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Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by memphisjim, Sep 16, 2008.

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  1. memphisjim

    memphisjim Member

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    ive watched about 10 minutes thus far and he has some scoped rifle
    what would you carry saying a few months out there
    im sure plenty will say ak47 or sks
    but for that weight you could have bolt rifle
    or break open and a hand gun
    remember however that germany was ill prepared for the soviet winter
    ok so question what would you have in alaskan yukon territory
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    i wont accept a foldind stock ak47 and glock 10mm as your answer
     
  2. theken206

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    kalashikov clone chambered in 7.62x39 and a 10mm pistol that alot of people hate :p

    something capable of taking moose and grizz and the like as well as a .22 rifle of some sort
     
  3. memphisjim

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    i hate how cheap and crude the stamped out ak47 feels pluss be care fullful chambering it youll cut your self on the safety
    what about a bolt action 3006 and a ruger 10/22 both with the yet to be made carbonfiber stocks
     
  4. memphisjim

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    oh the 7.62x39mm has taken every walking think in africa
    but alaka yukon is tougher?
     
  5. Loomis

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    Is this the movie where the guy goes to alaska on foot with only a 22 rimfire? And lives in an old junker school bus converted into a cabin?

    I'd hafta say if on foot, I'd be thinking about something small and light, but not quite as light duty as a 22rimfire. I'd go with a keltec 223 folding rifle. Iron sights, no scope. And no pistol...too much weight to lug around.
     
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    loomis decent chose i suppose
    would that be less weight vs ability than a tc contender with a coupla barrels?
     
  7. AntiqueCollector

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    I'd want something that could take a bear out if needed. I'd not use 7.62X39, not powerful enough. A mosin-nagant could certainly take the cold climate up there, as to whether or not it would be enough, there's not going to be agreement on that. For a handgun, I'd take my Colt Walker.
     
  8. 357WheelGun

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    Mosin M91/30. Even if I run out of ammo it will still make a damn fine club. :p
     
  9. SJgunguy24

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    Well if I can't use my Saiga 7.62X39. What about a Saiga .308?
     
  10. hso

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    Finn M39

    Tikka or Sako in 300.
     
  11. mr.72

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    I hated that movie.

    Anyway, remember you have to haul ammo as well. Given the primary purpose of a gun if you are "Tramping" like this educated idiot in the movie is to hunt game, I think a .22LR is the best choice pound for pound, including ammo. You can carry a lot more ammo in .22LR for the same weight as a larger caliber and .22LR kills rabbits and other small game just as well.

    As for a self defense gun, I'd have to say a poly-frame, high-cap auto handgun and given ammo weight again, I would have to go with 9mm. A couple of hundred rounds of +P+, I wouldn't plan on killing a bear with it but short of that you are probably set and it's 1/2 the weight of .44mag. 1/2 the weight equals twice as many rounds in your pack. For a 15-18 round high-cap 9mm carrying the ammo in a couple of magazines makes it less to pack.
     
  12. rc109a

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    What about a lever action in 357? Then a 22lr pistol.
     
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    wow, the incredible skill of syntax, punctuation, and grammar in the first half of this thread boggles the mind.
    I think memphisjim is drunk! :neener:

    I would take a mosin M91/30. Mostly because I am confident with it. And a .22lr pistol. For the wee critters.
     
  14. highorder

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    I don't know that it was to be loved or hated.

    It was the true story of a young man that chose a path that led to his premature death.

    We could spend all day on "what caliber for unprepared individialists?" but that doesn't change his situation.

    Did those of you that hated the movie read the book? I suspect that most that didn't read the book were bored by the movie. The reluctant storyteller style that Krakauer uses in most of his work translated really well on film. I thought it was convienent and creative to exchange the sister's perspective for the narrarators.

    Anyway, I would carry a levergun in .45-70 and a Springfield M6 in 22lr/.410
     
  15. sargenv

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    I read the original article in I think Outdoor magazine then later the book that was made from the original article. So now there is a movie too? Well one good thing, it's not another "remake". I thought that guy was an idiot fromthe start. Initially he wasn't even going to bring a firearm. The one that he had, he had to give up when he went over the border to the south. I think it was a Colt or some kind of nice revolver. I do believe that whoever dropped him off before he headed to the bus insisted that he take the 22 he had.

    I think if it were me, I'd bring some sort of lever gun and lots of whatever ammo I could bring. At least a 30-30. If I had my druthers, I'd also have some sort of shotgun, maybe one of the foldable 410's for small game. Ammo is light to carry and has enough punch for small game and birds.

    One thing for sure, Nature teaches you Humility.. Muir and other explorers show you the romantic side of nature, but unfortunately you take an unprepared educated idiot into the wild and this kind of thing happens. If he'd been better prepared and had a map of the area, he'd have seen that there was a crossing basket about a half mile up from where he tried in vain to ford the river when he was all done with his "adventure" but before he poisoned himself with those seeds.
     
  16. Colt46

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    Partial to the '92 winchester in .45 Colt

    Really capable of most big game in Alaska if you bring CorBon or Buffalo Bore.
    Also, a .22 rimfire revolver or light rifle.

    I read the book, but didn't see the film. A good read. I couldn't identify with the author's attempt to bring nobility to the young man who ended up dead in a sleeping bag in the back of an old school bus.
    The kid was woefully unprepared and it cost his life.
     
  17. mr.72

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    Even Sean Penn films are entertainment media.

    The movie was boring, and painful to watch what was a foregone conclusion even if you hadn't read the book, which is the kid dies because he has no clue what he's doing.

    Mr. Penn attempts to romanticize this lifestyle and make the sacrifice of one's life while trying to shun society a noble act, but it is in reality the revealing of a fool.

    Kind of reminded me of "Grizzly Man", but at least that featured real documentary footage of a real insane man, and absolutely no judgment from the film maker (that must have been hard to do!).
     
  18. JohnL2

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    Haven't seen the movie, but I will probably read the book by John Krakauer.
    So true. I think we here have all had fantasies about leaving it all behind and becoming mountain men.
    I bet the movie focuses on what a romantic tragedy it was. Never get caught up in the "melodrama" of nature. It is all survival.
    I like to throw off the trappings of urban life too now and then. But I plan to come back.
    Be prepared. Be knowledgeable.
     
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    Yeah, I hated that movie too.

    I'd go w/ a 30-06 bolty and a 10mm Glock :neener:
     
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    .357 Levergun and matching S&W L frame Airweight revolver in same caliber. Same thing I would carry in the lower 48 wild.
     
  21. Cosmoline

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    I rather liked the film. It's one of only a tiny, tiny handful of films set in Alaska to actually be FILMED here. The quality of the lighting and the nature of the scenery say "Alaska" to me, while 99% of the others say "British Columbia" or "soundstage."

    Of course he was young and foolish. Most of us have been young and foolish. He was trying to escape everything, and he did.
     
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    An accurate, scoped (w/iron sight backup), bolt rifle in a versatile caliber like .243Win., .270Win. or .30-06Sprgfld. with a sling. I'd bring a long-barreled (6" or more) revolver (more dependable) in a solid, proven caliber like .357Mag/.38Spec. so it, also, will be versatile. AND PLENTY OF AMMO !


    Mr. 72 -
    What are you talkin' about? He was learning as he went and was doing a pretty darned good job at. He made one small mistake - which turns out to be huge. Give him some credit, he was young.







    SPOILER ALERT !!​


    Don't read past this if you haven't seen the movie!​

    I felt bad at the end of the movie because after surviving in that harsh environment, he dies because of a look-alike plant.
     
  23. GigaBuist

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    Nope. He wasn't poisoned and he was losing weight as soon as he went off into the wilderness. It only took him 113 days to finally starve to death.

    http://www.tifilms.com/wild/call_debunked.htm
     
  24. Maplicito

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    Rather than picking my guns from the unlimited arsenal of the imagination, I'm just going to pick from what I actually own.

    I would take my Ruger 10/22, and if I got to take a second gun, I'd either take my Tikka T3 Lite in .338 Win Mag, or my .303 British. The Bearanoid fool in me would want the T3, but the .303 has proven itself rugged for 91 years, and still is completely and utterly reliable, and has the advantage of tough iron sights instead of the Tikka's scope, so I'd probably opt for the .303.
     
  25. Cosmoline

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    I can't be too critical of him because I nearly got killed homesteading off the Susitna. If I hadn't been on the road system that first winter I would have died. The heater burned the trailer out, so we had to ditch and go to a motel until I could repair the damage. When you leave the roads and transport, as he did, you make little things like that into really big things. Plus he had no idea how to prepare game. As the film shows he tried to "smoke" a moose by stuffing a fire in its gut.
     
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