Is doggy door truly a safety risk?

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I would Love to see an intruder greet my dog about Mmmmmmm 3/4's of the way through the door.
Now imagine she wakes up... all 95 lbs of angry nap deprived Doberman and finds you in a rather vulnerable position!!!!!...Gee I hope he comes in feet first.
Would love to see this on YouTube
 
Yeah. Somehow I don't see a submissive Black Lab rescue dog ripping someone's face off.
:)

I'm currently the defense in the family, and I feel like I'm still going to be when we get her. (We pick her up tomorrow)
 
IIRC about 20 years ago a story was going round about a burglar who tried to get in a doggy door of a feisty little old lady. When the cops arrived the burglar was 2/3 of the way in the house with the little old lady holding a pistol in one hand and a drink in the other BEGGING the guy to move.
 
Hey just FYI when run by my friends house to check on dog and things for him
he locks all doors and leaves me no key cause he knows how i get in.

I JUST REACH UP THE DOGGY DOOR AND UNLOCK THE DOOR

id say that's a security breach, he doesn't care even though i give em a hard time
as for me im not worried my dogs stay outside where they belong
 
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It can be somewhat of a risk.
 
As others have pointed out, a doggy door is indeed a security risk, but unless you've got a strong door to begin with and reinforce the jamb, it's a lot easier to simply kick the door open. Not that I've tried this myself, but based on demonstrations I've seen, I'm pretty sure that I could bust open a typical residential door with one hard kick. It doesn't matter what lock you use, either, because the thin, soft section of wood that the bolt goes into will give way readily every time unless it is reinforced, at the very least with long screws that go into the "king stud." Like the government, home builders don't care about your actual safety, only that you feel safe and secure based merely on what you can see.
 
Nope, doggie doors in my home are a false invitation. I have a 40lb cattle dog that will defend her turf... and she's slow to turn off even after she knows it was me that woke her up. I then have the big dog, and he is less inviting, and quite possible very capapble of killing someone before I do if he catches them in a doggie door. He's only 85-90 lbs of american staffordshire terrier/ american bull dog with a territorial kick.
 
I'm not familiar with the collar activated doggy doors. Could the dog going to the door to investigate the burgular, actually unlock it for them?
 
We've had a house dog (small schitzu) for 11 years and it's really not that big of a deal to let them in and out. He whines when he wants out, barks when he wants back in.

Easy.
 
I think it's probably a bad idea unless other security measures are added. Think about it...

1x1 foot means the diagonal opening will be dang near 1.5 feet wide. 1.414 if you want to be exact.

Now my shoulders are much wider than a foot and a half... but putting through one arm and head at a time... I weigh right at 150 and I could get probably get in through that.

I'm about to get a 1x1 picture frame and see if I could for sure.
 
I have two extra large dog doors in our house. They're for our two German Shepherd dogs. Nobody has ever tried to break into our home or come in through the dog doors.
 
Dog door = additional risk factor
Big angry dog = risk reduction factor.

If you're going to put in the door, make sure the dog is big enough, and his mood bad enough, to balance out the risk equation, or even slant it in your favor.

Depends a bit on where you live. It's not necessary to lock the door where I live, so it's not like a dog door would be a factor for me (my dogs have never been allowed in the house anyway).
 
3Ben, do not do it!

I'm 5'10", 150 lbs, wide shoulders and not flexible at all, and I just slid a 12"x12" picture frame down my entire body!

I'm not a big guy by any means, but I'm not overly skinny either...and remember, plenty of thugs are in their teens and lanky. I'd say that doggy door is a DEFINITE security risk.

As everyone knows, someone who really wants to get in, will get in. But with that door, any random punk who's not chunky around the middle could easily get in while you're at work. And I've got a lab too, and she barks at visitors twice and then goes over with tail wagging hoping for a belly rub.

Even the ones with the electronic collar are easily fooled by even the least motivated burglar. I could stand outside the doggy door when you aren't home and whistle, dog comes close to the door and trips the sensor. Bingo.... Or if the dog stays outside, simply call Fido over and take his collar off. Hold it next to the door and you're inside in 30 seconds. Easy.

All your neighborhood teenagers that don't have the balls to break a window are going to take notice of this weakness. They'll be thinking, "I can break in, steal a few smaller things every once in a while and he'll just think he misplaced them."

And the REAL criminals are thinking, "I can get in silently at night while they're asleep... That 16 year old daughter sure is developing nicely..."

By the way, my dad(who lives alone) had an incident with some neighborhood kids similar to the other scenario. He kept misplacing small amounts of money. Then he lost his cell phone when he thought he left it on the counter while he went to work. The cell phone bill showed he bought rap ringtones before he cut the phone off. Then he came back one night and noticed a root beer opened on the kitchen counter... he hates root beer and only buys them for when I visit...

The night of the mystery root beer, he was videotaping a History Channel show with the VCR while he was out. When he went to watch it, halfway through the show the TV started flipping through the channels and settled on the movie "Drumline." They changed the channel back after their movie was over.

Needless to say he realized what was going on and battened down the hatches. He noticed one of the back windows didn't lock properly while he was securing his place. We aren't sure it was neighborhood kids, but if it had been an adult, they would've taken the TV, computer, his prescriptions... and...ALL HIS GUNS! And that's only if they hadn't shot him first! After the police came to take prints off the root beer bottle, and after that window was secured, the problems ended. My guess is that the whole neighborhood noticed the police cars and the young thug(s) got a little nervous.

Any young local thugs will DEFINITELY exploit the doggy door... they know how many cars will be gone when no one is home, they know your routines, they know your dog doesn't bite, they very well might have even been inside already... invited by YOU! Don't be paranoid, but they already know everything they need to know! Plus, if you catch them in your yard, they'll have a plausible denial because they're your freaking neighbors!
 
we had a run of doggy door thefts in our small subdivision............... in the mid eighties. They are definitely a top option for thieves mostly. More malicious crooks will just kick in the door. I recommend the strikemaster II jamb reinforcer, and NO doggy door. Sucks for convenience' sake but what can you do, some people just suck
 
If it can't be locked and the dog keeps losing his key....

There was a program on TV a few years ago that had two ex burglars breaking in to houses with the owners permission to show the security faults.

They said 99% of the time dogs are not a problem. He broke into a house with 2 big dogs the owners swore wouldn't let anyone in. He dropped to nice raw steaks on the floor and the dogs let him right in. After they eat the steaks the burglar was petting them as they followed him around the house wagging their tails.

Yeah the dog may bark. He may even attack if you're home. If you're not don't count on the dog unless he's packin'. The dog will be doing his check list....burglar...meat...burglar..... meat ..eeemmmm

They break into houses with alarm systems. Banking on police response time.
 
There was a program on TV a few years ago that had two ex burglars breaking in to houses with the owners permission to show the security faults.

I remember that show. It always amused me that the two cat burglar types would sneak all around the house probing security, then calmly explain to the homeowner "Your biggest mistake was leaving the 2nd floor bathroom window open," or some other such nonsense. Then, the next night they'd come back, the window would be closed and the doors locked, and the burglars would be all "Good job homeowner, you really foiled my attempt. Nice work!"

When in reality, any determined thug with a brick and a sturdy boot can smash & grab his way into 90% of the homes on earth, regardless of whether the doors & windows are secure or not. IMO, that show did more to promote a false sense of security than anything else I've seen in recent television.

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Sgt R - I saw a show like that. The thief grabbed the neighbors ladder out of the back yard and put it through the sliding glass door. The show is called it takes a thief.
 
you can always do what a neighbor of mine did and disguise the door with a dog house or a pile of wood and other seemingly discarded stuff. theirs went into the side of the house away from the doors. to my knowledge they never got robbed.
 
I had a smaller cat door... to the garage. Got visited by possum, tom cats that "marked", but thankfully no skunks.

I'd never have one on my house. I'd never allow a cat in my house, and I can train dogs to ask to go out.
 
you can always do what a neighbor of mine did and disguise the door with a dog house or a pile of wood and other seemingly discarded stuff. theirs went into the side of the house away from the doors. to my knowledge they never got robbed.
Now that's actually a very good point. A disguised doggy door that also doubles as an outdoor doghouse. Human nature would be that they simply wouldn't even look in the doghouse. Nobody really wants to know what's in there. What you could also possibly do is a tunnel style entrance, with autolocking doggy doors on each end. A person might be able to kick in and bypass the first one, but they wouldn't have the leverage to get the second one open in that position.
 
I was going to suggest a hole through the wall instead of through the door, and making it a longish corridor (two feet long is much better than four inches through the wall), but I like the dog house idea better.


One thing to think about is that if you are going to go with a dog house on the door, you'll want to make it as small as possible, and then put a deadbolt on the door that uses a key on both sides. Tiny people might be able to get in, but if you don't, pretty much anyone would be able to reach up and unlock the door.
 
Yeah. Somehow I don't see a submissive Black Lab rescue dog ripping someone's face off.



You quoted that above 3-Ben. I have a chocolate Lab 2 years old and he can be extrememly friendly, but if someone that he does now know comes into our house, he will attack. Just because labs have the preconceived notion that they are calm and happy and friendly all the time they are still animals and can attack.

Oh BTW a doggy door is a terrible idea to train a lab, it gives them way to much freedom and they begin to think that they are the Alpha in the house(IMHO).
 
My neighbor had a dog door years ago. Someone came in thru it --probably some little gangbanger because all that was missing was stupid stuff like video games and such. He didn't realize that the perps also took a spare set of his house keys. A few months later his house got cleaned out pretty good. Plus his little cat would use the door also and come over into my yard. One of my Malamutes killed his cat. He no longer has a dog door.
My job is a wildlife control operator. Raccoons and skunks coming thru dog and cat doors is pretty routine. Even had a coyote once who chased a little poodle and the poodle made it thru the dog door. The coyote stuck his head thru it --grabbed the poodle and that was the end of that dog.
Also had a customer once who had one of those dog doors in a sliding glass door. We were in his back yard checking on wildlife damage. Went to go in thru that sliding door but it was locked. I stuck my arm thru the dog door and reached up and flipped the lever lock and slid the door open. He had a look of surprise on his face LOL.
I don't advise getting a dog door.

edit--almost forgot. I've also had several customers who had rats learn how to use the dog door too.
 
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