ole farmerbuck
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I dont see why it will be so long before a place like Midway gets any in. Its like the factories have just shut down for a while.
is .22LR in Stock Anywhere?
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Been doing exactly this. Guess what? I, and one friend, are the only people I know who can actually go shoot right now! If people weren't so short-sighted, there likely wouldn't be a run on ANYTHING right now.
Skylerbone
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Companies like MidWay will generally accept back orders for regular items. When availability becomes less predictable they will change stock to no back order while continuing to fill their backlog of back orders with any stock that ships. Who knows how much was back ordered or how close they are to fulfilling those commitments. IOW, no one can reasonably predict when it will once again become available.
Again, who's to say anyone is hoarding rather than shooting? This backstabbing of fellow buyers reminds me of anti-gun folks claiming only some people need firearms and we all need limits. I've got plenty because I prepared long ago. I passed a dozen boxes of Federal .223 sitting on the shelf more than a month ago knowing full well that it would be the last seen locally for some time. Figured someone who needed it now would be free to buy it or not. Same with the hundreds of bulk packs of .22lr that were sitting there looking lonely but perhaps all of you just recently bought .22 cal. firearms???
Again, who's to say anyone is hoarding rather than shooting? This backstabbing of fellow buyers reminds me of anti-gun folks claiming only some people need firearms and we all need limits. I've got plenty because I prepared long ago. I passed a dozen boxes of Federal .223 sitting on the shelf more than a month ago knowing full well that it would be the last seen locally for some time. Figured someone who needed it now would be free to buy it or not. Same with the hundreds of bulk packs of .22lr that were sitting there looking lonely but perhaps all of you just recently bought .22 cal. firearms???
BSA1
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Not untill these damn hoarders quit stockpiling for the apocolypse. Give it up already.
Yep! They are giving Preppers a bad name.
Yep! They are giving Preppers a bad name.
JohnBT
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Bass Pro had some small bulk boxes last Monday and there wasn't any feeding frenzy. I stood next to the display for 15 or 20 minutes talking to a guy and only saw one box purchased.
I didn't need any either.
John
I didn't need any either.
John
Do you have any suggestions on what might have caused such an increase in .22 LR target shooting in the last month that has caused widespread shortages across the entire nation? Is there a new and popular league that we are all missing?
It's pretty obvious that it's hoarding behavior.
We had "normal" behavior prior to this episode...and in a normal market there is plenty of supply because people buy as they need it and it gets replaced on the shelves quickly.
We now have people buying years or lifetime supplies (i.e. hoarding) which is why the shelves are all empty. There is plenty of hoarding going on.
That said...people have a right to spend their money however they wish...if they want to be panicky sheep who stock up on a lifetime supply of .22 LR because politicians are talking about a ban on 30 round mags and .223 semi-auto rifles...so be it.
Skylerbone
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Do you recall what happened to all the fuel efficient cars that sat on lots while the army of SUVs, Vipers and Corvettes rumbled by once gasoline hit $4.00 a gallon? Are you suggesting people were hoarding Civics? They bought what was cheap. Cars that sat unwanted months earlier became hot commodities in a market driven by price.
You want to shoot 200 rounds? Buy a less popular caliber. I've got a 12 gauge, two cannon boxes of shells for it and a sit down trap thrower for it, you think I won't be shooting? Thousands of round for my 9mms, my 40 S&W, my AR, my 30-06s and my .22s. I made it and I shoot it. Sorry you didn't do the same. Maybe take your wives to Walmart at 7AM and be the early birds that get 6 boxes...if you don't think that's hoarding...
It took more than an hour, more than a day for most shelves to be bare. Where have you been living?
You want to shoot 200 rounds? Buy a less popular caliber. I've got a 12 gauge, two cannon boxes of shells for it and a sit down trap thrower for it, you think I won't be shooting? Thousands of round for my 9mms, my 40 S&W, my AR, my 30-06s and my .22s. I made it and I shoot it. Sorry you didn't do the same. Maybe take your wives to Walmart at 7AM and be the early birds that get 6 boxes...if you don't think that's hoarding...
It took more than an hour, more than a day for most shelves to be bare. Where have you been living?
Hardtarget
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Right now I'm working out of a 500 round box purchased in '09. It will take me a while to get to the box I picked up last August...as there are several to go through! 
When I shoot through a box, I buy two to replace it. I never know when several of us will blow through a whole box just plinking and chatting. We do have fun with the .22's.
Mark
When I shoot through a box, I buy two to replace it. I never know when several of us will blow through a whole box just plinking and chatting. We do have fun with the .22's.
Mark
Skylerbone, I work at a gun store, it literally takes hours if that for our shelves to go bare..... we get in our next truck tomorrow, if it takes pictures to prove it I can take them stocked at 6am and then at 10am when we open as well as 11am when we are sold out.....
A day? I wish. As I have said already in this thread we sell 10k+ rounds within a half hour.
A day? I wish. As I have said already in this thread we sell 10k+ rounds within a half hour.
Skylerbone
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Understood RR but what I'm saying is that many stores had ammo a available for days or weeks after every forum on the net declared panic. That and guys who've owned rimfire firearms for years or decades ought to have taken a half hour at some point during that time to stock up a bit if they never bothered to do so sooner.
Now that guys who were shooting other calibers two months ago have switched to .22lr to save money or because other calibers are in short supply, more stress than has ever been witnessed is placed on .22lr supplies. How some decide all others buying ammo are scum of the Earth hoarders because ammo does not sit on the shelf for convenient pick up shows a contempt toward others.
What I'm saying is that you can't complain about what you didn't buy at the auction if you never bothered to bid and still garner sympathy from me. You know why batteries disappear from store shelves before a storm? Because everyone needs batteries but so few bother to prepare beforehand. If everyone bought twice as many batteries all the time, industry would increase production and retailers would increase stock and storms would come and go. If bottled water disappeared tomorrow I'd still be drinking it months from now.
Now that guys who were shooting other calibers two months ago have switched to .22lr to save money or because other calibers are in short supply, more stress than has ever been witnessed is placed on .22lr supplies. How some decide all others buying ammo are scum of the Earth hoarders because ammo does not sit on the shelf for convenient pick up shows a contempt toward others.
What I'm saying is that you can't complain about what you didn't buy at the auction if you never bothered to bid and still garner sympathy from me. You know why batteries disappear from store shelves before a storm? Because everyone needs batteries but so few bother to prepare beforehand. If everyone bought twice as many batteries all the time, industry would increase production and retailers would increase stock and storms would come and go. If bottled water disappeared tomorrow I'd still be drinking it months from now.
Heck, I had not realized there was an ammo shortage going on until this weekend. Spent a saturday working through a few hundred rounds of 9mm on my cz75b and my walther pps and thought I would pick up some of my carry ammo - the shelves on our three main stores in our burg were empty, for the most part. I have plenty of reloading supplies so the nines/45 acp/.357 I am good to go, but my .22 supply is a little lower than I would like. Should have been doing what I promised I would do - buy a brick or two a month. This time I hope to have learned my lesson, particularly if I get my 1022 this week as hoped.
Hopefully after this all dies down (if it does) the next time around we won't have many HighRoader's complaining about not having ammo to shoot. It doesn't hurt to keep a few months of ammo, especially 22 on hand so you can keep shooting when the supply chain gets clogged.
GlockFan
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I knew I should've picked up more boxes of federal bulk pack in December of 2011. Gander Mountain had them for $14.99 each. I only grabbed 2.
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LubeckTech
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The expected delivery dates for backordered .22LR on a site that was taking back orders was may thru July depending on brand. I saw a case of 10 Federal Bulk Packs go for $681.00 plus shipping
on GunBroker recently.
on GunBroker recently.
sixgunner455
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Went to a Big 5 for their weekly ammo shipment with a friend from work to pick him up some .22, and stood in line waiting for them to unload it for 45 min. Was kind of surreal.
Especially since they got 8 50rd boxes of .22 ratshot, and 2 1k rd boxes of Winchester .22LR, and that was all the rimfire ammo on that truck. They got a bunch of other stuff, but that was it for .22.
We were 3rd in line. Guess who didn't get any .22? Everybody behind person #2.
I gave him a box of .22lr out of my stash and went back to work.
Especially since they got 8 50rd boxes of .22 ratshot, and 2 1k rd boxes of Winchester .22LR, and that was all the rimfire ammo on that truck. They got a bunch of other stuff, but that was it for .22.
We were 3rd in line. Guess who didn't get any .22? Everybody behind person #2.
I gave him a box of .22lr out of my stash and went back to work.
OpelBlitz
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Walmart has pretty much nothing but .22, .40S&We, and 12ga. Everywhere else around here has a pretty good assortment of ammunition except .223.
Grunt
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Years ago when the Klintonista regieme roamed the earth, I started stocking up on ammo to include .22LR a box or two every month. Over the years I think I at one time was up to somewhere around 20K rounds of bulk ammo. Who was the butt of many a joke about being ready for WWIII and what I was going to do with all that ammo and why I needed all that ammo and so on. Well, who's having the last laugh now?
It wasn't expensive to build up those quantities over time especially when prices were much lower. Rather than paying $60 for 500 rounds, I still have bulk boxes of 550 rounds that are still sporting $9.95 price tags. As I fire off that old stock of ammo though, I still keep my eyes open for ammo that is available at normal prices. If I find it, I buy some more to replace the ammo I shot. If I don't, I won't pay through the nose for it when I can find it and still have a pretty healthy reserve to fall back on.
As for the whole "horder" accusations, who's fault is it that you were caught with your pants down? Like I pointed out, it wasn't exactly expensive to build up a good rainy day supply for times just like this! For whatever reason, you decided that times were good and lived under the assumption that things would always be easy, happy and trouble free. Want to go shooting, no problem, just stop by Wal-Mart of the local gun shop and pick up a box, right? Bottom line is that your foresight didn't extend past your nose and think that one day like today, this might be a reality. But, it's a lot easier to sit around pouting and crying and saying that anyone that did have a stockpile built up is a horder than to man up and admit that you screwed the pooch by not preparing for these days. One of these days, God only knows when, things might settle down, ammo is back in stock and not at unrealistic prices. Are you going to use today as a learning experience and actually start doing the same thing some of us have been doing for years or are you going to be the one to slip right back into your old routine until the next hard time comes around and you are screaming "horder" at those that did learn from this experience? Hey, right now you're screwed and there's no debate about that. During the good times you spent your money on other things and now you are paying the price for it. Might do you some good to check out what the ants and grasshoppers have to say about all this.
http://www.aesopfables.com/cgi/aesop1.cgi?sel&TheAntandtheGrasshopper&&antgrass.ram
It wasn't expensive to build up those quantities over time especially when prices were much lower. Rather than paying $60 for 500 rounds, I still have bulk boxes of 550 rounds that are still sporting $9.95 price tags. As I fire off that old stock of ammo though, I still keep my eyes open for ammo that is available at normal prices. If I find it, I buy some more to replace the ammo I shot. If I don't, I won't pay through the nose for it when I can find it and still have a pretty healthy reserve to fall back on.As for the whole "horder" accusations, who's fault is it that you were caught with your pants down? Like I pointed out, it wasn't exactly expensive to build up a good rainy day supply for times just like this! For whatever reason, you decided that times were good and lived under the assumption that things would always be easy, happy and trouble free. Want to go shooting, no problem, just stop by Wal-Mart of the local gun shop and pick up a box, right? Bottom line is that your foresight didn't extend past your nose and think that one day like today, this might be a reality. But, it's a lot easier to sit around pouting and crying and saying that anyone that did have a stockpile built up is a horder than to man up and admit that you screwed the pooch by not preparing for these days. One of these days, God only knows when, things might settle down, ammo is back in stock and not at unrealistic prices. Are you going to use today as a learning experience and actually start doing the same thing some of us have been doing for years or are you going to be the one to slip right back into your old routine until the next hard time comes around and you are screaming "horder" at those that did learn from this experience? Hey, right now you're screwed and there's no debate about that. During the good times you spent your money on other things and now you are paying the price for it. Might do you some good to check out what the ants and grasshoppers have to say about all this.
http://www.aesopfables.com/cgi/aesop1.cgi?sel&TheAntandtheGrasshopper&&antgrass.ram
Good post Grunt. The only ones I feel sorry for are the people who for whatever reason were never exposed to the sport of shooting and are just now looking to get started. If a newbie wants to start shooting I may let him dip into my bulk pack. To everyone else, I hope you learn from this.
Yes,good post Grunt.
I too started buying after prices receded after the 2008 diaster and since my political barometer keeps telling me to keep buying when decent deals come forth I have now a sizable inventory and vow to keep it that way.
Sorry for those caught off guard by this political blizzard we are now in.
If the results of November 2008 didn't get through to you and the same scenario that just occured after this past election then nothing is ever going to.
I too started buying after prices receded after the 2008 diaster and since my political barometer keeps telling me to keep buying when decent deals come forth I have now a sizable inventory and vow to keep it that way.
Sorry for those caught off guard by this political blizzard we are now in.
If the results of November 2008 didn't get through to you and the same scenario that just occured after this past election then nothing is ever going to.
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Nothing. I'm paying nothing for .22 as I haven't found any for sale. I ordered a brick of match .22 for its normal price (about twice what I would pay for any normal bulk .22) a few weeks ago, but I have yet to even have that charge hit my card, so I don't know when or if to expect it.
I bought several bricks from grafs a few weeks ago at about $18. Armscor brand but they don't show it any more. I saw an LGS with Remington Golden for $28 last week and they may have had 5 boxes. $28 for Remington Golden?
I probably have 10k rounds of .22 but we can shoot it mighty quick once the weather gets a litle nicer and hunting season ends.
I was able to procure 2k rounds of .223 this week as well from a friend that bought $75k worth from an importer at a phenomenal price and needs to recoup some of the investment.
I probably have 10k rounds of .22 but we can shoot it mighty quick once the weather gets a litle nicer and hunting season ends.
I was able to procure 2k rounds of .223 this week as well from a friend that bought $75k worth from an importer at a phenomenal price and needs to recoup some of the investment.
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