Incredible Traffic Stop

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wyocarp

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After reading about a lot of traffic stops and how people react differently when stopped while carrying, I feel I had an incredible experience last night.

I had just left Rock Springs, Wyoming late last night when I was stopped by a Highway Patrolman. He felt I had drove over the line a couple of times and that I had driven through the construction zone a little slow and was checking to see if I was drinking.

Because I have had my share of problems with officers, I wasn't extremely polite when he came up to my window, with me feeling like there was no reason for him to be pulling me over.

My family had been bear hunting the previous weekend so I had a lot of guns in the truck between rifles and pistols. I had three in plain sight in the front of the truck and one on my hip. He right away saw a snubbie 460 with the bright yellow stock grip on the floor by my right foot and asked me if I had other guns in the vehicle. I replied, "Oh yes." By that time I think he was beginning to see more. I even had to get my wallet out of my right rear pocket which was right next to the .45 on my hip. He took my license, registration, and insurance card back to his car and never said another word about my guns.

Some have mentioned having had the patrolman take their weapons during the duration of the stop. I've heard of having the person come back to the patrolman's car during the stop while leaving the guns up in the vehicle. I've even heard of them requesting that the gun be unloaded during the stop.

Of course this guy would have had to make numerous trips to confiscate my weapons, but he said absolutely nothing. I was so shocked that I had to ask him about it when he came back up with my license. Of course at that time, he knew that I had a permit because he it came up that I had one when he ran my license. He said he figured that if I hadn't already shot him that he would be fine.

He smiled the entire time. He was professional in his actions and comments. And he gave me a completely new impression of patrolmen. But most of all, after reading threads on here and other places, I was shocked at how relaxed he was after seeing a lot of weapons. One of his comments when I asked him about it was, "Well, this is Wyoming."
 
Driving slowly and crossing over lines are two of the most common indicators that someone is dui.
 
Driving slowly and crossing over lines are two of the most common indicators that someone is dui.

I understand, but in a construction zone that's sort of what you are SUPPOSED to do.

If driving slow when there are signs everywhere saying "DRIVE SLOW!!" is probable cause then it's pretty much open season.
 
I've heard of having the person come back to the patrolman's car during the stop while leaving the guns up in the vehicle. I've even heard of them requesting that the gun be unloaded during the stop.

I've had both of those happen to me, in addition to having LEOs who were completely comfortable with a citizen being armed. Sounds like your encounter was very professional and the patrolmen was cool headed. It's a reminder that just like any other demographic, cops come in all types, and most are fine human beings.
 
Well, it was one of those areas where the temporary concrete dividers were in my lane which makes the lane very narrow and one has to really pay attention while driving large trucks (F-350) or straddle the rumble strips. I drove in the lane while only driving about 55 mph instead of the posted 65 mph. He did write me a warning. I don't think I was driving that badly. I told him that I was watching him a little since he and I were the only two on the road at the time and and he was driving fairly close behind me.
 
Most of my "highway time," I'm towing a trailer that's wider than my van... So I'm looking out the window to see where the right wheel is, and I figure I'll get to my destination eventually, so I figure the speed limits in work zones are the actual limits...

Plus I'm generally carrying enough crap to get a Homeland Security Alert called out for the region, and to make the news...

NEVER been pulled over for going too slow.
 
No, this can't be! It is supposed to be the wild, wild west where shoot-outs happen every day!:D

It seems that everyone's CWP (or CCW or CHL or...) is attached to their DL or vehicle registration. I understand their thinking (of letting the LEO know about the gun), but I have to wonder just who else has access to the permit holders database. Also, do they know if they have multiple permits, since most non-res permits require a home state permit?
 
Sounds about like normal procedure in Wyoming.

I was a WHP many years ago. I was in the training Div for years and trained recruits.

Most of the guys I trained are now in command positions or retired..

If it sounds like I'm braggin' a bit.. Darned right I am. I am proud of what the WHP has become.
They have no monetary reason to write tickets.. The fines collected go into the State Education funds.

Of course time and traffic has changed in the last 40 years, but I can remember maybe writing 35 warnings and maybe one ticket in a week.

I was in the Cheyenne HQ yesterday trying to identify the old timers in a bunch of photos they have.

Things haven't changed much in attitude since I was there.
They are a good bunch of guys and gals if you give them a chance.
Their only agenda is getting you across the state smoothly and safely.

It's easier for you and them that way.
 
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I had a Chicago cop stop me once on the Skyway. I live in Indiana and they like to pick on Hoosiers at stops because they typically know we'll have something in our truck/Jeep that we should according to Chicago law.

I was in my Jeep and on the dash sat a box of 9mm handgun ammo. I wasn't even thinking about it (our gun laws are FAR less strict than Illinois and especially Chicago which has a complete ban on handguns).

He came up to my passenger side and told me he had stopped me for speeding. I noticed his eyes go right to the box of ammo, then to me. I thought, "crap here we go... out of the car".

He just paused and then went back to his car to run my license. I know his seeing the ammo on the dash was probable cause most likely and they just love to pinch Indiana CCW folks who accidentally cross state lines while armed... but he came back, game me my ticket and never said another word.

I was pleasantly surprised.
 
Now you done it! I gotta go to Wyoming or Montana, common sense has returned! Don't get me started on D.C.
 
I would guess the Hwy patrol officer was still on a fishing trip. Just not one mandated for revenue growth through tickets and arrests that result in probation.
Bored behind a slower vehicle so he is checking you out. I would much rather be stopped like that than for someone working for numbers.
 
Fishing for violations.

In Wyoming, driver fatigue and plain old boredom are major contributors to accidents on our highways.

Wyocarp was wobbling a little bit late at night, so that trooper stopping him to see if he was intoxicated or maybe just dozing off at the wheel wasn't a bad effort.

One way or the other, that trooper woke ol Wyocarp up!!:eek::D

Beats the heck out of picking him up out of the ditch down the road.:(
 
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