Is the love affair for the Sig P365 slowing down?

[Trey Veston]

Three months ago, people were re-selling their P365s for $700-$800 to people who just had to have one.

Two months ago, my dad reported that he drove from Idaho to Arizona and couldn't find a single one in any gun shop he checked with along the way.

Today, I get an email from Palmetto State Armory saying they reduced the price on theirs to $549.

Does that mean the novelty is wearing off? Or is Sig production finally catching up to demand?

Used to be you couldn't visit a gun forum without at least two threads on the P365 on the front page. Now, haven't seen one for a while.

I don't have anything against the P365. I do have something against a company that would knowingly allow a defective firearm to be issued to soldiers and law enforcement officers, aka, the P320.

 

[Plan2Live]

Although I prefer DA/SA in a carry gun, I was initially intrigued by the 365. I've handled them but never shot one. For me, it suffers from the same problem I have with the Sig 938, Glock 43, Kimber Micro 9 and Springfield XDs (Glock 26 and Springfield XDm 3.8 Compact for that matter) and that is the grip is just too dang short. If I attempt a reload with any kind of speed I pinch some portion of my hand or finger between the mag base and the grip. So my interest for this gun dropped quickly. I doubt I will ever buy one.

 

[sabbfan]

I was wondering the same thing, I’ve seen them on sale at several places, including Bass Pro and online. The negative press on failures that are all over youtube can’t be helping matters.

 

[WrongHanded]

I handle one. Very nice little gun. Good sights, great trigger, impressive capacity for its size. I can see why many people want one.

 

[papaairbear]

OP: All good questions. One of my LGS is taking pre-orders with $100 down and retail at $499.99 ($399 + NICS when it arrives).
https://www.nwarmory.com/p-118461-s...ct-9mm-ns-2-10rnd-mags-pre-order-deposit.aspx

I've submitted a requisition to Santa. And people I talk to are still interested in it. I think it's going to continue to be a very popular subcompact,

 

[George P]

When they were available here and there around Florida, the street price ran $499 to $519, so $549 is no bargain to me.

 

[Old Dog]

I'd suspect production is catching up to demand, finally ... have actually seen a few coming in, in batches, in some of the local shops the past few weeks. Selling quickly (same day usually), though, so the popularity doesn't seem to be waning at all.

 

[MedWheeler]

I actually did want one. Held one at a gun show and it felt nice (would have felt more so once weight-balanced with a loaded magazine.)

But I'd once been considering a Kahr CW45 as a step up from my PF9, and one came along for a great price not too long after that gun show, and stole the Sig's funds.

Still, I can see why so many people want the SiG to work.

 

[Fine Figure of a Man]

supply + Demand = $
Supply + Demand = $

There is also the fact that, after all the hype, it is just another poly 9.

 

[WYO]

It appears that the complaints on gun forums have tapered off since Sig's latest rolling upgrades. Local stores around here still can't keep them in stock. I probably will pick one up next year, after the supply reaches the saturation point and I can pick one up any place in town for a stabilized price.

 

[Texas10mm]

At the NRA show the Sig people were saying they had 65k backorders and would be caught up in September.

 

[pblanc]

I sense that they are still quite popular and that SIG may be getting the glitches out. I have seen a little over a half dozen reports of problems with light primer strikes with pistols of recent manufacture that have the redesigned striker, so I am not running out to buy one just yet. But I have shot one and they are very comfortable and have a good trigger. If they get to be reliable I think it will be a very solid choice. But I suspect that the immediate market for the pistol might be approaching the saturation point.

 

[Styx]

I was excited at first, and then all the bad press came out. That, coupled with the $500+ price tag for a tiny polymer 9mm which I believe is highly overpriced. I'm not paying an extra $100 per extra bullet I get to carry over the PPS M2, Shield, etc... If I feel the need for more capacity, I'll just carry an extra mag...

If the price for these come down to $400, I might bite.

 

[Browning]

What Styx said.

The price dulled my enthusiasm a bit and then the reports of failures broke it off.

I might revisit it again at some point if the price ever gets to a little over $400 and they fix the problems with it.

 

[gojones]

I bought the shield new with rebate for under $300. Use it for conceal carry and am happy.

 

[Walkalong]

with pistols of recent manufacture that have the redesigned striker

Have a link to an article or pics that show the differences? It would be interesting to see what they did. Still love mine.

 

[sparkyv]

Does that mean the novelty is wearing off? Or is Sig production finally catching up to demand?

Yes and yes. At least I think so. It's still on my list; biding my time for the just-right deal.

supply + Demand = $
Supply + Demand = $

There is also the fact that, after all the hype, it is just another poly 9.

Well, a pocket polymer 9 with a 10-round capacity. Not at all common.

 

[ClemY]

I got to fire a 365 yesterday. I had my full size 320 that I have dropped into an X-Carry lower for comparison. The 365 is way too small for my large paws. I was pleasantly surprised it had a half descent trigger. My 320 is pretty new, but for me it is much better, but I live in MD and have zero chance of getting a CCW.

 

[pblanc]

Have a link to an article or pics that show the differences? It would be interesting to see what they did. Still love mine.

Here is a photo showing the original striker on top and the newer design on the bottom. The striker spring was also redesigned:


Although SIG has claimed that the whole issue with striker breakage was the result of improper metallurgy in MIM strikers that were manufactured by an Indian subcontractor (too high carbon content rendering them more brittle and predisposed to failure), so far as I know they have not said why they found it necessary or desirable to change the striker design.

I am not an engineer or a machinist but it looks to me as if the additional material added to radius the base of the striker tip where it meets the striker body may have been done to diffuse the stress riser that results at that junction.

 

[340PD]

I bought my first P365 in early March at my LGS for $515. I bought my second from the same LGS five months later for the same price.
Throughout the entire introduction of this "unicorn" firearm, many dealers took the high road and sold at a fair resale.

 

[Walkalong]

Here is a photo showing the original striker on top and the newer design on the bottom. The striker spring was also redesigned:

Thanks. I need to check mine.

 

[JR24]

I got to fire a 365 yesterday. I had my full size 320 that I have dropped into an X-Carry lower for comparison. The 365 is way too small for my large paws. I was pleasantly surprised it had a half descent trigger. My 320 is pretty new, but for me it is much better, but I live in MD and have zero chance of getting a CCW.

I had the same conclusion with the Glock 26. My sig functioned fine and was nice, just too small for me to shoot well. A bit too large for pocket carry, and didn't really conceal on my belt any better than my 26.

It's new owner loves it and is his EDC so at least it got a good home.

 

[Walkalong]

The 365 is way too small for my large paws. I was pleasantly surprised it had a half descent trigger. My 320 is pretty new, but for me it is much better,

Are you saying the trigger on the P-320 is better than the P-365, or just the P-320 in general for your hands?

 

[Walkalong]

Here is a photo showing the original striker on top and the newer design on the bottom.

Just checked and mine is the older style.

 

[Snowdog]

I spent what felt like an eternity on Brownell's waiting list for the P365. It was a long wait as after the coupon code, it was going to be $470 shipped.

Being a creature of instant gratification, I gave up after 3 months and spent the extra $60 to get it from another vendor. It's of course the latest model with the Xray tritium sights.

I absolutely fell in love. It fits me as if made specifically for me. It's every bit as small as my (also excellent) Kahr CM9, but holds an additional 4 rounds. That's quite substantial, being that it's leaning heavily in the direction of double the capacity (10 rounds vs 6 round magazine capacity).

The sights are wonderful, the trigger is wonderful, the ergonomics work wonderfully for me. The accuracy and reliability also are stellar.
I did put several hundred rounds through mine, most handloads (120gr TC polymer coated hardcast over 4.0gr Win231), though exactly 150 have been my carry round, 124gr +P HST.

I couldn't be happier with this micro pistol. I see it being my primary carry for the next decade.
I'm still a fan of the CM9 and won't be getting rid of it, but the choice to replace it was an easy one.

Here's my P365 next to my recently acquired S&W 60 (to show just how small this thing is).

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