Is JPFO really Jewish?

[Andrewsky]

I have a friend who is a very anti-gun Jewish female. I directed her to JPFO's website and she said it looks like a non-Jewish website. Then she showed me these websites:

People's Exhibit A

People's Exhibit B

People's Exhibit C

Note that jpfo.org is all red in background colors and these are all blue.

What gives?

(Still no reason not to love guns )

 

[meef]

Is the Pope really Catholic?

Details at eleven!

 

[SaMx]

seriously that's her argument? that their background is red instead of blue? I guess THR is the headquarters of the green party then.

 

[Coronach]

Unless there is some secret Jewish HTML manual of which I am unaware, that is the dumbest argument I have heard all week.

Mike

PS And I did hear Lindsey Lohan's "these aren't my pants" defense, so the Limbo Bar is already set pretty low.

 

[jojosdad]

Uh - sounds like she applies the same amount of "logic" to her feelings about guns.
Seriously - get her to read through the site - starting with this part -
"Founded by Jews and initially aimed at educating the Jewish community about the historical evils that Jews have suffered when they have been disarmed, JPFO has always welcomed persons of all religious beliefs who share a common goal of opposing and reversing victim disarmament policies while advancing liberty for all."
and here: http://www.jpfo.org/yaffe1.htm , Some Judaic Sources on the Right to Bear Arms, By Rabbi Shlomo Yaffe
and here: http://www.davidkopel.org/2A/LawRev/The-Torah-and-Self-defense.pdf The Torah and Self Defense by David B. Kopel

 

[Jorg Nysgerrig]

I think the only thing stranger than someone using that logic is someone else making a post asking us if it is valid...

Why don't you ask your friend if the ADL is actually Jewish, they have quite a bit of red on their site as well: http://www.adl.org/

How about this one...

These federal government agencies all have white and blue web sites:
http://www.fbi.gov/
http://www.irs.gov/
http://www.pueblo.gsa.gov/
http://www.whitehouse.gov/

Does that mean that they are all Jewish?

Or does it mean just that the Forest Service is not part of the federal government with their crazy earth tone web site?
http://www.fs.fed.us/

Perhaps it means that the Forest Service is neither part of the federal government nor are they actually Jewish.

 

[71Commander]

It shouldn't matter if it is or not. What I don't understand is the concept of Jews against gun ownership.

 

[Andrewsky]

Yeah I keep telling her she should buy a gun. I told her that political power doesn't come from "non-violent protests" it comes from who has the most riflemen on their side. I also said I've never heard of an owner of a battle rifle being put into a concentration camp.

Her reply: "You're crazy Andrew."

Yeah, I'm a whackjob. Maybe I'm weird.

 

[FourTeeFive]

Have her read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Ghetto_Uprising

It is bizarre how pro-gun Israelis are and how anti-gun many American Jews are. Somehow American Jews have associated themselves somewhat blindly with the far Left and they just follow the whole anti-gun rhetoric.

Whatever happened to the "Never Again" mantra?

 

[Isildur]

On March 18 1938, the Nazis enacted a new, tougher, gun control law. The Nazi Weapons Law (Waffengesetz) ensured that only Nazis and their friends could own or carry weapons, especially handguns. Licenses to sell, own, or carry firearms were required, except for exempted Nazi organizations and officials. Private persons were not exempt, but a Nazi Party Membership Card was proof of political reliability. The Nazi Weapons Law stated that no Jew could be involved in any business involving firearms. On November 11 1938, one day after the SS were unleashed against the Jews, new regulations under the Nazi Weapons Law barred Jews from owning any weapons.

Source

I like you am wondering how any Jew can ever support gun-control again...

 

[PzGren]

Quote:
On March 18 1938, the Nazis enacted a new, tougher, gun control law. The Nazi Weapons Law (Waffengesetz) ensured that only Nazis and their friends could own or carry weapons, especially handguns. Licenses to sell, own, or carry firearms were required, except for exempted Nazi organizations and officials. Private persons were not exempt, but a Nazi Party Membership Card was proof of political reliability. The Nazi Weapons Law stated that no Jew could be involved in any business involving firearms. On November 11 1938, one day after the SS were unleashed against the Jews, new regulations under the Nazi Weapons Law barred Jews from owning any weapons.


Strange that this still is passed around on the internet. The Reichswaffengesetz was the most liberal gun law that Germany ever had.

 

[McCall911]

Hmm...Well, the one I belong to has red and blue:

http://www.rjchq.org/

 

[Andrewsky]

The thing about that is, PZgren, the Jews do exactly what the Nazis did.

In Israel, gun laws depend greatly on race. A Jew has nearly unlimited freedom with firearms. Non Jews do not.

Don't forget that Israel is very socialist and they have no guaranteed right to bear arms.


NOTE: This is to the best of my knowledge. If I'm misinformed I apologize.

 

[BADUNAME13]

http://www.israelmilitary.net/showthread.php?t=13


Just thought this could stand to be added...

 

[Double Naught Spy]

I like you am wondering how any Jew can ever support gun-control again...

Simple, they blame Hitler and the Nazi Party and not the laws.

 

[tinygnat219]

Andrewsky,

Does it really matter? I don't know much about their current membership, but if their founders were Jewish, who really cares?

 

[BADUNAME4]

Anti-gun Jews are about as sickening as they come. I know many. They are the same EXACT ones who allowed the Holocaust to happen and the same ones who walked into the gas chambers without putting up a fight. Wow, the truth is pretty sickening too, now that I think about it.

 

[willbrink]

Have any of you been to the Boston holocaust memorial? Here are some quotes that are engraved on the memorial:


"On Transport, people refused to be taken to the gas chambers.
A tragic struggle developed. They destroyed everything in sight and broke the crates filled with gold taken from the prisoners. They grabbed sticks and anything in their hands on to fight When the Morning came. The yard was still full of the dead"


"From our barracks we could see the gas chambers
A heart rendering cry of women and children reach us there
We are overcome by the feeling of helplessness
There we were, watching and unable to do anything"

I am a non Jew who seems to take the term "never again" to heart far more so than many Jews, and that has always made me ill.

 

[Neo-Luddite]

I have a friend who is a very anti-gun Jewish female.

Take her trap shooting. The surest cure for anti-gun female is a 12 ga. they control

As for the JPFO--what can you say? They are from Wisconsin. The only things that can be reliably interpolated is that they are Packers fans. They also probably are not averse to dairy products and beer.

What's the gambit then--they are 'faking' their Judaism and this is expressed through the design of their website?

Upon further reflection, maybe you shouldn't take your pal shooting.

 

[Jorg Nysgerrig]

In Israel, gun laws depend greatly on race. A Jew has nearly unlimited freedom with firearms.

Strange, your possibly non-Jewish friends at the JPFO and a writer for the Jerusalem Post seem to think that isn't true:
http://www.jpfo.org/israel-firearms.htm
http://www.jpfo.org/derfner-people.htm

I told her that political power doesn't come from "non-violent protests" it comes from who has the most riflemen on their side.

Really? I didn't notice the riflemen count being discussed much during the last election. Now that you mention it, no one really has talked about it for the 2008 election either. Boy, there seems to be a lot of political power in the world that doesn't seem to involve any use of riflemen. You may find that money has slightly more influence thank riflemen or protests.

 

[Deanimator]

I guess THR is the headquarters of the green party then.

No, no you've got it all wrong.

Since green is the color of Islam, THR is an ISLAMIST website.

Allahu akhbar!!!

 

[Dan from MI]

I'm not Jewish, so I don't judge what is Jewish or not Jewish. It's not my religion or bloodlines.

A large number of Jewish people are urban and from strongly anti-gun areas, and I'm sure that is a major influence. New York City, Boston, Phily, South Florida (New York South), Washington DC, Chicago, and Los Angeles are not exactly the most pro-gun places in this country.

JPFO's from Hartford, Wisconsin - far enough from Madison and Milwaukee to have much different influences than the city.

I think Location is the biggest factor.

 

[telomerase]

Unless there is some secret Jewish HTML manual

"The Protocols of the Hackers of Zion".

Take her trap shooting. The surest cure for anti-gun female is a 12 ga. they control

If the first gun she ever tries to shoot is a 12-gauge, she'll never shoot again.

.22 rifle or pistol, reactive targets, and keep it short.

 

[Deanimator]

If the first gun she ever tries to shoot is a 12-gauge, she'll never shoot again.

With trap loads it should be no big deal.

 

[Deanimator]

Most of the Jews I know here in Cleveland are AT LEAST gun OWNERS. Lots of them are getting their CHLs.

But then from what I've seen, Cleveland area people in general seem to have a lot more sense than people in other places. Recently, a guy shot one of two "youths" who tried to rob him on his front lawn. Contrary to expectations, the majority reaction has been, "Why'd you miss the second one???"