Inland M1 Carbine extractor jumps ship

[1KPerDay]

I was shooting my son's Inland trying to diagnose intermittent FTE or FTF issues, trying to narrow down bad mags, etc. This session 15 rounds of Herter's Select brass cased out of a 30-round Korean mag fed flawlessly, then about 10 rounds of my reloads (14.4 grains W296 under IMI 110gr SP) and got a failure to extract/jam. I tried to clear it, but looked and noticed the springs and guts of the bolt were hanging out in the breeze and the extractor was MIA.

Had to disassemble the rifle to knock the empty out with a cleaning rod, and for some reason the bolt wouldn't rotate into battery. Couldn't figure it out. Is it the firing pin caught on the hammer? no... still won't close.

Looked in the left op rod track and saw what I thought was a ball of grease, but eventually figured out it was the extractor plunger. LOL

Fished it out and bolt closed fine. Got it apart but after 20 minutes of looking, private indoor range, I couldn't find the extractor. It's like it evaporated.

 

[HOWARD J]

Looks like time for a new bolt.
Gun Parts Corp has them----they are expensive------------

 

[eastbank]

pm me your address and i,ll send you a new extractor. eastbank.

 

[rcmodel]

Picture of the case you had to knock out please.

It sounds like you had a pressure problem, the primer or case head failed, and it blew the extractor out of the bolt.

Look at the case head & primer carefully for signs of over-pressure damage.

rc

 

[1KPerDay]

Thanks eastbank!! RC I looked at the case and it looked okay. I'll see if I can snap a pic.

 

[1KPerDay]

Looks like time for a new bolt.

Why a new bolt?

 

[Catpop]

Looks like Eastbank has you covered. Try a rolling floor magnet (the kind roofers use when they finish up a house shingle job) at the private range. You'll get lots of scrap steel and just maybe an M1 carbine extractor-----if you're lucky.

 

[lemaymiami]

And if you don't find the assistance you need -go to these two sites that are dedicated to that war baby (and it's care and maintenance/repair...).
http://forums.thecmp.org/forumdisplay.php?f=6
http://m1carbineforum.forumco.com/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=21

At present I'm trying to learn a bit about them myself.... Good luck and post up whatever the solution is....

 

[1KPerDay]

Thanks!

 

[1KPerDay]

Pics below. I wuped off the soot and had a really close look around the rim and primer and lower part of the case... can't see anything indicating a ruptured case or gas blowby or anything.

 

[Tommygunn]

As a point of interest, it looks like that carbine is wearing an M-2 stock. You can see the slot in the wood receiver for the selector switch to the left of the breech.

 

[1KPerDay]

Yep, good eye. I believe it's an Italian FAT marked stock from the CMP. One of the returns I guess.

 

[CoalTrain49]

I believe the first thing anyone should do when buying a used carbine is purchase a bolt rebuild package and strip the bolt. If all is good you have spare parts, if not rebuild it right there. I purchased 2 used Inland carbines and the bolts on both needed a rebuild. I think people avoid it because it takes some time to learn how to do it. Probably the most avoided maintenance on the entire rifle. I know why now.

 

[1KPerDay]

Any tricks to installing bolt guts? Is it pretty much like garand bolts ?

 

[stratocaster]

Borrow or buy a carbine bolt tool to re-assemble your bolt. You will save a ton of grief and your thumbs too.

 

[eastbank]

take a Q-tip and clean out the extractor spring hole and check the spring and maybe buff the spring and plunger, the plunger spring or plunger may have hung up allowing the extractor to go airborne. eastbank.

 

[1KPerDay]

will do, eastbank.

 

[HOWARD J]

There should be videos on U tube to show you how to reassemble M! carbine bolt
Gun Parts should have bolt assembly tool

I use my MI carbine for home protection
Handy little weapon

 

[1KPerDay]

Got the assembly tool and got the bolt cleaned and back together. Works pretty well, though I got a couple of failures to eject jams where the empty gets caught by the front of the op rod against the receiver, aligned with the barrel. Kinda like a stovepipe turned 90 degrees. New ejector spring maybe?

 

[kanook]

It isn't gonna hurt to rebuild it, now that you have the "tool".

Might as well order the piston wrench while you're at it.

 

[1KPerDay]

Have one of those. Haven't needed it yet.