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Is it unethical to allow a buyer to price your item in this time of high demand?

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Is it unethical to allow a buyer to price your item in this time of high demand?

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  1. grendelbane

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    I am currently not selling anything. Not mags, rifles, or lower receivers.

    My choice. Now, if some one makes me an offer that I can't refuse, (it can be done, I promise you), I will take it.

    It seems to me that people who complain about "price gouging", (which really doesn't exist), should be willing to sell anything they own at a historically average price. Since they insist they should be able to buy at a historically average price. After all, the buyer is buying a gun, but the seller is buying dollars. Do I need to remind you about how US dollars have depreciated over time?
     
  2. CoRoMo

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    I have to say... posts #13 and #16 were jaw-droppingly profound. Kudos to velojym. I've not read such brilliant posts in a long while. You must have a particularly specialized knowledge of markets and business.
    This illustration is especially sharp! I wholeheartedly agree.
    But this one, I'll need a little more info on. If the shelves were just about to be cleaned off, why does it matter who did the buying or their intent in doing so? Who is the less ethical; the guy that bought the last ones to hoard or the guy who bought the last ones to redistribute?
     
  3. U-235

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    It would not be unethical. You are allowing the buyer to determine the value of the items you are selling. This is simple supply and demand. The market is reflecting the fact that demand has increased while the short term supply has remained constant.
     
  4. horsemen61

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    I don't find it unethical to sell your stuff at whatever price you want. If the price sounds right someone will buy it.
     
  5. Rollis R. Karvellis

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    I, hope you make enough to send your kid's to Harvard, but hopefully you will send them to a school that dose not hate American.

    Just for the record I, have some AK mags, and 7.62 ammo for sale at the LGS for a price some would consider gouging territory, oh well if it don't sell I'll take it home and shoot it myself, or let it sit, or go into the woods start a fire, and let them cook off.
     
  6. k_dawg

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    The only 'corruption' in the transaction is due to the Federal Gov't restricting the free market.
     
  7. crestoncowboy

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    Food, gas during a shortage, plywood during a hurricane, and the like, that's price gouging, if you have a rare car or gun, there's nothing wrong with asking whatever you want.
     
  8. Arkansas Paul

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    If it was a simple case of the suppliers raising prices and the store passing it on to us then all stores would be going up. But they're not. Only a few are.
     
  9. Pismopal

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    There is no such thing as an "outrageous price". When you own something it is up to you to decide what to charge for it and it is the buyer who decides whether to purchase. See how simple that is?
     
  10. JohnBT

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    A gun magazine interviewer once asked Arnold Jewell why his triggers cost so much.

    "They cost what they cost."
     
  11. bushmaster1313

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    Unethical is a gun shop buying an AR today, from a widow who don't know any better, for the price AR's went for two weeks ago.

    Informed buyers and sellers, even if in panic mode, make the world go round, especially with luxury goods.
     
  12. TIMC

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    Don't over think it, if some idiot wants to give you way too much for something you have because they waited way too long to buy then go for it and don't look back.

    In this case; thinking you are unethical is really just feeling sorry for someone who was too lazy to take care of themselves and prepare. IMHO they deserve to get screwed!
     
  13. Pilot

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    Last time I checked nobody was holding a gun to anyone's head to buy stuff at exhorbitant prices. I don't understand why buyers don't just ignore sellers that are asking way too much, but emotions are high, and people want it now, so they pay. It really isn't the seller's fault.
     
  14. wep45

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    we are all big boys and girls......spend your $$ wisely....once there gone they dont come back.
     
  15. RangerHAAF

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    My local dealer who is the Rock River distributor for GA has stopped selling them until he can catch up with his paperwork which is backed up. He said that he has sold $100K worth of ARs(prices are $2000-2500) within the last week. I believe him and that about 85 percent of his floor inventory is gone.
    All of the AKs he had were cleared out quickly for about $1200 each.
     
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  16. 19-3Ben

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    I'm considering selling my SKS-M because I can probably double my investment on it, and then use that money toward some other gun projects I'd like. I don't see anything wrong with it. If someone doesn't want to spend that much I'm not making them. They don't NEED to pay the price that the market currently demands if they don't want to.
     
  17. RangerHAAF

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    I'll bet u could probably get $6-700 dollars probably more if u sold it to a novice.
     
  18. SidRon

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    It's a business strategy and it is not unethical. Some businesses will raise prices and capture short term profits risking that their actions might reduce their customer base if it pisses them off. Other companies may keep prices the same and not take extra profits hoping that their sacrifice will create a more loyal long term customer base. Two different strategies but both are ethical.
     
  19. nwilliams

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    I'm selling an AR stripped lower on GB right now and I started the auction at $200, just about what I paid for it and no reserve. It got 6 bids within 24 hours and is now at almost $450. I don't feel guilty in the least because its worth whatever someone is willing to pay and if they pay more than twice what I did then that's their decision not mine. I don't care how people spend their own money even if its something I'm selling.
     
  20. Analogkid

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    I had a extra New frontier armory Lower I paid $125 when they came out.

    I put it up on a auction site and started the bid at $125 no reserve. Within 20 minutes I had a ton of emails from guys asking for a buy it now price so I put a $450 buy it now price on it.

    45 minutes later it was sold. The Guy Wired the Money to me and wanted it shipped ASAP.

    I had a AK on layaway and $450 is exactly what I owed on it. Hell after the auction I had guys trying to step all over the guy that won it by offering $500+

    I don't feel real bad at all.
     
  21. P5 Guy

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    I thought that was what auctions are all about? See how much a buyer is willing to pay?
     
  22. CoRoMo

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    It is neither ethical or non-ethical to price your property that you choose to sell. It is up to the buyer to decide if they want to pay that price. By the same tokin, selling them at auction with no minimum (or a minimum baased on your cost) is perfectly reasonable.
     
  24. seal

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    its an auction site by design it allows people to set their own prices. It bugs me when stores set ridiculous prices thus driving the panick along further. I also heard employees of stores encouraging people to panick and what not. Never head its time to write your senator etc.

    Just heard a lot of people throwing fuel on the fire.
     
  25. colorado_handgunner

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    No. This is capitalism. They have decided your item has more value to them than the price they bid and pay at auction. The end. :)

    "Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence"
    George Washington

    "A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have,"
    Gerald Ford
     
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