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This morning a gentleman was walking his two leashed dogs down the street when our neighbors (anyone who has read the dog post knows who I'm talking about) let their lab out (same one that attacked the other neighbor) it charged and attacked the two dogs until the neighbor lady managed to get it to go inside, the guy walked on, since I have not seen cops or AC over there I am assuming nothing came of it, but this week one day I will have walk to work (it is not far), I already have the mindset of what to do but I don't have any idea what to carry (no CCW yet) an umbrella looks suspicious so I think a knife or something might be the way to go. All suggestions welcome.
 
I got attacked by a neighbors dog once, probably 6 or 7 years ago. Their kid was retarted, and he would always let it out the front door without a leash. It ran over to me as I was walking my dog through the neighborhood, and started to circle my dog. It was antagonizing him, and they started to fight. I tried to get out of there but I was young, and right in the middle of the brawl, so I ended up getting bitten in the leg. I'm still not sure that it wasnt my own dog that bit my leg, carried away in the heat of the fight. My dog had blood in his mouth, and his teeth seemed more of a match to the bite marks on my leg. He had never ever hurt a person and never went on to hurt anyone in all of his 15 years, so it was probably an accident or heat-of-the-moment thing. Either way, I told the animal control people and police that her dog was the one that attacked me, so they put it down. The whole neighborhood was glad to see it go. That wasnt the first time it got loose and pissed people off.
 
If you take only a knife and a dog attacks you will be dogbit. My sister raised siberian huskies & I discovered Quickly that a sledgehammer handle is the best way to (non-lethaly) breakup a dogfight. The same tatic should work for repelling an attack, tougher than an umbrella & if anyone asks why your'e carrying it tell them about the dog. jest my 2 cents worth. jim
 
A friend of mine related an incident he had while he was a meter reader. He had a dog come running straight for him, yelled at the owner to make it stop, then pulled out a (company provided, IIRC) pepper spray canister and aimed the stream for the dog's eyes. It yipped and yelped away and started to rub dirt in it's eyes.

Sounds to me like a pepper spray canister with a stream nozzle is just the right thing. I hear the mister style ones can blow back in your face and the range is limited. I've also heard of bear repellent sprays that are quite effective against all kinds of animals, but they tend to be larger than most pepper spray bottles.
 
Just my .02 worth.........

Folks,

I agree with "FixYurGun". An axe, or sledge hammer, handle is probably the best idea. You can perfect your strikes and jabs to prevent yourself from becoming the innocent victim in this event.

A healthy strike across the bridge of the nose will send the attacking dog hauling elsewhere. The handle strike probably wouldn't be lethal to the animal either.

Pepper spray isn't really an option. As a police officer, pepper sprays only work under ideal conditions. And, they're only effective if you can pinpoint your target. If the spray blew back into your face as you deployed it, you would be in great danger.

This is where I warn most people regarding pepper sprays. Depending on the jurisdiction you happen to live in, the pepper spray may be classified in the same category as carrying a handgun, and therefore, illegal. So, why not just get your CWP in your state anyway "and" carry both, the sledge hammer handle and your personal handgun?

Just food for thought,

HiVelocity in SC;)
 
Problem with pepper spray is Michigan's lame 2% or something like that deal causing us to have only the ugly red pepper spray that you can buy anywhere so I may have to do that.

The handle idea I loved but I read this

10. Is there anything that prohibits possession of Ninja-type sticks, brass knuckles or billy clubs?

MCL 750.224 prohibits the manufacture, sale, offering for sale or possession of a blackjack, billy, metallic knuckles, sand club, sand bag or bludgeon. It does not specifically list Ninja-type sticks. However, they could be considered a dangerous weapon, depending on the use

I think the handle would be ok under this but I'm not sure.
 
I feel pretty safe. I walk with a Johnson line American Bulldog, 10% OC and a Glock 19. Course I live in South Texas. :D
 
A friend of mine related an incident he had while he was a meter reader. He had a dog come running straight for him, yelled at the owner to make it stop, then pulled out a (company provided, IIRC) pepper spray canister and aimed the stream for the dog's eyes. It yipped and yelped away and started to rub dirt in it's eyes.
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Long time ago, the meter reader came in our yard to read the electric meter and our German Shepherd started barking at him. Not snapping or lunging, just barking. MR got out a can of pepper spray and sprayed the dog in the face with it. The dog was temporarily blinded, but knew about where he was and so he stopped barking and started growling and circling, closing in. There was nowhere to run because this was taking place in a fenced yard at least 100 yards from the road.

We saw the whole thing and called off the dog. (I think if we had not been home, the dog would have retreated) My dad told MR next time he attacked our dog like that, we weren't gonna call him off.

We started reading our own meter after that.

The point of this long-winded story is that pepper spray is not that effective against a determined dog. Use an ax handle.
 
I was lightly joking in my first response to this thread, but it is a bad problem here in my small town. There are all kinds of dogs allowed to run loose all the time. Almost impossible to enjoy a walk or bicycle ride. My bulldog Gunny is always on a leash and he wears a pinch collar, even though he is very well disciplined. I guess its called manners.

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Finger
 
The Fox Labs Firemaster looks legal otherwise everything else looks like a no-go, as for a club of sorts I know the chief of police I'll ask him, he is laid back on stuff like that, Now that Finger mentions it Texas does look like a good place to go. Unless Cox fixes Kelly's follies
 
baseball bat or the large maglite will work well. Another option is to just find a a solid stick or fallen branch of a tree and use it as a walking stick...how much less billy club like can you get than a innocent simple tree branch?
 
I always carry a hickory dowel @ 3/4" thick disguised as a walking stick. I put a crutch tip on the bottom and a copper plumbing cap on the top.

I have used it on a particularly nasty dog down the street that bit my wife and my neighbor and on several occasions, tried to bite me. The owner was a nasty alcoholic woman that had some sway with the local government.

No matter how often we reported this loose aggressive dog to the police, nothing was ever done.

I used the stick on it in front of the nasty woman as the dog bolted from her porch and attacked my dog and myself in the middle of the street. She caterwauled about having me arrested, but by that time I had reported the dog so often, the City had to admit there was a problem and I got a sympathetic officer to file a report and give me his personal info and a case number should the dog attack again. So when she threatened me over it, I was on my cell phone calling them myself and adding this latest assault, and I told her she should pack a toothbrush for her stay in jail.

Stick worked pretty well.

Never saw the dog after that...
 
"Maybe it is time to visit the dog owners?"



...And spray them with the red pepper spray, then schwack 'em once each with the axe handle, no wait, with the walking stick 'cause the handle would be illegal and then.........Just Kidding.

I would definitely talk to the owners for certain so that it's all on the up and up that they are or have been made aware of the situation. HAve a friend or other neighbor there as a witness for the civilized conversation. Then I would buy a good, solid walking stick or hiking stick. Lots of places sell them...An Irish Shillelagh comes to mind. Nice big solid handle, very dense...Great for walking and other things. Look it up on wikipedia. IIRC, the Irish used them due to some type of weapons ban somewhere in their history.
 
when i was a kid i found a piece of brass 3/4" pipe with an elbow screwed on one end out in the woods.

carried that for years as a walking stick. It weighed a ton but was great for fending off loose dogs.

dont even know where it is now or if you can even buy thick brass pipe anymore...
 
walking stick

A good walking stick is pretty practical - one can go a lot of places not much else can in these "weapon phobic" times.

On the other hand, if the neighbor dog is all that concerns you, I could lend you Boo to walk you to work. I have 2 large dogs, but in my house, and pretty much wherever else he is, the 22 pound Boo is the Alpha Dog.

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I agree with those urging you to carry a "walking stick" to work. If anyone raises a question, mention your "old sports injury". This justification certainly seems plausible and may have an element of truth to it.

One additional piece of advice seems appropriate here. Practice several simple strikes and jabs with your stick beforehand. Doing so will help you to prepare both psychologically and physically for a potential confrontation. Hopefully, that situation will not arise. But if it does, then you have some training to rely upon. Good luck.


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Richmond, that cat definitely looks like he/she doesnt take any crap! How big is that thing? The eyes alone should scare most people/dogs away haha :D
 
Boo the Cat

I would definitely not want to mess with Boo and his "paws of fury" when he's in a bad mood.
 
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