Is Alliant still in business?

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CoalCrackerAl said:
Maybe he found it stashed in his storage room. They did close a few days for a re-org. He did move a lot of innovatory from his former store. Im a happy camper i got the powders.
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Likely overstock from tail end of last shortage when supply caught up in 2018/19.

When I finally finished my 8 lb container of Bullseye that was decades old in recent years, I was still happy with the performance and I would not hesitate to use Bullseye container dated 2016 (Although I would use that container before other containers with newer production date).
 
LiveLife said:
Likely overstock from tail end of last shortage when supply caught up in 2018/19.

When I finally finished my 8 lb container of Bullseye that was decades old in recent years, I was still happy with the performance and I would not hesitate to use Bullseye container dated 2016 (Although I would use that container before other containers with newer production date).
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Oh, heck yes! I was given a cardboard can of Hercules Unique by a fellow down the road who gave up on reloading. I can tell a little difference in my .357 loads by the amount and kind of graphite inhibitor on the flakes but, other than that little bit of extra smudge on the forcing cone, it's the same as the Alliant bottle I bought a couple of years ago.:)
 
Alliant Reloading said:
Thank you to those that buy our powders.
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Thank you for responding to this thread with real information.

I've pretty much switched completely over to various newer Alliant powders (BE-86, Sport Pistol, e3) over the last few years and have brought several reloading/shooting buddies along with me...no one has any complaints. I stocked up before the current shortages, mostly because I've never understood buy in smaller containers than 8lb jugs and always bought at least two jugs to split the HazMat fees...luckily there are enough of us that we haven't had to build powder magazines yet ;)
 
Thomasss said:
I contacted Alliant and they said they are shipping to 30 distributors nationwide on a regular basis. They sell according to oldest order first.
And they would not give out any more info than that. Who their products are sold to is up to the distributors. I personally bought some Bullseye a few months ago and have seen Unique and 20/28 available on a few web sites.
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Shipping to distributors may not be the same as shipping direct to ammo manufacturers. I think we get what's left, which isn't much.
 
I but a 1lb to try a new powder. If i like it. Then ill buy a jug. I buy mine local. My LGS prices are on par with on line prices. The 1lb of B.D was a gift so im not going to complain because they didn't get a 8lb lol. The price tag was 19.95 not to shabby.
 
Virginia Jim said:
Some Alliant powders are made on the Radford Army ammunition plant site just over the mountain from me. At one time, employees of RAAP could buy powder at a discount, but they have discontinued that benefit. If I see a friend that works there, I will ask about the current situation with production.

https://www.baesystems.com/en-us/product/radford-army-ammunition-plant
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On one of my earlier post's I mentioned a jinormus powder & ammo storage facility in Nevada, U.S. 95 passes thru about the middle of it. Had a reefer 53' load of frozen vegetables to be delivered there, whilst being unloaded I asked the officer in charge of the proceedings if they ever sold surplus powders, his answer was yes, but only in 100,000 lbs lots, both rifle and pistol powders. If enough of us went together, pooling our money, possibleably bidding on a 100,000 lb lot??? Just a thought??
 
RealGun said:
Since reloading supply companies are not so forthcoming about the availability situation, it leaves an opening for speculation. It seems logical that supplies are dedicated to the support of the most popular semi-auto pistol and rifle ammunition. A major part of that could be the millions of rounds that government agencies ordered a few years back. That is not military, so I figure civilian supplies could be significantly impacted, if not interrupted. Somebody will be along thinking they know better, but what we think we know doesn't add up.
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Everything I have heard, read, talked to, concerning primers, powders, bullets, cartridge cases manufacturing companies are working 24/7 and still can't meet the demand. Although I was in Bi-Mart in The Dalles, Oregon last week and their ammo shelves, long empty were filled full of ammo. Big problem, I was at Cabela's in Boise, Idaho when a 53' van backed up to the dock and a forklift started unloading PALLETS of .223 ammo, two hours ( ?? ) Later it was ALL GONE. Both men & women were buying several cases at a time, people with DEEP POCKETS are hoarding supplies, ROYALING SCREWING the rest of us, haven't reloaded in 12 months, NO PRIMERS.
 
Mr_Flintstone said:
Thanks! I finally got some more 2400. I hated to pay hazmat on just 1 can of powder, but it’s just not available anywhere else.
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When I find the powder I need for mail order, I get at least 4 pounds to justify HAZMAT. If limited to one pound, no deal, I'll wait, thank you. If all the same powder and more than I expect to use, I am free to share it with local folks looking for powder. I just did this a couple months ago, restocking Extralite, when it popped up on Powder Valley.
 
Seems like Alliant is still mostly MIA. PV had Red Dot briefly but other than that, their production must be going to something other than retail loose powders. Such a shame but, at least WW and AA are still shipping in quantity.
 
Charlie98 said:
I've got about 10# of Unique to last me... until Alliant sells out to Hodgdon.
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That would be uncool. Having only one owner of everything would suck. If alliant made primer that would be the best because to my knowledge they dont make oem ammunition, so in hard times would still provide to the hand/reloaders.
 
Keyfer 55 said:
Were not at war anymore. There are no reason for a powder or primer shortage.
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Consider that over 100 million guns were sold in the past decade and around 10 million guns just past year likely mostly to new gun owners.

This demand increase is historic high never before seen (Many gun stores reported they sold more guns the past several years than all the guns they sold previously since they opened COMBINED!!!) and since ammunition is consumable, demand will simply continue increasing, especially for popular calibers. (During 2020, I could not believe the packed BLM shooting spots where we actually had to wait 2-3 cars before we could shoot, even during midweek. And almost all the brass I found were factory new brass, much to the joy of reloaders.)

So while there are existing military and law enforcement contracts for ammunition, retail side demand will continue to strain the existing production capacity.

Think about this.

Most of us who have stock piled ammunition and reloading components are using up our stock. So even when production capacity catches up and primers and powder return back on the shelves at more reasonable prices, what will happen next?

That's right, we will start stock piling again like there's no tomorrow. ;)

Mike L. said:
Just sent them an email asking if powders will ever be available again. Will advise if I get a cogent reply.
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My guess is, as CEO of Vista Outdoor already stated (Vista Outdoor owns Alliant/CCI/Federal, etc. and just bought Remington ammunition), that they are making as much powder and primers as fast as they can. :)
 
Bartletts has a powder that you use Unique data bought and loaded some but haven't got to shoot them yet. I does meter better given it a fine ball powder.
 
Charlie98 said:
until Alliant sells out to Hodgdon.
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Alliant is part of Vista Outdoor which used to be ATK (Alliant Tech Systems) which owns CCI, Federal, Speer, Alliant, etc. and now Remington ammunition operations.

While Hodgdon continues to grow after buying IMR and recently buying Ramshot and Accurate powders, to me, it is highly unlikely Alliant would be sold to Hodgdon as Vista Outdoor probably experienced record setting revenue/profits.

And where powders are/were made and sourced could also explain why IMR/Ramshot/Accurate were sold to Hodgdon - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...g-components-made.577067/page-4#post-10297475
 
Here's the answer I got from Alliant:

We are making, packing and shipping all of our propellants on regular schedule.


Alliant does not ship any of our propellants direct to the consumer.


I am unable to tell you directly where any of the propellant are going though. We only ship and sell to our distributors. We have 30 of these we sell to. The distributors then only deal with and sell to their dealers/retailers and wholesalers. They only deal with these folks no one else.


We work off from a backorder system where whoever is at the top of the list, there the longest, will get product first. We are told that the distributors also work off from the same system.


Distributors are not limited to a zone. In other words, they can sell and ship to anyone anywhere in the country.


Once we ship the distributor, we have no clue as to whom the next recipient of that propellant.


All we can tell you is keep diligent in your search for our propellants.


Duane V. /Technical Service Representative

2299 Snake River Ave.

Lewiston, ID 83501

Alliant/Blazer/CCI/Speer

866-286-7436

I think I smell bs somewhere.....oh, it's at Alliant!l
 
Mike L. said:
We are making, packing and shipping all of our propellants on regular schedule.

Alliant does not ship any of our propellants direct to the consumer.

We work off from a backorder system where whoever is at the top of the list, there the longest, will get product first.
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Could be what's happening with all the powder manufacturers.

Like many previous component shortages, I believe it's simply "supply and demand" at play.

Be patient and things will become more in stock and at lower prices, just like previous component shortages. In the meantime, keep saving up money to stock up when prices are at the "new" bottom.
 
LiveLife said:
Could be what's happening with all the powder manufacturers.

Like many previous component shortages, I believe it's simply "supply and demand" at play.

Be patient and things will become more in stock and at lower prices, just like previous component shortages. In the meantime, keep saving up money to stock up when prices are at the "new" bottom.
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If demand is the issue it will never correct with the 10 million guns. It is more profitable to keep the customer wanting. I'll be happy if this thing is fixed by the first year of the new administration at best. That's based on the transportation issue.
 
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