orangeninja
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alduro said:the title says it all...oh BTW there is no exemption for CHL holders concerning knives....only guns.
Edited to add..this is a Becker neck knife with 3.5 inch blade.
C) dagger, including but not limited to a dirk, stilletto, and poniard;
JohnKSa said:Assuming that it is not spelled out somewhere else that a CHL doesn't give you any special rights other than to carry a handgun, you MIGHT get away with that if you get a very tolerant judge. Clearly, that's not what the statute means.
Anyway, if you take the straight wording of the statute, it still doesn't allow you to carry an illegal knife with as a CHL holder UNLESS you are also carrying your pistol.
The law CAN be read the way you intend it to be read (i.e. if you have a CHL AND are carrying a concealed handgun you are allowed to carry any other illegal weapons you want), but a judge could just as easily read the part about "is carrying a concealed handgun" to mean that it ONLY applies to carrying concealed handguns.My point is that there is an exemption there in black and white. You just read it.
This is rarely true of ANY sentence written in English--even less so with lawyers involved.As far as the English language is concerned though, there is zero wiggle room. It says exactly what it says.
JohnKSa said:This is rarely true of ANY sentence written in English--even less so with lawyers involved.
It could just as easily be read to mean that the phrase "is carrying a concealed handgun" is exclusively qualifying what kind of illegal weapon is being carried/may be carried with a CHL. The judge could say--"But the law doesn't say the 46.02 is not applicable for someone carrying a concealed handgun and a CHL AND an illegal knife. It only says it's not applicable if you're carrying a concealed handgun and a CHL."
Given the terribly unambiguous designation of the CHL it's obvious that your reading of the law is not what it is intended to convey. Furthermore, while there is some basis for supporting your interpretation, it's not consistent with the rest of the law as it concerns CHLs. That's going to make it a very hard sell.
Absolute best case, IMO, would be that you get off and they fix the law next legislative session.
Middy said:TX law is liberal with respect to long guns and concealed handguns, but that's about it...
On the other hand, what more do you really need?
Smokey Joe said:Let me get this straight: a BOWIE knife is illegal in TEXAS????
That's just wrong! It may be true but it's wrong, wrong wrong. Make wolverines illegal in Michigan, declare the badger as vermin in Wisconsin, let Missouri legislate the Missouri mule a common pest. Ye gods and little fishes!
What can the legislature have been thinking???
A Bowie knife is a weapon with a single edge which has been clipped in such a way that provides for a stabbing point at the tip of the blade.Middy said:Also, what is the definition of Bowie knife?
Is it any clipped point fixed-blade? Or does it have to have a sharpened swedge?