John Kerry now Jewish?

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Last year the Kerry camp leaked the stories about his Viet Nam friendly fire incident to the press, in order to make the issue a non-issue. (Please don't tell me that Kerry's folks weren't the ones who wrote the story; it's served him well by making it an "old news" item that won't get traction in the primaries).

Remember Hillary's handlers getting the story out that she had Jewish blood? Well, it's deja vu all over again with Kerry.

Here's the latest:

For Kerry, a Revelation on Roots


By Brian Faler
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, February 4, 2003; Page A10


Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman (D-Conn.) isn't the only presidential candidate with Jewish roots.

According to a report by the Boston Globe, Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) has Jewish grandparents. Kerry had long known that his paternal grandmother was of Jewish origin. But the report that his paternal grandfather was Jewish was news to the 2004 presidential candidate.

"This is incredible stuff," Kerry said in a story published in Sunday's Globe. "I think it is more than interesting; it is a revelation."

The newspaper, which hired a genealogist to look into Kerry's family background, found that his grandfather, Frederick A. Kerry, was born Fritz Kohn, to Jewish parents in what is now the Czech Republic. Kohn changed his name around 1902, a few years before he immigrated to the United States, where he eventually settled in the Boston area. The elder Kerry later converted to Catholicism, the faith that was passed down to the senator.

The genealogist who conducted the study, Felix Gundacker of the Institute for Historical Family Research in Vienna, Austria, told the paper he is "1,000 percent" certain Kerry's grandfather was Jewish.

The report adds diversity and clarity to the senator's sometimes poorly understood family background. Kerry has long been stereotyped as a "Boston Brahmin," owing to his mother's connections to the storied Forbes and Winthrop families of New England. He has also been often misidentified as Irish American because of his surname and, perhaps, because he represents Boston and its large Irish American population. His brother, meanwhile, converted to Judaism two decades ago after marrying a Jewish woman.

But the report suggests Kerry was most struck by the new details on his grandfather's death. Kerry had known that it was a suicide, but knew little else about it. The paper reported that in 1921, Frederick Kerry walked into Boston's Copley Plaza Hotel, went into a bathroom and shot himself in the head.

"How many times have I walked into that hotel . . . ." the senator told the Globe.
 
Does anybody on here NOT know what their grandparents were and where they were from? I find this a little hard to believe, personally. Heck, I know what Confederate and Union regiments my great-great UNCLES were in.:rolleyes:
 
Being Jewish is determined by your mothers side, not the father. So Kerry does not become a Jew with this discovery.

http://judaism.about.com/library/asktherabbi/bl_simmons_amijewish.htm

Ask the Rabbi FAQ

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I've had an interest in Judaism for about 3 years, and I have wanted to convert. Then at a recent family gathering, one of my uncles said that he had been tracing the family tree back and had found that my great great great grandmother has converted from a Jew to a Catholic. So we were thinking that our family might have been Jewish afterall. Our family went to Ireland in the 1400s around the time that the Jews were expelled from Spain. If it was proven that we were Jewish in the past, would that make me Jewish even though my family has had nothing to do with Judasim for 4 or 5 genarations. What would I need to do to prove that to a rabbi? Is is there any Jewish organization that deals with this kind of research and help. Thank you

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Jewish identity is passed on via the mother. If the mother is Jewish, the child is 100% Jewish. This is true regardless of who the father is, and whether he is Jewish or not, and regardless of whether the Jewish mother practiced another religion. That is the unwavering rule. At the same time, if someone's father is Jewish (but not the mother), then the child is 100% NOT Jewish.
Jewish identity passed on through the mother has been universally accepted by Jews for 3,000 years, and was decided by God, as recorded in the Five Books of Moses in Deut. 7:3-4. The Talmud (Kiddushin 68b) explains how this law is evident from those passages. According to Jewish law, this will remain the person's status forever. There is no way one can lose his status as a Jew even if he thinks he has gone so far as to convert to another religion!

Therefore, if your mother's mother's mother was Jewish, then you would also be considered Jewish. However, because of the complexity of your situation, you will need to bring proof that your mother's mother's mother (or her daughter, granddaughter etc.) was Jewish. Proof may include birth certificates, gravestones, etc. Assuming this is too far back for you to go, then your status remains as a non- Jew.

With blessings from Jerusalem,
Rabbi Shraga Simmons
 
The ideal Democratic candidate:

A transgendered HIV positive AfricanLatinNativeAsianIrishJewish American named Jacob-Maria ben Abdullah Shakira-O'Reilly..

Wildanyoneleftout?Alaska
 
Maybe we'll find out that Teddy Kennedy is his real father. Hey, it is concievable (concievable...get it?) that Teddy passed out before he had a chance to stage Jihad John's mother's death.

"Teddy! Where's the kaa?"

"In eh..the rivuh!"

"Teddy! Wheaaz the guurl?"

"Eh..in the kaa!"

The only good thing about Kennedys is their deadly allergy to lead and stupidity. GRRRRR!:fire: :fire: :cuss:
 
Wildanyoneleftout?Alaska

What's up with this myth that Irish people tend towards the Democratic party? OK, the Irish in the I-95 corridor between Philadelphia and Boston tend towards the Dems, and they get the most press. But the entire population in that area tends towards the Dems, not just the Irish.

The Irish are the second largest ethnic group in the U.S. (after the Germans) -- 33 million of 273.6 million Americans have Irish ancestry, about 12% of the population. We're too large to get pigeon holed.

For every Ted Kenndey there's a Pat Buccanan, with every political view in between.

Cuchulainn, Irish-German

Census ancestry source: http://factfinder.census.gov/servle...&geo_id=01000US&qr_name=ACS_C2SS_EST_G00_QT02
 
From my Jewish point-of-view the only person that would think John Kerry is Jewish is Adolf Hitler. Jewish or Irish it's irrelevent, he's still a liberal Mass. Democrat with too much hair.
 
No offense to Judaism, but what's the big deal?

Being Jewish is not the same thing as being Native-American or Irish-American or Whatever-American.

It's a religion. It's a choice.

If Kerry is so proud to have discovered he has Jewish blood why doesn't he convert to Judaism? Then he would have all the Jewish blood his body could hold.
 
he's still a liberal Mass. Democrat with too much hair

here here! (or "hair hair" if you're from Bahston) :)

Unless he can prove it through the mother, it doesn't matter. Until he converts, he isn't Jewish.

More importantly, who cares? If Jews vote for Kerry simply because he says he's a Jew, then we have some real problems...

MJ
 
Sorry but converting to Judaism (the Jewish religion) does not make you a Jew. Being a Jew is hereditary. Its an ethnicity. Its like saying you can convert to african-americanism by eating soul food. Gentiles who attend synagogue were historically referred to as "god fearing Gentiles." Perhaps this has changed in more liberal jewish congregations but thats the way it used to be.

Also frankly I don't buy that judaism was passed down maternally in scripture. All the lineages in the Old Testament are paternal. Everyone dates their lineage back to Jacob (Israel). If that was true then the only Jews after that would be from Jacob's daughter not his twelve sons. Furthermore in the old testament your lineage had to be clean for either 3 to 7 generations (can't remember which) for you to be admitted into the holy assembly of Israel. A far cry from Judaism practiced today, but the synagogue would be empty if the Jews were to strict these days.

It is Jewish practice for judaism to be passed maternally though.
 
I agree with TexasVet.

Knowing about your GRANDparents is a big part of our culture.
 
Thanks for the clarifications on the maternal issue, Airwolf.

However, you're talking facts, and this is Perception Politics. Two different animals. This story will help him in NYC.

Race is already stacking up to be a huge issue in 2004. Our current governor gained a lot of votes by having two black adopted children. Maybe Kerry might try that, too.
 
Y'all wouldn't believe the effort it takes for some descendents of Jews to trace their family tree. My SO's paternal grandfather apparently was named Lip****z and probably came from Lithuania. It's taken years of research, such as reading census records, to figure that much out.

Oy vay, that's some stupid censoring algorithm....
 
For those who said that a Gentile can't convert: You are wrong, even the Orthodox have a conversion process. There were times when Jews actively sought converts but that stopped by order of the Church.
 
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