A friend of mine came by the other day to steal the last of my .458 supplies after he heard I'd traded my AR away. He commented that I'd be building another one before too long, and I replied that it wasn't likely, I'd given all my AR parts away either with the gun, or to another friend of mine whos doing a build.
He then proceeded to rummage thru my spare parts bins, came away with a set of Talley rings, and some other random stuff lol.
Well bout a week later he dropped by to give me some meat. He also brought along a set of ATI poly hybrid uppers and lowers. I gave them back after looking them over and he stopped me. He goes " Naw this set is for you, I want you to build it out"
When I asked why, he said "cause you'll find a problem before I will, and I don't want it breaking on ME"
Which started a totally different argument.
Admittedly I'd seen these a few days earlier and had considered buying a set, but like I've said before I'm not a huge fan of actually shooting Ars. The one exception are short, light, carbine builds......I haven't found another platform that does THAT combo quite as well. Too bad about that pistol grip tho
So I ended up with another AR receiver set and, supposedly, no AR parts.
After some digging I found some random parts, carbine buffer, grip, recoil spring, freefloat tube and barrel nut.... and a rifle buffer, I've never built a rifle stocked AR....
I found takedown pins in the parts bin at one of my local Hangouts.
But lacking the rest of everything, I asked @GunnyUSMC if he had any spares, cause well....have you SEEN his shop cleaning thread? And he was already sending me a mag for my SKS.
He was nice enough to assemble an LPK for me, which is a huge help, and much appreciated!
Another friend of mine provided a eBay "no name" pencil barrel he bought on a lark, turns out it's a PSA "Freedom" barrel, which is pretty cool.
That and the fact that the upper and lower are relatively light, dictated a light weightish build. I'm also trying to do it as cheaply as possible, in a reasonable time frame, as that fits the premiss of the cheaper hybrid upper/lower combo.
It was honestly luck that had it go this way, not that I'm complaining any lol
That brings up something a friend of mine likes to say...cars, guns, significant others, seems to apply well most times.
Fast, Good, Cheap, you can only have 2....
This build is Fast and Cheap, id never try fighting with this, or even use it for anything more serious than light hunting.
To that end here is the current components list, currently on hand or on order.
ATI Omni Hybrid upper and lower set, 65
PSA 16" pencil barrel, 75
LPK from Gunny, 35 THANKS GUNNY!!!!
Ebay handguard I found in my car parts bin...go figgure...35 is what i paid for it i think.
Ebay Adjustable Gas block .625, that .625dia is a pain to find parts for. I ended up going with this block because, 1 i liked the way it looked, and 2 I bought a light weight BCG and reduced power buffer spring. 42
Light weight BCG from https://www.righttobear.com/ Admittedly I got there cause i forgot the creek in "bear creek ar-15 " 100
Reduced power buffer spring, 15
I found a random old HEAVY stainless carbine buffer in one of the parts bins, this one i bought a while back off ebay for my .458 build, and lost it. Never needed it anyway. 15 bucks if i remember correctly.
I weighed this thing and it was 7.5oz, not being pinned i popped the end cap off and a shower of lead shot went everywhere.
I weighed it again and was just under 6.5oz. Looking inside there appeared to be some sort of insert inside, so i drilled a hole in it and tried to pull it out, which failed. I ended up drilling the whole thing out. It appears to either be lead or solder.
With all of it out the buffer weights about 3.5, with the shot i could find put back in its 4.4ish. Ill probably play with it a bit, if it dosent seem like it will work ill buy a standard buffer later.
Trinity Force 6 position buffer tube, and Alpha carbine stock. 25 for both, These are basic parts, Ive used them on a couple builds, and for the cost they are pretty decent. The one thing Ive noticed is that the pins holding the adjustment lock pin on the stock are soft and WILL deform given a chance. I now just replace them as soon as i get the stock.
Im not using a forward assist since the bcg lacks serrations, and i wasnt willing to buy an 8 dollar plug. SO, I tried poking random things in the hole (so much fun) and found that the butt end of a x284 case (wish i had a .450 bushmaster) fits perfectly. I sanded and painted one of my older 6.5-284 cases and stuck it in there. If it pops out Ill probably apply some glue to keep it in better (or i could make an extension and pin it), but it holds pretty well. I have to put a shell holder on it and pull it out with a vice grip...the paint will add some grab as well.
I also decided that a port door would be pretty pointless on something like this so im not spending any money on one of those either. Id gone as far as considering grinding off and the mounts and polishing them, but they arnt obtrusive, and id hate to go to all the work for the little cosmetic improvement (or not) it would provide.
I still need to get a mid length gas tube, and a charging handle, im pretty sure i can get them locally and since i forgot to order them when i ordered the BCG, thats what ill try first.
Im feeling brave, and Im thinking ill give it either a matte black, to gloss red fade, or a red, black, (insert third, and or 4th color here) cammoish pattern like i used on my B&C stock.
Ill upload pictures of the parts and the build as it goes along. Im hoping to be done in a couple weeks at the latest.
The recievers, I'll post more in-depth pics during the build.
Barrel
Other stuff
He then proceeded to rummage thru my spare parts bins, came away with a set of Talley rings, and some other random stuff lol.
Well bout a week later he dropped by to give me some meat. He also brought along a set of ATI poly hybrid uppers and lowers. I gave them back after looking them over and he stopped me. He goes " Naw this set is for you, I want you to build it out"
When I asked why, he said "cause you'll find a problem before I will, and I don't want it breaking on ME"
Which started a totally different argument.
Admittedly I'd seen these a few days earlier and had considered buying a set, but like I've said before I'm not a huge fan of actually shooting Ars. The one exception are short, light, carbine builds......I haven't found another platform that does THAT combo quite as well. Too bad about that pistol grip tho
So I ended up with another AR receiver set and, supposedly, no AR parts.
After some digging I found some random parts, carbine buffer, grip, recoil spring, freefloat tube and barrel nut.... and a rifle buffer, I've never built a rifle stocked AR....
I found takedown pins in the parts bin at one of my local Hangouts.
But lacking the rest of everything, I asked @GunnyUSMC if he had any spares, cause well....have you SEEN his shop cleaning thread? And he was already sending me a mag for my SKS.
He was nice enough to assemble an LPK for me, which is a huge help, and much appreciated!
Another friend of mine provided a eBay "no name" pencil barrel he bought on a lark, turns out it's a PSA "Freedom" barrel, which is pretty cool.
That and the fact that the upper and lower are relatively light, dictated a light weightish build. I'm also trying to do it as cheaply as possible, in a reasonable time frame, as that fits the premiss of the cheaper hybrid upper/lower combo.
It was honestly luck that had it go this way, not that I'm complaining any lol
That brings up something a friend of mine likes to say...cars, guns, significant others, seems to apply well most times.
Fast, Good, Cheap, you can only have 2....
This build is Fast and Cheap, id never try fighting with this, or even use it for anything more serious than light hunting.
To that end here is the current components list, currently on hand or on order.
ATI Omni Hybrid upper and lower set, 65
PSA 16" pencil barrel, 75
LPK from Gunny, 35 THANKS GUNNY!!!!
Ebay handguard I found in my car parts bin...go figgure...35 is what i paid for it i think.
Ebay Adjustable Gas block .625, that .625dia is a pain to find parts for. I ended up going with this block because, 1 i liked the way it looked, and 2 I bought a light weight BCG and reduced power buffer spring. 42
Light weight BCG from https://www.righttobear.com/ Admittedly I got there cause i forgot the creek in "bear creek ar-15 " 100
Reduced power buffer spring, 15
I found a random old HEAVY stainless carbine buffer in one of the parts bins, this one i bought a while back off ebay for my .458 build, and lost it. Never needed it anyway. 15 bucks if i remember correctly.
I weighed this thing and it was 7.5oz, not being pinned i popped the end cap off and a shower of lead shot went everywhere.
I weighed it again and was just under 6.5oz. Looking inside there appeared to be some sort of insert inside, so i drilled a hole in it and tried to pull it out, which failed. I ended up drilling the whole thing out. It appears to either be lead or solder.
With all of it out the buffer weights about 3.5, with the shot i could find put back in its 4.4ish. Ill probably play with it a bit, if it dosent seem like it will work ill buy a standard buffer later.
Trinity Force 6 position buffer tube, and Alpha carbine stock. 25 for both, These are basic parts, Ive used them on a couple builds, and for the cost they are pretty decent. The one thing Ive noticed is that the pins holding the adjustment lock pin on the stock are soft and WILL deform given a chance. I now just replace them as soon as i get the stock.
Im not using a forward assist since the bcg lacks serrations, and i wasnt willing to buy an 8 dollar plug. SO, I tried poking random things in the hole (so much fun) and found that the butt end of a x284 case (wish i had a .450 bushmaster) fits perfectly. I sanded and painted one of my older 6.5-284 cases and stuck it in there. If it pops out Ill probably apply some glue to keep it in better (or i could make an extension and pin it), but it holds pretty well. I have to put a shell holder on it and pull it out with a vice grip...the paint will add some grab as well.
I also decided that a port door would be pretty pointless on something like this so im not spending any money on one of those either. Id gone as far as considering grinding off and the mounts and polishing them, but they arnt obtrusive, and id hate to go to all the work for the little cosmetic improvement (or not) it would provide.
I still need to get a mid length gas tube, and a charging handle, im pretty sure i can get them locally and since i forgot to order them when i ordered the BCG, thats what ill try first.
Im feeling brave, and Im thinking ill give it either a matte black, to gloss red fade, or a red, black, (insert third, and or 4th color here) cammoish pattern like i used on my B&C stock.
Ill upload pictures of the parts and the build as it goes along. Im hoping to be done in a couple weeks at the latest.
The recievers, I'll post more in-depth pics during the build.
Barrel
Other stuff
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