that would have been one of my first guns.
 
Well, I already own a USP in .45, which is my secondary CCW piece (primary is XD .45).

Honestly, at this point, it looks like it's between the AK, or some other battle rifle that has a caliber starting with a '3'. The SOCOM is an attractive, albeit expensive, option. I don't like the lack of a pistol grip, but that can be modified with a stock change.

Then there's the AK. I have a friend willing to part with his Arsenal SAM7, and I could take it and change the stock to something collapsible, like the Magpul CTR.

Then of course there's the FAL...
 
can anyone tell me where the rail located on the slr106fr ?
and is that the only difference between the slr106f and fr model?
 
I'm in the same situation for the next purchase... just can't make up the mind, it's getting harder to "control the population" and make resonable purchases, trying not to get too carried away, because I'd love to just walk into the store and buy about $40k worth of guns, although my wife might toss the toster in the bath tub soon after.

I want a Remmy 700 or an AR style .308 or a M14/DMR, liveing in CA isn't my limitation, it's getting back home to make the rifle purchase, cause I'm not one to nueter a "sport utility rifle" commonly called an assult rifle by the not-so-inteligent gun banners. The Bolt Gun, just seems like it would be a safe queen unless I painted it, cause it can't go to work in stock configureation, and then there's the cost of glass, the AR .308 would be great, but the M14/DMR would also need the glass latter on.

For Pistols I'm really wanting a stainless 9mm commander sized 1911, I already have 4-1911's but I had 5 and I'm really thinking I should have one for each finger + my thumb, but I'm also thinking about a stubby revolver .357, I'm also considering getting rid of my XD-40 for a XD-9 or just buy a XD-9

Then there's the shotgun issue, I sold my 20ga, now I can't decide weather I want to go with a decent double barrel 12ga or an older Browning A5 or a Remmy 870 12ga with a 18" barrel & an AR stock.

Really out there but kind of crazy; I'd love to go get a Barret M82 or M107 50 BMG, just to imagine the shock on the CA DOJ peoples faces when I sent in the registration paper work... out of state military, qualified weapons instructor, weapon to be used for training purposes ;)

As far as a SHTF goes, an AR would be your best choice, the AK is a close second. The US Military is on 5.56mm or .223, there isn't much difference, they'll both chamber, if the USA ever came to that point there'd be plenty of 5.56mm NATO around. AR's and M16's are easy, break them in with 1000 rounds, keep a light coat of lube on the bolt carrier, keep the ejection port cover closed when not in use and keep a magazine in it. "Any Good" combat savvy Marine or Soldier will tell you, the weapon stays cleaner when it has a mag in it. The stories about AK's and mud, sand, dust and grease is all a bunch of noise, they jam up too when dirty, they just have a little higher thresh hold for grime than an AR/M16 have. AR mags and accesories are dirt cheap, they're modular to just about anything, ammo prices aren't that bad, but two shots are a "standard response" with 5.56mm, a good AR will reach out past 600 meters, try that with a 7.62x39.

I'm begining to think the best SHTF rifle would be an AR in .308, .308 is the same as NATO 7.62x51, which is the chambering of most US Sniper rifles and the M60 and M240G & B, it packs alot of knock down at close range, can reach out to longer ranges, and could be a 16" carbine rifle with a collapsable stock, down side is that mags are expensive and ammo isn't the cheapest.
 
I'm begining to think the best SHTF rifle would be an AR in .308, .308 is the same as NATO 7.62x51, which is the chambering of most US Sniper rifles and the M60 and M240G & B, it packs alot of knock down at close range, can reach out to longer ranges, and could be a 16" carbine rifle with a collapsable stock, down side is that mags are expensive and ammo isn't the cheapest.


That's roughly the conclusion I've come to - which led me to the SA SOCOM II. Rails (modular), .308, decently short barrel, etc.

My dad is a fan of the 5.56, as it's what he killed large numbers of VC with in Vietnam. Talking to him today, though, he said he wished looking back on it they'd been issued something in a .308

Still up in the air...the SOCOM is expensive enough I'll actually have to save up cash for it, plus the cost of the modified stock; but the AR/AK option would bring instant gratification.
 
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