Irresponsible "Heavy" People?
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Thumper
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It's not about diplomacy...
Ever go to a shooting school? The civilians that are there are 80% overweight.
It's not funny... Losing thirty pounds and learning a few empty hand techniques could save you a lot of cash in lawyer money.
You think you're more likely to get in a gunfight than a fistfight? Of course not. As a CCW holder, any confrontation you are forced into has a gun involved.
Unfortunately, if you're terribly overweight, you might have no choice...a simple fistfight has turned into a gunfight.
You have a higher responsibility as a CCW holder.
Again, this doesn't apply to the infirm, the handicapped, or those with glandular conditions. I'm talking about plain old "lazy fat."
I was going to say something about not being so thin skinned, but that obviously doesn't apply here.
Ever go to a shooting school? The civilians that are there are 80% overweight.
It's not funny... Losing thirty pounds and learning a few empty hand techniques could save you a lot of cash in lawyer money.
You think you're more likely to get in a gunfight than a fistfight? Of course not. As a CCW holder, any confrontation you are forced into has a gun involved.
Unfortunately, if you're terribly overweight, you might have no choice...a simple fistfight has turned into a gunfight.
You have a higher responsibility as a CCW holder.
Again, this doesn't apply to the infirm, the handicapped, or those with glandular conditions. I'm talking about plain old "lazy fat."
I was going to say something about not being so thin skinned, but that obviously doesn't apply here.
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Thumper
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I hope you also try to avoid gunfights. Doesn't mean one won't come to you.
'Course, as I said, you're much more likely to be involved in a physical confrontation, right?
10-Ring
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I'm in the health club industry & see a variety of people shapes. Being in SoCal the spectrum runs from elite athlete to extremely unhealthy. Sure it's important to find the right firearm & practice w/ it, to have a proper state of mind but also to keep your body in healthy condition so if called upon, it will work properly.
bogie
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When I was 18, I was 6'2" and about 200 pounds.
By 1984, the years of farm work and living in a football dorm had resulted in a weight of 260. When I hit someone, they stayed hit - had the 2nd largest neck in the football dorm - #1 was a mutant.... Army considered me overweight tho, and I dropped to 205 in basic training, and you could see ribs. Not happy. Gained a bit back during AIT, etc., wore a 56" jacket and 36" pants...
Worked out a lot, lifted weights, ran, bicycled, etc... Finished school - the summer I worked in a K-Mart's garden center, I'd routinely carry 150-200 pounds of stuff to people's cars.
Started my own typesetting business in 1987. Then around 1988, I trashed my left knee (NEVER play a pickup football game with teenagers who aren't yet old enough to drive - they cheat), and in 1989, I was in a head-on car wreck, and pulled a lot of muscles in my back. And I started gaining weight. Tried diets, etc... Gained weight.
Got up to 380 on January 5, 2001. Had a long chat with my boss at work (pharma R&D) and our head metabolic guy, and a long chat with my bud Clay, and I went on a modified Atkins-style low-carb diet.
This morning, I weighed 286. I'm off blood pressure meds, my cholesterol is down to "normal" levels, my triglycerides were at 85 last time I checked, etc.
I suspect that about 20+ pounds could be lost via surgery to lose some excess skin. I may do that eventually.
I don't run. I've tried, in the recent past, and I'm still limping. The knee is somewhat better, but an ankle that I broke a coupla times in the Army is not happy right now.
So, sorry, but my options are limited. I can't run away. Heck, some days it's all I can do to walk.
I am not going to dedicate my life to martial arts, etc... They're cute and all that, but... Been there, done that, really hurt a little guy who insisted on bouncing around and flailing about. Nor am I going to attempt to become ubertactical. There's more to life.
I avoid problems. I avoid fights. If someone is in a bar, and wants to fight, for some reason they seem to pick me. Especially if they're a little on the small side... I guess it's about having something to prove, bolstered by booze. I don't oblige 'em. I don't want to hurt someone unless I really have to, and I know that if I get started, I _will_ hurt them. I don't want to put some damn fool in the hospital, or in the ground. They wanna talk trash, fine. I've been shoved, etc., also. Usually by the time things get to that, there's someone else around to escort 'em to the door. That's no longer my job.
By 1984, the years of farm work and living in a football dorm had resulted in a weight of 260. When I hit someone, they stayed hit - had the 2nd largest neck in the football dorm - #1 was a mutant.... Army considered me overweight tho, and I dropped to 205 in basic training, and you could see ribs. Not happy. Gained a bit back during AIT, etc., wore a 56" jacket and 36" pants...
Worked out a lot, lifted weights, ran, bicycled, etc... Finished school - the summer I worked in a K-Mart's garden center, I'd routinely carry 150-200 pounds of stuff to people's cars.
Started my own typesetting business in 1987. Then around 1988, I trashed my left knee (NEVER play a pickup football game with teenagers who aren't yet old enough to drive - they cheat), and in 1989, I was in a head-on car wreck, and pulled a lot of muscles in my back. And I started gaining weight. Tried diets, etc... Gained weight.
Got up to 380 on January 5, 2001. Had a long chat with my boss at work (pharma R&D) and our head metabolic guy, and a long chat with my bud Clay, and I went on a modified Atkins-style low-carb diet.
This morning, I weighed 286. I'm off blood pressure meds, my cholesterol is down to "normal" levels, my triglycerides were at 85 last time I checked, etc.
I suspect that about 20+ pounds could be lost via surgery to lose some excess skin. I may do that eventually.
I don't run. I've tried, in the recent past, and I'm still limping. The knee is somewhat better, but an ankle that I broke a coupla times in the Army is not happy right now.
So, sorry, but my options are limited. I can't run away. Heck, some days it's all I can do to walk.
I am not going to dedicate my life to martial arts, etc... They're cute and all that, but... Been there, done that, really hurt a little guy who insisted on bouncing around and flailing about. Nor am I going to attempt to become ubertactical. There's more to life.
I avoid problems. I avoid fights. If someone is in a bar, and wants to fight, for some reason they seem to pick me. Especially if they're a little on the small side... I guess it's about having something to prove, bolstered by booze. I don't oblige 'em. I don't want to hurt someone unless I really have to, and I know that if I get started, I _will_ hurt them. I don't want to put some damn fool in the hospital, or in the ground. They wanna talk trash, fine. I've been shoved, etc., also. Usually by the time things get to that, there's someone else around to escort 'em to the door. That's no longer my job.
Felonious Monk
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Offered for your consideration:
I really don't believe Thumper was being deliberately offensive with the thread title.
I DO believe it was a poor choice of words.
To paint "Fat" with the broad brush of "Irresponsible" is to assume things that make an A$$ of u (NOT me).
MUCH has to do with genetic predisposition.
Some has to do with choices made by the individual.
Many U.S. individuals are fat and lazy. Symptomatic of a prosperous society.
I'm 41; 6 feet and 360 lbs. Built physically just like my mom. Up until a year or so ago, I was a big, tough guy. Played football in H.S., LOTS of active sports, and ran; maintained my weight at about 325, and worked out...HARD...3-4 days per week.
3 years ago, responsibility required that I take on an additional job, and my work day was 2:30AM to 7PM.
For three years, I slept a total of 4 hours a day, didn't work out, gained weight, lost health, and still had to declare Chapter 7 when it was all said and done (LOOONG sad story worthy of a blues tune).
Now, I'm just trying to regain my health so I CAN work out again.
Fat? Yep.
Tactical? Like a dump truck.
Irresponsible? I'm calling Bravo Sierra on that crap.
And by the way...you mentioned fat guys might have to "depend on their CCW in a simple fistfight."
What defines an unprovoked attack as a "simple fistfight"?
When does it STOP becoming a "simple fistfight" and escalate into a struggle for life and death?
Bravo Sierra.
Know this: Attack me or my loved ones without provocation, prepare to have the threat neutralized, be it hands, knife, baton, or gun.
I really don't believe Thumper was being deliberately offensive with the thread title.
I DO believe it was a poor choice of words.
To paint "Fat" with the broad brush of "Irresponsible" is to assume things that make an A$$ of u (NOT me).
MUCH has to do with genetic predisposition.
Some has to do with choices made by the individual.
Many U.S. individuals are fat and lazy. Symptomatic of a prosperous society.
I'm 41; 6 feet and 360 lbs. Built physically just like my mom. Up until a year or so ago, I was a big, tough guy. Played football in H.S., LOTS of active sports, and ran; maintained my weight at about 325, and worked out...HARD...3-4 days per week.
3 years ago, responsibility required that I take on an additional job, and my work day was 2:30AM to 7PM.
For three years, I slept a total of 4 hours a day, didn't work out, gained weight, lost health, and still had to declare Chapter 7 when it was all said and done (LOOONG sad story worthy of a blues tune).
Now, I'm just trying to regain my health so I CAN work out again.
Fat? Yep.
Tactical? Like a dump truck.
Irresponsible? I'm calling Bravo Sierra on that crap.
And by the way...you mentioned fat guys might have to "depend on their CCW in a simple fistfight."
What defines an unprovoked attack as a "simple fistfight"?
When does it STOP becoming a "simple fistfight" and escalate into a struggle for life and death?
Bravo Sierra.
Know this: Attack me or my loved ones without provocation, prepare to have the threat neutralized, be it hands, knife, baton, or gun.
Thumper,
It also doesn't apply to folks who are taking martial arts classes or learning other H2H techniques, does it? Plenty of fat people do those things -- and plenty of skinny people don't.
My jujitsu class has a lot of fat people in it. Several of us joined for the exercise, hoping to lose a bit of weight, and then looked around and realized that that wasn't what the class was about.
It's not about the fat. It's about knowing how to defend yourself. Plenty of fat people have the physical skills to do that -- and plenty of skinny people don't.
pax
My doctor told me to stop having intimate dinners for four. Unless there are three other people. -- Orson Welles
David Park
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Some of you (both the heavy guys and the featherweights) might like this diet guide I found on a bodybuilding site last night:
http://www.t-nation.com/nation_articles/271diet.jsp
For years I was one of those skinny guys who could eat anything and never gain weight, but in the past 8 months I've gained 15 pounds. This would be great except that most of the weight gain is in an area that makes IWB carry more difficult. That was my wake-up call, so my goal is to gain more muscle than fat, and stick with a serious weekly exercise routine.
I don't think there's anything wrong with being overweight (or underweight) as long as you meet a minimum standard of physical fitness. The key part of the original thread title "irresponsible fatbodies" was about being irresponsible. I've been irresponsible by eating junk and rarely execising even though I was underweight, and now I'm trying to get to a normal healthy weight, which is different than being a skinny guy with a beer gut.
http://www.t-nation.com/nation_articles/271diet.jsp
For years I was one of those skinny guys who could eat anything and never gain weight, but in the past 8 months I've gained 15 pounds. This would be great except that most of the weight gain is in an area that makes IWB carry more difficult. That was my wake-up call, so my goal is to gain more muscle than fat, and stick with a serious weekly exercise routine.
I don't think there's anything wrong with being overweight (or underweight) as long as you meet a minimum standard of physical fitness. The key part of the original thread title "irresponsible fatbodies" was about being irresponsible. I've been irresponsible by eating junk and rarely execising even though I was underweight, and now I'm trying to get to a normal healthy weight, which is different than being a skinny guy with a beer gut.
only1asterisk
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Thumper,
I'm sure you would call me fat, but I am not offended. Strong, healthy, young people, unencumbered by excess gut, have an advantage in all aspects of life. Enjoy it while you have it, do what you have to do in order to keep it.
Those of us who accept some extra weight as our vice are no different than people that smoke or drink or have other vices that may shorten their lives. Fat people have enough problems to face without losing our right to protect ourselves. I think fat people have as much right to carry a gun as a skinny one. They have the same burden of responsibility as well. However, being skinny and being healthy are not one in the same. Neither are being skinny and being able to fight. I have know people both healthy and not, fat and skinny, young and old that lived long lives and kicked serious @$$ as required.
To be quite honest, fat has nothing to do with it. In my current occupation I confont dozens of people a night (mostly drunk college kids in groups). I tell them things that they don't want to hear. After hundreds of confontations, I have yet to let it escalate into violence. It is possible to avoid the huge majority of fights. Fist fights? I left that **** behind me in Jr. High.
I'll tell you what I take offense at, and that is the word civilian to mean citizen! Even if you are in the military, a "civilian" shooting school is where us "civilians" belong. If you're not military, I suggest you stop using that particular word to describe your fellow citizens.
David
I'm sure you would call me fat, but I am not offended. Strong, healthy, young people, unencumbered by excess gut, have an advantage in all aspects of life. Enjoy it while you have it, do what you have to do in order to keep it.
Those of us who accept some extra weight as our vice are no different than people that smoke or drink or have other vices that may shorten their lives. Fat people have enough problems to face without losing our right to protect ourselves. I think fat people have as much right to carry a gun as a skinny one. They have the same burden of responsibility as well. However, being skinny and being healthy are not one in the same. Neither are being skinny and being able to fight. I have know people both healthy and not, fat and skinny, young and old that lived long lives and kicked serious @$$ as required.
To be quite honest, fat has nothing to do with it. In my current occupation I confont dozens of people a night (mostly drunk college kids in groups). I tell them things that they don't want to hear. After hundreds of confontations, I have yet to let it escalate into violence. It is possible to avoid the huge majority of fights. Fist fights? I left that **** behind me in Jr. High.
I'll tell you what I take offense at, and that is the word civilian to mean citizen! Even if you are in the military, a "civilian" shooting school is where us "civilians" belong. If you're not military, I suggest you stop using that particular word to describe your fellow citizens.
David
Andrew Wyatt
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Very often, sheer size is the best thing to have in a groundfight, which is where fist fights always end up.
gburner
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Thumper,
Rather than speculate on whether an inability to defend oneself in hand to hand combat is aggrevated by obesity, perhaps you should reflect on the probability that an offensive verbal tactlessness on a person's part will actually start a fistfight.
In other words...get a clue.
Rather than speculate on whether an inability to defend oneself in hand to hand combat is aggrevated by obesity, perhaps you should reflect on the probability that an offensive verbal tactlessness on a person's part will actually start a fistfight.
In other words...get a clue.
bogie
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And remember that most "fistfights" require two participants.
If someone picks a fight with me, I don't cooperate. Sometimes that _really_ hacks 'em off, but hey, that's not my problem. I don't play those games anymore.
Now, if it is an "attack," all bets are off.
If someone picks a fight with me, I don't cooperate. Sometimes that _really_ hacks 'em off, but hey, that's not my problem. I don't play those games anymore.
Now, if it is an "attack," all bets are off.
BerettaNut92
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I'm on the other side of the spectrum...I weigh about as much as Runt when she's all geared up. (105 + 15? )
I can't gain weight to save my life. Seriously I poop it out faster than I can eat it.
Grocery bill is about $50-70 a month, eating out is about $40 a month because of birthdays and stuff, otherwise it would be $20 or so.
)I can't gain weight to save my life. Seriously I poop it out faster than I can eat it.
Grocery bill is about $50-70 a month, eating out is about $40 a month because of birthdays and stuff, otherwise it would be $20 or so.
Both my wife and I are on the Atkin's diet. We both lost 27 pounds in about 2 1/2 months.
I work the treadmill. I started doing by doing it three times a week for 30 minutes, about 2 miles. now I am doing it for 50 minutes and go 3.3 miles, five days a week.
I have another 33 pounds to go to get to my ideal weight.
I know how hard it is to lose weight and I can understand how some people got insulted. One thing is certain is that being obese isn't healthy and I think all should try to lose weight if needed.
I highly recommend the Atkin's diet. Unlike other diets you don't go hungry and you can eat a lot of yummy food. Also studies have shown that t hose on a low-carb diet lose quicker than a low-fat diet.
I work the treadmill. I started doing by doing it three times a week for 30 minutes, about 2 miles. now I am doing it for 50 minutes and go 3.3 miles, five days a week.
I have another 33 pounds to go to get to my ideal weight.
I know how hard it is to lose weight and I can understand how some people got insulted. One thing is certain is that being obese isn't healthy and I think all should try to lose weight if needed.
I highly recommend the Atkin's diet. Unlike other diets you don't go hungry and you can eat a lot of yummy food. Also studies have shown that t hose on a low-carb diet lose quicker than a low-fat diet.
Mostly Harmless
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Arthritis means I can't run from a fight.
Survival instincts make me avoid trouble (found enough of it when I was younger).
I'm not fat -- just short for my weight.
I'm doing a modified Atkins, have no idea what I weigh at the moment or how much I've lost in the month I've been doing this -- I'll know when I go back to the doctor in about 6 weeks.
In the meantime my BP's dropping and so are my pants! Had to buy a new belt because the old one was fresh out of holes and my pants were dangerously loose.
Gonna need another new belt in a week or so. Think I'll take a trip to Goodwill and rent some clothes (they can have them back as soon as they're too big)
Best of all, I've lost the sugar highs/crashes. I don't usually feel hungry, I'm sleeping better without the BP meds, have more energy even on days when I didn't get all that much sleep (staying up late "doing things")
Now all I need to do is get some exercise, but with pretty much crippled knees that's proving difficult. Swimming is not an easily available option.
J.
Survival instincts make me avoid trouble (found enough of it when I was younger).
I'm not fat -- just short for my weight.
I'm doing a modified Atkins, have no idea what I weigh at the moment or how much I've lost in the month I've been doing this -- I'll know when I go back to the doctor in about 6 weeks.
In the meantime my BP's dropping and so are my pants! Had to buy a new belt because the old one was fresh out of holes and my pants were dangerously loose.
Gonna need another new belt in a week or so. Think I'll take a trip to Goodwill and rent some clothes (they can have them back as soon as they're too big)
Best of all, I've lost the sugar highs/crashes. I don't usually feel hungry, I'm sleeping better without the BP meds, have more energy even on days when I didn't get all that much sleep (staying up late "doing things")
Now all I need to do is get some exercise, but with pretty much crippled knees that's proving difficult. Swimming is not an easily available option.
J.
spacemanspiff
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you know whats funny? even though i've put on weight and am what some would call 'fat', in my mind i am still in the same shape i was in back in high school: 180 lbs, lean, and 40 lbs more muscle than others my 5'5" height.
but you know what? i've never been in a fight either. i've been hit in the head a couple times by others who wanted to fight. someone wants to start a fight with me, i'll grapple, but i wont strike. i may not be the fastest, but once i get a grip, i dont let go.
am i 'irresponsible'? prone to anger? making rash decisions without thinking about the consequences?
i think the intent of this thread was based in arrogance. i would venture that the person who started this thread looks down on people that dont fit his standard of 'responsiblity' and who are not height-weight proportionate. i hope i'm wrong.
besides, when SHTF and food supplies are scarce, whose going to last longer? those who have 5% bodyfat? or those with plenty of reserves and can go a month without eating?
spiff, tactically large. oh yeah, almost forgot, my fat gut has a better chance of stopping a bullet than that thin layer of skin you have over your internal organs. neener neener neener!
but you know what? i've never been in a fight either. i've been hit in the head a couple times by others who wanted to fight. someone wants to start a fight with me, i'll grapple, but i wont strike. i may not be the fastest, but once i get a grip, i dont let go.
am i 'irresponsible'? prone to anger? making rash decisions without thinking about the consequences?
i think the intent of this thread was based in arrogance. i would venture that the person who started this thread looks down on people that dont fit his standard of 'responsiblity' and who are not height-weight proportionate. i hope i'm wrong.
besides, when SHTF and food supplies are scarce, whose going to last longer? those who have 5% bodyfat? or those with plenty of reserves and can go a month without eating?
spiff, tactically large. oh yeah, almost forgot, my fat gut has a better chance of stopping a bullet than that thin layer of skin you have over your internal organs. neener neener neener!
Bobarino
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i'm skinny as heck. i figure that way, i present a smaller target. i just turn sideways and you'd have to be a crack shot to hit me. as for big dudes, it can be an advantage in a few selected situations i suppose, but i'd much rather be phisically fit and able to use the Reebok defense than able to sit on someone. thats just me though.
skinny makes it tougher to conceal a wepaon effectively though. takes a little trail and error to find a setup that works and doesn't make me look like i have a huge tumor on my butt.
and basketball? if i'm guarded by a big guy, i run him 'till he drops. and he can forget about getting rebounds. i used to be a high-jumper in track. swatty swatty.
Bobby
as for big dudes, it can be an advantage in a few selected situations i suppose, but i'd much rather be phisically fit and able to use the Reebok defense than able to sit on someone. thats just me though.skinny makes it tougher to conceal a wepaon effectively though. takes a little trail and error to find a setup that works and doesn't make me look like i have a huge tumor on my butt.
and basketball? if i'm guarded by a big guy, i run him 'till he drops. and he can forget about getting rebounds. i used to be a high-jumper in track. swatty swatty.
Bobby
Betty
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Here's a thought.
How about if badguys don't pick on people in the first place?
"Your honor, this little lady was too small to physically defend herself. If she just ate two more bites out of her food three times a day every day and pumped up on steroids, I'm sure she could've wrestled Mean Joe Bob to the ground and prevented him from raping her. But she shot him instead!"
"Your honor, this man was too fat to run away from the man who was trying to rob him at gunpoint. So he shot his mugger. This poor criminal would be alive today if this man over here didn't eat so many french fries."
De-escalting a situation means using the mind. It doesn't matter if you're a wee 100 pounds or a whopping 300. When it hits the fan, sometimes having a lot of mass can have advantages, weight-wise and bullet penetration-wise. For fun, I once wrestled a very LARGE friend. He didn't have to do much. He used his belly to press me up against a wall. And I was stuck there with his weight crushing me.
If you want to be lazy-fat, that's your business. It's your body, and I'm not going to blame your weight when you shoot the street thug who tries to harm you.
How about if badguys don't pick on people in the first place?
"Your honor, this little lady was too small to physically defend herself. If she just ate two more bites out of her food three times a day every day and pumped up on steroids, I'm sure she could've wrestled Mean Joe Bob to the ground and prevented him from raping her. But she shot him instead!"
"Your honor, this man was too fat to run away from the man who was trying to rob him at gunpoint. So he shot his mugger. This poor criminal would be alive today if this man over here didn't eat so many french fries."
De-escalting a situation means using the mind. It doesn't matter if you're a wee 100 pounds or a whopping 300. When it hits the fan, sometimes having a lot of mass can have advantages, weight-wise and bullet penetration-wise. For fun, I once wrestled a very LARGE friend. He didn't have to do much. He used his belly to press me up against a wall. And I was stuck there with his weight crushing me.
If you want to be lazy-fat, that's your business. It's your body, and I'm not going to blame your weight when you shoot the street thug who tries to harm you.
tommytrauma
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Not especially if you're a fanatic about it, ONLY if you're a fanatic about it. The vast majority of people in our society who are deconditioned would see tremendous change with a basic cardio and resistance program and reasonable eating. Alternate an hour of weight training and a half-hour of cardio daily, and you can maintain a basic level of fitness. Cut the crap in the Average American’s diet by half and replace it with useful food intake, and you'd see dramatic improvements without any significant deprivation.
I don't really like running, but I do it. Lifting is a social event with a couple of friends. I invest maybe 10 hours per week in working out, and manage to score in the top fifth percentile for my age group in physical fitness. So no, you don't have to invest a lot of money or a lot of time to see the benefits of basic physical fitness.
After my endocrine lectures in paramedic training, I basically cut soda out of my diet. There is a direct correlation between the average amount of soda intake and the rise in diabetes in our society. Nowadays I have soda around twice a month instead of twice a day like I used to. Replaced it with iced tea, and promptly lost 10 pounds just doing that.
One of the saddest and funniest things I ever saw was a massively, morbidly obese man at a gunshow wearing a 'survival of the fittest' t-shirt.
spacemanspiff
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dont worry about it saxon. he just doesnt have the sense of humor that we do. just one of the perks we enjoy: being jolly.
Dannyboy
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Here's something to remember: Being in good shape isn't always the same as being in good condition. I know skinny guys that can't run a mile without looking like they're gonna die. And I know "fat" guys that, while they're considered overweight, they can run faster and further than people half their weight. Just thought I'd throw that in there.
Duncan Idaho
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What sort of nonsense are you gibbering on about?
Here is a clue for you: don't touch me in a threating way, don't threaten with/brandish a weapon at me, don't try to throw a punch at me. Get it?
Anything I do after you violate the above common sense and courtesy rules, you had coming in spades.
Somebody wants to start a fight with me, they are the ones being irresponsible. It isn't my job to help them play out their puerile fantasies.
Simple fistfight? What do you think this is, a John Wayne movie?
What nonsense.
Jayman
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I was actually considering this very issue a few months ago. I had taken a practical rifle/carbine class, and of course the very fiendish instructors had us running in various parts of it. While I wasn't last, I certainly wasn't first, and even short bouts of running had me a lot more winded than I thought they should've.
I don't advocate that everyone be super physically fit. God knows that I am not, although I probably fall into that big wide nebulous expanse known as "acceptable."
Since said class, I've made it a priority to get in the gym at least a few times a week. My job is not conducive to activity, I jockey a desk, so it behooves me to do some work on a treadmill, elliptical, do some weights, and perhaps go walking/hiking when the opportunity presents itself.
Basically I consider it weapons maintenance, like cleaning and inspecting your guns. The best rifle in the world won't do crap if the platform it is shooting from is faulty. I'm not so worried about "tacticality," but I do worry about my ability to take care of business, should business present itself. (Sneaky little bugger, that "business.")
I don't advocate that everyone be super physically fit. God knows that I am not, although I probably fall into that big wide nebulous expanse known as "acceptable."
Since said class, I've made it a priority to get in the gym at least a few times a week. My job is not conducive to activity, I jockey a desk, so it behooves me to do some work on a treadmill, elliptical, do some weights, and perhaps go walking/hiking when the opportunity presents itself.
Basically I consider it weapons maintenance, like cleaning and inspecting your guns. The best rifle in the world won't do crap if the platform it is shooting from is faulty. I'm not so worried about "tacticality," but I do worry about my ability to take care of business, should business present itself. (Sneaky little bugger, that "business.")
bogie
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Hey, you guys may think that some of us are paranoid, but...
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/nycu/health/articles/030714/14diabetes.htm
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/nycu/health/articles/030714/14diabetes.htm
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