Irony is SO SWEET!!!!

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Germans dismayed that Poles could command their troops
From Roger Boyes in Berlin



GERMANY has responded angrily to a proposal that its troops be deployed in northern Iraq under the command of Poland, one of the newest members of Nato.

The United States recommended that Poland take over the military administration of northern Iraq, in charge of peacekeeping duties. The force under its command would number about 7,000, including contingents from Nato members such as Romania, Bulgaria and possibly Germany.

Peter Struck, the German Defence Minister, said he would “look into†the proposal, but was clearly opposed...


...Neither Germany nor France had expected to take a leading military role in postwar Iraq, but the idea that Poland could take charge has stirred a hornets’ nest. President Kwasniewski of Poland will try to resolve the matter when he meets German and French leaders tomorrow, but there is no mistaking the dismay in “old Europe†as Poland flexes its muscles...


...Deep down, most German politicians are unwilling to accept the concept. From the days of Bismarck until 1945, the Poles were seen as a subject people by Prussians and by Germans. The notion that a Polish captain can give orders to a German soldier will take some getting used to.


The whole article is here: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,5944-673207,00.html , but I just found the irony so delicious...
 
Oh, if this had only happened twenty years ago.

An aunt of my wife was an unwilling "play-toy" of the SS in one of the Polish camps. She died not long after I met her.

I suspect she might have enjoyed making some Germans squirm.
 
Oh, I LOVE IT!!!


Please, please, please, let it be so! :D :D :D

Take down that German pride! YES! And put the French under the Germans. It's okay, they're used to it.




And after all, we owe them this after all the Polak jokes we used to tell. :neener:
 
A German soldier, a frencH soldier, and a Pollock walk into a country...


:D :D :D :D :D
 
LOL:D LOL:D LOL!:D especially because the German military is well aware that the casualties (especially anti-armor casualties) caused by the Polish Army almost stopped the blitzkrieg cold in it's tracks with the invasion of Poland (and at least the Brits are aware that this was the real reason for the 'sitzkrieg' that immediatly followed. (the Germans rebuilt, and were betting on the French and Brits not being as good at antitank tactics - and they were right.)

It is entirely fitting that the Poles should be in command... and as good socialists the Germans have no reasonable cause to complain. :D
 
ahadams,

...especially because the German military is well aware that the casualties (especially anti-armor casualties) caused by the Polish Army almost stopped the blitzkrieg cold in it's tracks with the invasion of Poland (and at least the Brits are aware that this was the real reason for the 'sitzkrieg' that immediatly followed. (the Germans rebuilt, and were betting on the French and Brits not being as good at antitank tactics - and they were right.)

er... do you have any evidence to back this up? It sounds like saying that the Iraqis almost stopped the Coalition cold in its tracks.
 
Poland's status as an occupied territory started long before Bismark, back in the 1790s.

Anti-armor performance: 60% of German and Czech tanks used were in need of an overhaul after the invasion was over. Mechanical problems were more frequent than battle damage, but Polish field artillery did more damage than was expected.

On an interesting note, Polish president returned to Poland in 1942, AFAIK, to fight as a guerilla. KIA later on.
 
Yeah, right.

There is already a joint German-Polish-Danish military unit, the "Multinational Corps North-East", which is based in Szczecin some 50 k's from my place.

I went there last year for a leadership seminar and I found the atmosphere not only cooperative and professional, but also friendly and cordial.

The command is assumed by each country in turns.

German troops thus have been under Polish (and other NATO members') command before. It never posed a problem.

Those "Times" guys should rather go and check out the facts themselves before writing such crap.

It is however telling that some people seem to fall back into the old anti-German/anti-French rhetorics rather fast. It only takes a small, unconfirmed piece of info...

"I think this sudden lurch of Francophobia is sort of silly. Hating people in groups is basically childish, and it is just as silly for us to hate them as it is for them to hate us. This Chirac is a conspicuous jerk, but look what we had for the previous two terms! We don't use French fries, but I do relish Roquefort"

- from "Jeff Cooper's Commentaries", Vol. 11


Regards,

Trooper
 
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