CoalCrackerAl
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Maybe he found it stashed in his storage room. They did close a few days for a re-org. He did move a lot of innovatory from his former store. Im a happy camper i got the powders.
Likely overstock from tail end of last shortage when supply caught up in 2018/19.Maybe he found it stashed in his storage room. They did close a few days for a re-org. He did move a lot of innovatory from his former store. Im a happy camper i got the powders.
Oh, heck yes! I was given a cardboard can of Hercules Unique by a fellow down the road who gave up on reloading. I can tell a little difference in my .357 loads by the amount and kind of graphite inhibitor on the flakes but, other than that little bit of extra smudge on the forcing cone, it's the same as the Alliant bottle I bought a couple of years ago.Likely overstock from tail end of last shortage when supply caught up in 2018/19.
When I finally finished my 8 lb container of Bullseye that was decades old in recent years, I was still happy with the performance and I would not hesitate to use Bullseye container dated 2016 (Although I would use that container before other containers with newer production date).
Thank you for responding to this thread with real information.Thank you to those that buy our powders.
Shipping to distributors may not be the same as shipping direct to ammo manufacturers. I think we get what's left, which isn't much.I contacted Alliant and they said they are shipping to 30 distributors nationwide on a regular basis. They sell according to oldest order first.
And they would not give out any more info than that. Who their products are sold to is up to the distributors. I personally bought some Bullseye a few months ago and have seen Unique and 20/28 available on a few web sites.
On one of my earlier post's I mentioned a jinormus powder & ammo storage facility in Nevada, U.S. 95 passes thru about the middle of it. Had a reefer 53' load of frozen vegetables to be delivered there, whilst being unloaded I asked the officer in charge of the proceedings if they ever sold surplus powders, his answer was yes, but only in 100,000 lbs lots, both rifle and pistol powders. If enough of us went together, pooling our money, possibleably bidding on a 100,000 lb lot??? Just a thought??Some Alliant powders are made on the Radford Army ammunition plant site just over the mountain from me. At one time, employees of RAAP could buy powder at a discount, but they have discontinued that benefit. If I see a friend that works there, I will ask about the current situation with production.
https://www.baesystems.com/en-us/product/radford-army-ammunition-plant
Everything I have heard, read, talked to, concerning primers, powders, bullets, cartridge cases manufacturing companies are working 24/7 and still can't meet the demand. Although I was in Bi-Mart in The Dalles, Oregon last week and their ammo shelves, long empty were filled full of ammo. Big problem, I was at Cabela's in Boise, Idaho when a 53' van backed up to the dock and a forklift started unloading PALLETS of .223 ammo, two hours ( ?? ) Later it was ALL GONE. Both men & women were buying several cases at a time, people with DEEP POCKETS are hoarding supplies, ROYALING SCREWING the rest of us, haven't reloaded in 12 months, NO PRIMERS.Since reloading supply companies are not so forthcoming about the availability situation, it leaves an opening for speculation. It seems logical that supplies are dedicated to the support of the most popular semi-auto pistol and rifle ammunition. A major part of that could be the millions of rounds that government agencies ordered a few years back. That is not military, so I figure civilian supplies could be significantly impacted, if not interrupted. Somebody will be along thinking they know better, but what we think we know doesn't add up.
Thanks! I finally got some more 2400. I hated to pay hazmat on just 1 can of powder, but it’s just not available anywhere else.THEY'RE BACK!
Half a dozen Alliant powders at Powder Valley!
https://www.powdervalleyinc.com/pro...smokeless-powder/?filter_brand=alliant-powder
It's not much but some favorites are there - 2400, Bullseye, AR Comp, Unique! - which are welcome sights for sore eyes!
When I find the powder I need for mail order, I get at least 4 pounds to justify HAZMAT. If limited to one pound, no deal, I'll wait, thank you. If all the same powder and more than I expect to use, I am free to share it with local folks looking for powder. I just did this a couple months ago, restocking Extralite, when it popped up on Powder Valley.Thanks! I finally got some more 2400. I hated to pay hazmat on just 1 can of powder, but it’s just not available anywhere else.
They do that to protect us from the bulk buyers. PV is a first rate company.Powder Valley is tricking out Federal AR Match SRP and SPM primers
https://www.powdervalleyinc.com/product-category/reloading-supplies/primers/
They do that to protect us from the bulk buyers. PV is a first rate company.
That would be uncool. Having only one owner of everything would suck. If alliant made primer that would be the best because to my knowledge they dont make oem ammunition, so in hard times would still provide to the hand/reloaders.I've got about 10# of Unique to last me... until Alliant sells out to Hodgdon.
Consider that over 100 million guns were sold in the past decade and around 10 million guns just past year likely mostly to new gun owners.Were not at war anymore. There are no reason for a powder or primer shortage.
My guess is, as CEO of Vista Outdoor already stated (Vista Outdoor owns Alliant/CCI/Federal, etc. and just bought Remington ammunition), that they are making as much powder and primers as fast as they can.Just sent them an email asking if powders will ever be available again. Will advise if I get a cogent reply.
Alliant is part of Vista Outdoor which used to be ATK (Alliant Tech Systems) which owns CCI, Federal, Speer, Alliant, etc. and now Remington ammunition operations.until Alliant sells out to Hodgdon.
Could be what's happening with all the powder manufacturers.We are making, packing and shipping all of our propellants on regular schedule.
Alliant does not ship any of our propellants direct to the consumer.
We work off from a backorder system where whoever is at the top of the list, there the longest, will get product first.
If demand is the issue it will never correct with the 10 million guns. It is more profitable to keep the customer wanting. I'll be happy if this thing is fixed by the first year of the new administration at best. That's based on the transportation issue.Could be what's happening with all the powder manufacturers.
Like many previous component shortages, I believe it's simply "supply and demand" at play.
Be patient and things will become more in stock and at lower prices, just like previous component shortages. In the meantime, keep saving up money to stock up when prices are at the "new" bottom.