Traffic Stop

[budlight2256]

I got stopped about a month ago and thought I would tell about it. I had just got off work and it was hot as H@ll in my car. Anyway I pull out on to the highway and give the car some gas. I fell it start to break traction so I put in second and let off the clutch and of course it barks the tires. (04 mustang ) I forgot traction control was off. I then acc. to the speed limit and put it in 5th and drive on. My girl lives about 3 miles down the road and as i was stopping in her drive way I her sirens. So I have the door open and I'm standing waiting to see what is going on. I see the Police Explorer pull in right be hind me. I realize he doesn't have his window down so I waiting to tell him that I have a CCW. As soon has he steps out of the car, of course hand near pistol says sit down in the car. I did but with my legs and hands clearly in view. Of course I was very nervous due to the fact I have never been pulled over before. I said " I need to tell you something" he said turn around it the car and face the front. " I once again said " I need to tell you something". he said "what is their a weapon the the car?" I replied "yes sir and I have a CCW permit" about the time I said yes sir, he said step out of the car put your hands behind your back. He handcuffed me for mine and his safety, or so he said. and put me in the front of the car while. I told him where the gun was located. He placed it on the spoiler of the car slide locked back and magazine beside it. ( there was a some talk while walking to the car about why I was speeding though I wasn't I will get to that. Since he though I was trying to run away from him he called backup) When backup arrived one of the officers asked was I trying to get away I was like no sir I never even saw him. Another one asked if I had a permit I said "yes sir". As they approached the car to talk with the officer that "pulled me". One picked up the gun and started "playing with it". yes the gun was safe he was just racking the slide back and forth and looking at it, which there was no need for. Ok, well after all was said and done he unhand cuffed me told me my gun was in the seat and the bullets where on the floor. I said ok. I looked and of course the magazine was unloaded bullets on the floor and the gun with the slide locked back. He just failed to look where he got the gun because there was a extra magazine fulled loaded on well. I was thinking about writing them and telling them to be more careful because there are some crazy people out there, but I'm still mad over the ticket lol. He got me for careless and reckless. and going 90mph. Though he stated that " It took him 90+" to catch me. and he was never behind me, nor did my radar ever go off. On top of that he told my girl's dad that he was writing a ticket in the parking lot when I was pulling out. Anyway I was just wondering if any of yall members have ran into anything like that with a CCW. Thanks sorry for the long post.

 

[Treo]

Officer are you detaining me or am I free to go?

 

[cassandrasdaddy]

lawyer will make the ticket go away. not chirping tires will keep you from getting more

 

[ZeSpectre]

Paragraphs folks, use paragraphs. It makes things so much easier to read!

Officer are you detaining me or am I free to go?

+1 Although I don't think there was much of a question there after you were wearing handcuffs.

When dealing with the cops you answer yes/no when necessary and keep your mouth shut about the rest.

If you feel something unjust happened you take names and badge numbers and you address it to a superior LATER. Never EVER argue with a cop on location.

 

[Mannlicher]

reminds me of a bumper sticker:

Cop talking to a young guy, saying "Son, I'm gonna kick your butt, and get away with it"

 

[ProficientRifleman]

Take this to court and get it dismissed and get an apology.

Write to the Chief of Police in that town and explain exactly what transpired. If the Chief is worth his salt he'll reign this officer in. If he isn't then all you have wasted is five minutes, a sheet of paper, and a stamp.

 

[UhKlem]

I think it is always best to mention the CCW permit first. Then ask how the officer would like to deal with your sidearm that is located <location>. Referring to guns or weapons often triggers a conditioned negative response, since that is how they refer to bad guy's hardware.

As for your complaint, have your lawyer mention that officers who needlessly handle unfamiliar firearms in public create a safety hazard to both officers and the public. If enough of these complaints are filed over time it establishes a base of evidence for legal action against negligent policy administration if a ND injury should occur at some point in the future.

 

[357WheelGun]

Anyway I pull out on to the highway and give the car some gas. I fell it start to break traction so I put in second and let off the clutch and of course it barks the tires. (04 mustang ) I forgot traction control was off.

There's more to this than just that because even a Mustang (and I know this, I had an '06 GT with the 5-speed) won't break the tires loose on dry pavement unless you're getting on it in ways that are inappropriate for public roads.

If you start to break traction, you need to lift throttle or feather the clutch, not upshift and dump the clutch. You just don't bark the tires unless you're side-stepping the clutch pedal.

As for how you were treated, I'd say that everything aside from the officer handling your firearm seems about right. There definitely should be a complaint filed regarding the officer who played with your firearm, as others have pointed out, that's a safety risk, or at least should be presented as such.

 

[AirForceShooter]

That's a LEO that needs some remedial training.

AFS

 

[230RN]

Speaking of location, where are you? (State, at least, please.) Age would also be helpful, and mode of dress, although theoretically, this should make no difference.

I'm neutral on the handcuffing thing.

I'm not neutral on the "playing with the gun" thing. If the slide is locked back, I see no need for extra handling, except to check the S/N. (Which I sorta object to as a pre-assumption of guilt, even though it's probably standard procedure.)

To be picayune about it, I also object to placing the gun on the car. You may have spent Bucks Beaucoup on a paint job, and parking a gun on the finish is about like resting a wrench or hammer or pop can on the paint. Gr. Picky point, but something which bugs me.

Oh, yes. Paragraphs. Please.

 

[mr.72]

Wonder why this doesn't happen to me, or most of us, most of the time?

 

[budlight2256]

Im located in NC, the LEO in question was around 24. I want to thank all of you for your responses.

 

[KelVarnson]

For future reference, if you get pulled over again, stay in the car, and don't open the door. Shut the engine off. roll the window down, turn on the dome light if it is dark, and put both of your hands on the top of the steering wheel.

Maybe have your license and registration ready, if you don't have to make a reaching motion to get it. Otherwise, wait until the cop asks for it, and then tell him you are going to retrieve your license from your pocket, or your registration from your glove box.

Advise him about your CCW, if you are required to do so by law.

This is all just common courtesy. It's not about trying to look like a boy scout. These guys don't know what they're rolling up on when they pull you over. If you do these things, the chances of a favorable outcome go up significantly.

 

[Thernlund]

There's more to this than just that because even a Mustang (and I know this, I had an '06 GT with the 5-speed) won't break the tires loose on dry pavement unless you're getting on it in ways that are inappropriate for public roads.

I disagree. I had an '05 GT 5-speed myself. I could break the tries from the pavement at 50 (drop to 3rd, wind it out to redline, and let that clutch go hard).

From a stopped position, very easy to bark the tires if you're inadvertently a bit quick on the clutch.

To the OP... as soon as he wanted to handcuff me I'd have ask if I was under arrest. I don't go in for that "for his safety" stuff.

Otherwise, I wouldn't speak unless spoken to, period.


-T.

 

[SapperMapper]

I was pulled over in Copperas Cove while carrying. Fully camoed, I was on my way to my Uncle's property last year to do some deer hunting. The rifle was unloaded, in a case in the backseat. Had my .40 on my hip, and I guess I was a little too eager to get to the stand, as I got popped for doing 50 in a 35 where US-190 transitions from a divided highway to a 4-lane city street.

When the LEO approached the truck I had the window down, seatbelt on, registration in hand, but I had forgotten to put my new insurance card in the glovebox. First thing I informed him was, "I have a concealed weapon." 'Where is it, sir?' "On my right hip." He had me step out of the car, disarmed me, cleared it, and handed me the magazine + 1 round. Never handcuffed me, and in fact was very relaxed and professional about it.

I did receive a ticket for failure to show proof of insurance, and once all was said and done he handed me the pistol, slide locked back, wished me good luck and sent me on my way. I went to City Hall and showed proof which wiped out the ticket.

I'm glad your LEO wasn't the one to pull me over.