Jennings J-22 for self defense????

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colt1911a2

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I have a friend on the internet who wants to carry a Jennings J-22 for self defense when he is 17 or 18.I told him why he would want that peice of junk to carry for self defense when it has a very bad reputation for breaking and not being a good shooter.I also told him .22 LR is not that good of a round for self defense I told him he is better off with a CZ-52 what he wants too so badly but even that is not so good I told him why cant he spend his money on a S&W revolver,Taurus revolver,Ruger revolver,or at least a good Rossi revolver instead of wasting his money and betting his life with a peice of junk Jennings.I told him a .38 special revolver is so much better as a self defense caliber and gun and worth the value over a flimsy .22LR pistol such as the Jennings.I told him he can buy it if he wants but I would not recommend it for self-defense only for plinking and nothing more.
Do you think I did the right thing in how I explained to him not to buy a Jennings .22LR for self defense?
 
There are SO many reasons why he shouldn't carry a Jennings .22 (or any Jennings) for personal protection.

How old is he now? Does he want to go to jail? I wouldn't advocate breaking the law, so he shouldn't carry unless allowed in the state/country he resides.

Assuming all laws were being followed, there just aren't really any redeeming qualities for one of those guns, except perhaps as an oddity to have in a collection (I want Raven .25 ACP with no intention of carrying it, they just fascinate me for some reason). Well they are extremely concealable and only cost about $50, but really after handling one I would not want to bet my life on it.
 
He is 16 now and he breaks the law alot of times but If he wants to do it he can I at least will help pick him a good gun for him to use against a bad guy effectively so he doesnt lose his short life to scum he is a rebel.
 
My cousin had a Jennings 9mm that he shot frequently and he never had any problems with it.

I think the key is, if your friend insists, he should shoot it enough to determine if it has any problems. 22lr is cheap enough ammo that he can practice a lot.

Personally, I wouldn't trust my life to any gun that I have not shot a lot of rounds through, regardless of whether it is a Jennings or a Sig.

I also would not trust my life to .22lr, but it beats nothing.

If you can't convince him to change, at least convince him to shoot it a lot to ensure proper functionality.
 
I think that you should stay completely out of his decision-making process. If you cannot sheperd this kid towards following the law, then get far away.

By your own admission, "He is 16 now and he breaks the law alot of times" -sounds like a gun in this kid's hands are just going to accellerate his time-to-prison. It's only a matter of time before he brandishes, robs, shoots or kills someone -perhaps himself.

Do you really want any part of that? How can he legally acquire any firearm at his age? If you get involved, you're going to be responsible as the Straw Man.
 
I agree, the way you describe him, it seems that helping him aquire a firearm is going to be counterproductive.
 
I think you've done what you can. Anything else you do is going to get you in as much trouble as him.
 
I will make sure he knows that proper functionality is important.
I know he's your friend, but I agree that you should stay out of this whole endeavor.

Folks who call themselves "rebels" are usually idiots who get people hurt and possibly incarcerated. When (not if) he falls afoul of the law, you do not want to be implicated in any way by having helped him. Your best bet is to steer clear and hope he gets his act together.

As far as the quality of the weapon, do a search on this forum. You won't find much praise for the Jennings/Lorcin/Bryco/Raven/Davis guns. At best, it's a paperweight; at worst it'll fail in some spectacular fashion that will likely involve injury.

(I wouldn't mind having one at the shop to hand to people who ask about "cheap" guns. Let 'em shoot it and see why $150 is not an acceptable budget for a handgun.)

As far as the .22, it's better than harsh words. It's also marginally better than the .25, but that's not saying much. True, most fatalities in this country come from the .22, but there's a difference between stopping an assailant NOW and waiting several minutes for him to bleed out.
 
No he will use someone else he has no felonies but he is awaitin a court date as of now but he is more likely to make a mistake with a gun than any of you but he wants one for protection because no one protects him so he is like screw it "I will get my pistol and carry anyway even though I will have alot of heat on me because of my record".
There is not much I can do because he will get one either way and he got arrested in Febuary or March for carrying a box cutter in school and having illegal fireworks at his home for distribution.So yes he is not a good influence for carrying but not much I can do because he lives in a different state then me.I have a clean record and I use common sense when I have a loaded gun on me I only use it for good purposes and only use it if someone threatens my life or others.
 
A Jennings sounds perfect for this kid. Your friend sounds like a crime streak waiting to happen. He is not a "rebel", he is a juvenile delinquent. The reason I say the Jennings is "perfect" is due to the fact that, for the good of society, this gun has the least likelihood of actually functioning, and short of a pellet gun, is the least destructive round I can think of. So when your friend the "rebel" inevitably sticks this gun in someone's face for no good reason to show how "tough" he is, hopefully it will go "click" instead of "boom" and he'll only have an assault with a deadly weapon charge and not a murder charge.

Once again, your friend is not a "rebel", but a criminal. If you take any part in getting him a gun, even a Jennings, knowing what you have said here, well, you are a criminal, too.

This is a message board for gun enthusiasts, target shooters, and hunters, NOT criminals in training. I hope the mods do us all a favor and close or remove this thread!!!!
 
I think Concord city
I wont help him get a gun he is too dangerous I just insisted at the time but now I will stop.
 
He was on the local news for the arrest in march or February he linked me a News article on him a few months ago I dont have it anymore.
 
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