Inserting a round into the chamber.

[bg226]

In the Beretta Px4 manual it lists some methods for chambering a round. One of the methods is where a round is inserted into the chamber through the ejection port and the slide is then closed.

I thought doing this can damage the extractors on some guns?

Is the Px4 immune to this?

 

[Lonestar49]

50/50 chance of OOPS!!!

...

NO

IMO, best load full mag, rack and chamber one in (everytime) then take mag out and load one back in for max ammo load of 11, or whatever max load mag your State allows by law.

*I think the method you describe, and IF the book says it's ok, it must be for your last bullet, and you're going down, and is to be used, that way, to end your pain. *Note: this is my sick humor, at best, only.


LS

 

[lee n. field]

I thought doing this can damage the extractors on some guns?

Is the Px4 immune to this?

I would guess if the manual said you can, that it's OK.

I know this is OK w/ Ruger P series autos (excepting maybe the P345, which uses a different design extractor).

 

[Sistema1927]

I am not familiar with this Beretta, but if it has a spring loaded external extractor if shouldn't be a problem.

Not a good idea with the 1911 and it's internal extractor, but if Beretta allows it in the owner's manual you should be OK.

 

[CWL]

I would suggest that you adopt the same manual of arms for every pistol that you own (and will own in the future). Generally, it is not a good thing to let the extractor slide over the rim of a round. Just get used to chambering every pistol/weapon you have by means of loading a round off-of a magazine.

 

[E357]

The ability to chamber a round in this fashion was one of the major selling points for the Beretta 92/M9 series. I didn't know it was Ok in the Px4 - but the Beretta people probably know more than I.

 

[jad0110]

I've always been uncomfortable sticking my finger down in the chamber ... bet it would hurt if I accidently dropped the slide .

Anyone ever done that and care to share ?

 

[DoubleTapDrew]

bet it would hurt if I accidently dropped the slide

The easiest way to prevent that is to use someone else's finger
I worry about that too and thus keep my thumb AWAY from that slide release and make sure it's all the way up in the groove when locking it back!

 

[strat81]

First time I field-stripped a gun I got the web of my hand stuck between the slide and recoil spring. It hurt. A lot.

 

[ipscshooter]

I've always been uncomfortable sticking my finger down in the chamber ... bet it would hurt if I accidently dropped the slide

Almost as bad as M1 Garand thumb.

 

[Navy87Guy]

One of the advantages of the M9 is that you can load a single round through the ejection port. So in a fire fight, you can pick up the other guy's magazine and load his rounds into your gone - albeit a little slowly. Can't do that very effectively with a Glock.

Jim

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

Originally posted by bg226:
One of the methods is where a round is inserted into the chamber through the ejection port and the slide is then closed.

If the manual says this is OK, fine, but it is likely to be very awkward. And don't release the slide while your fingers are in there.

I will still continue to chamber the round out of the magazine, I think.

 

[bg226]

It's good to know that I can safely load rounds that way in the Beretta Px4.

- No need to "top off" the mag, just stick a round into the chamber.

- Perhaps avoiding bullet setback when having to chamber and rechamber the defense ammo (like after range sessions).

 

[XDKingslayer]

I've always been uncomfortable sticking my finger down in the chamber ... bet it would hurt if I accidently dropped the slide .

Anyone ever done that and care to share ?

I've done it with a few of my autos. I am the type that will physically check the chamber to be empty in this fashion. It's a military throwback that's habit now.

I've done it on my Taurus PT-138 .380 and I've done it on my XD-45GAP with a heavier spring. It only scared me on the .380 but the XD took flesh. Pain would be an understatement. I still check it that way and will continue to. I just do it faster now.

 

[metallic]

I've always been uncomfortable sticking my finger down in the chamber ... bet it would hurt if I accidently dropped the slide

I've had a Glock 27 take the skin off the side of my thumb while going back into battery during firing. Not the same as nailing my entire thumb, but it still hurt, well burned.

 

[jad0110]

I've done it with a few of my autos. I am the type that will physically check the chamber to be empty in this fashion. It's a military throwback that's habit now.

I started doing it that way, then I got nervous about it. Now, I remove the mag, lock the slide back and hold the gun up to some nearby object and I look at it down through the ejection port out the bottom of the magwell to confirm 110% that it is empty.

I enjoy shell shuckers, but mano I do love the simplicity of a sweet wheelie .

bg226,

Just as others said, it just depends on your individual gun. Sounds like yours is safe to load a round through the ejection port.

As Sistema noted though (for future reference), internal extractor 1911s are most certainly NOT supposed to have a round loaded through the ejection port. Many perfectly good 1911 internal extractors have been fudged up by loading them that way. Of course, I suspect their are some folks that have "always done it that way" with no problems.