Inline Explodes

[Ephraim Kibbey]

In MeHavey's first link the spotter/photographer says that they had had a "gunsmith" clean it before taking it to the range and that this was the first round through it since that.

I do not own an inline nor have I operated the action on one (but I do own, shoot and clean smokeless bolt action rifles.) I would think that to clean it, the "gunsmith" would have opened the bolt action and run a cleaning rod up and down from breech to muzzle repeatedly. I think the idea of a second round or something blocking the barrel would be unlikely UNLESS the "gunsmith" left a bunch of cleaning patches wadded up inside.

If they are planning on suing the "gunsmith," that would be a reason for not even bringing up the question of propellant. This is where you need a knowledgeable reporter to ask insightful questions!!! Watch for a lawsuit coming to an internet near you.

My vote is on smokeless.

PS: I want a gunsmith to clean all MY guns (and a gardener to pull all MY weeds and a maid to clean MY house) but I guess I am not in this guy's racket.

 

[redbullitt]

My blackpowder rifle really smokes at 90 grains... enough that I cannot see what I shot. More powder means more smoke right? My smokeless muzzleloader however... no smoke and you can clearly tell the difference.

 

[rodwha]

Indeed. There's no question about the difference in smoke and its thickness between BP and subs and smokeless.

 

[whughett]

Indeed. There's no question about the difference in smoke and its thickness between BP and subs and smokeless.

 

[entropy]

A gunsmith cleans all my guns, and no worries about lawsuits.

 

[sharps59]

In MeHavey's first link the spotter/photographer says that they had had a "gunsmith" clean it before taking it to the range and that this was the first round through it since that.

I do not own an inline nor have I operated the action on one (but I do own, shoot and clean smokeless bolt action rifles.) I would think that to clean it, the "gunsmith" would have opened the bolt action and run a cleaning rod up and down from breech to muzzle repeatedly. I think the idea of a second round or something blocking the barrel would be unlikely UNLESS the "gunsmith" left a bunch of cleaning patches wadded up inside.

If they are planning on suing the "gunsmith," that would be a reason for not even bringing up the question of propellant. This is where you need a knowledgeable reporter to ask insightful questions!!! Watch for a lawsuit coming to an internet near you.

My vote is on smokeless.

PS: I want a gunsmith to clean all MY guns (and a gardener to pull all MY weeds and a maid to clean MY house) but I guess I am not in this guy's racket.

UNLESS I'M WRONG. a bolt action mz is only to set the primer not load it.. It still has to be loaded from the muzzle. therefore anything in the barrel would have been pushed to the breach. either he did not or could not set the bullet and tried to shoot it out. or he used smokeless powder.
I personalty think one of the dangers of having mz's that shoot smokeless power is people thinking they can use smokeless in any mz.

 

[Ephraim Kibbey]

Thanks for the correction Sharps59! As per my caveat, I have never handled one and was going on the bolt actions of my rifles.

 

[Whacked]

Old vid but a good one

 

[Malachi Leviticus Blue]

Here is an example of how a newbie (thinking they are getting advice form an expert) can be led to believe that somehow using smokeless powder is safe in a muzzleloader.

you can find this ignorant logic at the Gunbroker auction link below for a Ruger Old Army...
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/701488608

the irresponsible description reads (with my RED emphasis added)... "good condition/action, clean, nipples anti-seized, cylinder has no rust/pitting but bore has slight rust in edges of the grooves for the 1st few inches, use 3/16ths socket for nipples, pistol has the same steel as a non-blackpowder Rugers so many have used smokeless w/caution(not for amateurs)...some use 5gr of triple 7 to insure ignition and 20+grs of Blackhorn 209 w/conicals and get the performance of a 44mag"

This probably makes some sort of sense to the ignorant, and that is more than dangerous. It could easily be deadly.

 

[jaguarxk120]

I still think it was the powder used by those idiots. They went to the gun store and asked for powder for a
Remington rifle and the guy behind the counter gave them a fast pistol powder, black powder burns fast so it stands to reason pistol powder will work.
After all those guys behind the gun counter know ALL there is to know about shooting!!

 

[whughett]

UNLESS I'M WRONG. a bolt action mz is only to set the primer not load it.. It still has to be loaded from the muzzle. therefore anything in the barrel would have been pushed to the breach. either he did not or could not set the bullet and tried to shoot it out. or he used smokeless powder.
I personalty think one of the dangers of having mz's that shoot smokeless power is people thinking they can use smokeless in

I owned two in line muzzle loader bolt action, A Black Diamond and A Remington 700, youngest son now has them. Both are designed to be cleaned from the breech. Hard to believe that a gun smith would not know that. The tools for pulling the breech plug comes with the gun.
any mz.

 

[alsaqr]

The shooter and friend never did show the powder used, WHY????

IMO: There is a very good chance the shooter intentionally used a smokeless powder.