brownie0486
Member
Last weekend I put on my first rifle/shottie quick kill course of fire.
Started with the bb guns and below line of sight shooting on 12 ga. shotgun shells and 9mm brass at 10 feet. The onto shooting bb's with bb's off the bank at 8-12 feet. Once the students were dialed in on the below line of sight skill, we went to the above line of sight qkr skill shooting coke cans and shotgun shells out of the air with the bbguns.
Sat afternoon, on to the shotties and aerial shooting on clay birds. By sat afternoon, the majority were hitting the 80% rate or better with several over 90% in just an hour or two on the birds.
Sunday morning, back on the shotties for an hour while fresh and all but one was hitting in the mid 90% by the time we put em away and went to the 22 rifles for below line of sight qkr skills. Had the students start out with soda cans/ milk jugs on the bank and moved them back to 25 yrds where the hits were still in the high 80% range or better in short order. Then on to smurf balls the size of golf balls from 25 yrds shooting without looking at the rifle or it's sight/s. Ran some move and shoot drills using the qkr below line of sight skill, everyone was quite surprised how easy it was to hit the smurf balls and cans while on the move.
Afternoon, broke out the defensive shotties and finished the day with SD drills on multiple threats at various heights and distances apart.
Here's a few reviews from another forum on the weekends QKR training. We'll be throwing up another course this year if I can fit it into the scheduling. Already have 5 presigned up for whenever I announce the dates in Fla in the coming months.
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What did I expect?...another weekend spent humoring an old man while he goes on about the ability we all have but have never tapped?....not really…ok…kind of…ive had the privilege of attending so many of brownies classes as a student and range assistant that I know when I step onto the range with a firearm in my hand and an open mind that I am going to discover something new, exciting and enlightening while reinforcing everything hes taught me in the past…
once again brownie has not disappointed any way shape or form….and I’m sure as the reports start rolling in that will be quite obvious…
bb guns on 9mm brass, shotgun shells, pebbles, other bb’s and in a few instances including one of my own, cutting a piece of grass with a bb, along with ariel shooting of tossed pop cans….i kid you not…the class picked up on the skills pretty quickly and everyone was pounding the berms with bb’s and having the time of their lives…the most popular targets were clay pigeon pieces that we would whittle down to specs on the berm and then drill them until they disappeared…
move on to shotgun ariel clay pigeon shooting…several in the class had no experience with ariel shooting but in a surprisingly short time were dusting the little guys with great regularity…I grew up shooting skeet and trap but haven’t shouldered a shotgun in over 18 years…my training involved memorized leads and tracking fliers with a bead site to take them when the sight picture was right…I was quite accomplished at it and had a shelf full of trophies to show for it…in addition I hunted upland game birds and rabbits for years…that required the ability to acquire and take down targets in a hurry….had I had this training back then new york state would be devoid of partridge and peaseant altogether…I was starting at the hip position, raising my gun after the clay was released, acquired it in flight and as the gun hit my shoulder I could immediately take a shot and dust clays…at one point I ran 24 for 25 clays hit…in another string I was able to run about 35 birds with 40 shots as 5 were an initial miss that I was able to pump the gun and take the clay with a second shot immediately…none of the clays hit the ground whole in that string…this stuff works…
time to sling some brass…out come the .22 rifles and we’re back on the berm with plastic golf balls, paint balls and assorted flotsam…same results as the bb guns from greater distances with many golf balls going airborne when hit and launching over the berm…pretty much everyone demonstrated the ability to take targets repeatedly as they rolled down the berm or skipped across its face…the line was on fire…
incrementally the line was moved back until we were shooting sightless from a pretty good distance…the same golf balls were getting tossed around on the berm pretty regularly…as a rule even a miss would usually be close enough to be spitting dirt on the intended target….and at that distance hitting those small targets were pretty impressive using the quick kill skills…there was no time spent looking for sight pictures…once your index was established repeatable accuracy was excellent…
then it had to happen….wall of bullets drills with .22 rifles…load up the 30 rounders and lets play….the teams had some fun demonstrating some great accuracy while moving and as targets spit across the berm they were tracked and continuously hit…yahoooooo…
we also ran drills moving laterally along the berm acquiring and shooting targets as we approached them…running both directions showed the accuracy was available regardless of how the targets were approached….
Back to shotguns and some defensive drills….taking multiple separated targets quickly with defensive shotguns…everyone was taking targets down quickly and with excellent accuracy….
Enter a threatening cloud cover and some intermittent light sprinkles with a range covered with tiny .22 brass….a quick cleanup of the brass and the trash we had been shooting on the berm and it was time to call it a day…reluctantly…although I think some were experiencing a bit of shotgun shoulder and weren’t too unhappy about having to put that guy up for the night…I have a rather large red tender area on mine but I think the adrenaline that comes with owning the skills that brownie shares with us takes the sting out of it pretty effectively…
Standouts…
the beacher smile…that almost childlike grin that crosses his face when he gets something and it just seems to last the whole weekend…he was on fire on the clays and even took some using the pistol grip with no shoulder stock…impressive stuff…
teter and his dad…a formidable team who once dialed in on the clays were running them regularly and making it look easier than it could possibly be…
an unstoppable amount of enthusiasm was demonstrated by all and it was great to see everyone again….
Saved for last is my genuine and overwhelming gratitude to brownie for sharing these skills with us, helping us find and apply natural ability weve always had and changing the way we think about how firearms work and what we are capable of doing with them along with his devotion to making sure everyone present gets his full attention and walks away understanding everything he presents…above all however, I have to mention what a pleasure it is to have him as a friend and mentor which goes well beyond firearms training…
Thank you sir for everything you do for us…you’ve made a positive impression on my life as well as many others from what ive seen…you don’t give yourself enough credit…and ive come to realize that no matter how long I know him, he will never run out of interesting and outrageous stories about his own escapades…keep em coming…looking forward to the next time…
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Can't add much to what others have written; except to say that, as always, Brownie exceeded my expectations. This is the third class I've taken with him, and the third time I've come away with some new skills. You will not be disappointed if you train with him.
I was amazed how easy it was to knock clays out of the air without looking at the sights. I didn't believe I'd be able to cut a blade of grass with the BB gun either, but actually did. I think Brownie's grin was wider than mine when he saw me do it.
Sorry I had to miss day two, but can't wait to get out to the range to try the .22 on some ping pong balls on the berm from 40 yards.
It was great to get to meet everyone, and put some faces to the avatars. This forum is blessed with some truly exceptional people.
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Sitting around relaxing so many things are coming to mind about the last two days that seem almost too outlandish to repeat in fear of sounding like we are making stuff up. All weekend Brownie kept saying "challenge yourself" and I thought I was but then he would come along and reset the goals to some surprise level. I don't know what the others were thinking but my brain was always saying "What!? I just got this down. Hold on a minute."
BnB's characterization of us shooting the clay remnants into smaller and smaller pieces with the BB guns and finally dust is not an exaggeration. It was like some fictional book or movie.
Once as Brownie was coming down the line while we were working the BB guns I was drilling a soda can. Brownie taps me on the shoulder and says try it one handed. I just did it without thinking and "clang" . You could have pushed me over with my mouth hanging open. It took me a few tries to do it again. I attribute it to the pre-shouldering thing v/s the better snap shot results I was getting. The first time I was not over thinking it, just did it. Something to keep in mind for the future...
"the mind is the limiting factor" and all that stuff...
Another thing - We were getting off three shots on skeet: two clays and a third for clean up of large pieces.
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Brownie, what a pleasure and an honor to meet you and train under your tutelage this weekend! For the folks that haven't had the chance to meet Brownie, this man brings his knowledge to his students with what I can only describe as a cheerful intensity. While we, as students, feel like a kid in a candy store with the new skills being taught, it is Brownie who truly is the one in the candy store. You can see it light up in him as a student "gets it", ala the famous Beacher smile. Brownie is in his element teaching, guiding, encouraging and giving little adjustments here and there. And he seems to be everywhere! And when he talks to you, he is looking you straight in the eye, without blinking and speaking to you as if no one else is there but the two of you yet the words are for all who are there. Whether it is straight forward explanation of the steps and action in the drills or a relating an experience from his past, there is always a lesson to be learned, especially in the stories for those are real world occurrences of the use of the skills being taught.
I mean, here's this old Marine with a class ranging from newbs like myself all the way up to a guy who I feel is at pretty dang good instructor level in his own right in Bladenbullet and we're all hanging on every word he's telling us. Then we start to shoot. BB guns. Without using the sights. In no time it seems he has us reducing the size of our targets. Down to shotgun shells, then down to 9mm brass. And we're hitting them! Then down to BBs half buried in the berm!! Then BnB cuts a blade of grass in two. WITH A BB! Teeter cuts a tall weed at the top of the berm in half that was 20 feet away. And all the while Brownie's grin is big enough to put Beacher's to shame. All the while we are building two things. The proprioceptors for the skill set and the belief in the skill set. This second item is crucial for it unlocks your mind, frees the "I" function, and opens you up to what I call potentiabilities.
Then to the shotguns and clays. We shoulda heated up those throwers like MilkmanJoe suggested.lol But on my last group of the day I hit 4 out 5 clays, ding, ding, ding! And picked up Sunday with the clays hitting the first one, woot! (thought my shoulder would fall off right there!) BnB and Beacher team shooting the dual clays Rossum was sending, Wow! Then on to the .22s. As with the BB guns in the below line of sight we were starting out on tin cans on the berm, then hitting golf balls and paint balls but Brownie backed us out to about 25 yards. And then, the wall of bullets. One target, seven shooters advancing in a line on it. Talk about a rush! Then two man team advance on one target and walk down the line firing. Fun just is too inadequate a word. Finally, sd shotgun drill. Multiple targets on the berm, fire with NO hesitation and hit all three!
Long post I know, but gotta say this.Brownie, please, please make this a regular course offering. And everyone on the forum would not regret taking this class, just know I threw my name in the hat for auto enrollment on the next one. And the pistol class in November. And something I think most of the students would agree on (and be quite thankful for), Brownie woefully undercharges. Folks, these aern't paper target sport shooting skills. these are real world tools that can save not only your life but those of your loved ones. And in the end I think this sort of thing is Brownie's legacy, imparting to others the skills and unlocking of the mind. Well done sir!
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There is very little to add to the above by Beacher, BnB, Starfist, etc. But, let me give it a shot (bad pun).
For some perspective, I am not a shotgun guy. I own two that sit in the corner gathering dust. They are there "just in case." I had fired off about 20 rounds in each shortly after purchase and cleaning. Total life-time shotgun round count for me is about 50. Before this weekend, I had never tried to hit a flying object. I think that was evident early Saturday morning. I was going through all sorts of bodily contortions to bring the barrel to bear on the flying target--slight squat at the knees, cranning my neck out "to get a better view", all sorts of wrong things. I was consistently missing.
By the end of the day on Saturday, I was hitting my fair share of clays.
But, for me, the great revelation (and heck of a lot of fun!) was the walk-by shooting with the .22, and the multi-target-as-fast-as-you-can with the shottie. Da*n!!! Load 4 - 5 shells.. . step up towards the berm . . . pick out three or four targets spaced widely apart and at different heights. . . and just blast the heck out of them as fast as you can rack it!!! Oh Yeah!!!
If I can do it (with Brownie's instruction), then anyone can. Also, a quick thank you to BnB. I was fortunate to be paired up with him for the aerial stuff. His incisive observation and sage advise got my weird contortionist stuff resolved (or at least greatly improved). I need more practice to get close to the level of some of the amazing people out there this weekend. But, the foundation is laid. It's up to me now.
Thank you Mr. Brown.
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I believe everything has been well conveyed as to the success of this weekend's QKR course. Yet another excellent course put on by our great teacher, Mr. Brown. Thanks for putting in the extra time to unscrew my mind and allowing me to get the skills down. Excellent instruction as always Sir.
My two favorite success/aha moments were hitting 3 in a row aerial shotgun shells with the bb gun and then Sunday morning popping clays once I switched to the better fitting SD shotgun.
Thanks to Starfist52 for partnering up with me during the training. Was a pleasure to meet and converse with you. As usual, a great time with all of the other familiar faces this past weekend.
Looking forward to June/July in Lake Mary. Hope to see you all again there for that one.
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Here's what I wrote in a response to the first aar above:
With some trepidation, I put this first long gun course together hoping I could transfer the instinctive rifle/shottie skills I was trained in by one of my own mentors, Bobby Lamar "Lucky" McDaniel, back in 1981 [ wow, it's been 33 years? Where'd the time go? ].
I knew the below line of sight QK Rifle/shottie skills wouldn't be a problem, everyone gets that in less than 5 minutes and I've trained numerous people with the below line of sight skill over the years [ but not in a formal class setting ]. The aerials would be the test of my ability to transfer the gift I'd been given long ago. to others.
Suffice to say, as you've so eloquently elaborated here, I can bring that skill to the plate in a course of fire with better than acceptable results. No one heard it, but as the afternoon wore on and people were starting to "get in the zone" busting the birds with repeatedly, there was a huge sigh of relief, we'd be "good to go" for future instinctive rifle/shottie courses of fire if there were enough interested. Personal results of the students notwithstanding, I am elated everyone kept at it until they "got it" and they worked through their, at times, frustrations and ended up walking the path of enlightenment regarding the natural abilities they've always possessed but never knew [ or believed ] they'd ever be capable of without years of training and practice.
Kudos to everyone are certainly in order here. You guys [ no gals in the course ] worked through the drills/skills, and walked through the doors I opened this weekend. I'm proud of every one of you folks who attended and walked the path of enlightenment once again. You people OWN these rifle/shottie Quick Kill instinctive skills, and I couldn't be more proud of everyone's attention and commitment to walk through that door and gain the knowledge [ not sure if it's college level, but we'll go with the "college of knowledge" on this one as well ]
What can I say Tom, you have become a source of inspiration for me. The biggest thrill and satisfaction I could possibly experience is when I see those light bulbs go off and people mentally "turn on" to the skills I present in the courses. It's more rewarding for me to see this happening in front of me than people could ever know. I appreciate and respect your thoughts, your abilities and your dedication to be the sponge.
Thank you for being there for me once again. I had a blast watching all of you turn on to these skills. Safe travels sir. !!!
Thought some might enjoy the reviews and find it something they may want to explore in the future.
Started with the bb guns and below line of sight shooting on 12 ga. shotgun shells and 9mm brass at 10 feet. The onto shooting bb's with bb's off the bank at 8-12 feet. Once the students were dialed in on the below line of sight skill, we went to the above line of sight qkr skill shooting coke cans and shotgun shells out of the air with the bbguns.
Sat afternoon, on to the shotties and aerial shooting on clay birds. By sat afternoon, the majority were hitting the 80% rate or better with several over 90% in just an hour or two on the birds.
Sunday morning, back on the shotties for an hour while fresh and all but one was hitting in the mid 90% by the time we put em away and went to the 22 rifles for below line of sight qkr skills. Had the students start out with soda cans/ milk jugs on the bank and moved them back to 25 yrds where the hits were still in the high 80% range or better in short order. Then on to smurf balls the size of golf balls from 25 yrds shooting without looking at the rifle or it's sight/s. Ran some move and shoot drills using the qkr below line of sight skill, everyone was quite surprised how easy it was to hit the smurf balls and cans while on the move.
Afternoon, broke out the defensive shotties and finished the day with SD drills on multiple threats at various heights and distances apart.
Here's a few reviews from another forum on the weekends QKR training. We'll be throwing up another course this year if I can fit it into the scheduling. Already have 5 presigned up for whenever I announce the dates in Fla in the coming months.
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What did I expect?...another weekend spent humoring an old man while he goes on about the ability we all have but have never tapped?....not really…ok…kind of…ive had the privilege of attending so many of brownies classes as a student and range assistant that I know when I step onto the range with a firearm in my hand and an open mind that I am going to discover something new, exciting and enlightening while reinforcing everything hes taught me in the past…
once again brownie has not disappointed any way shape or form….and I’m sure as the reports start rolling in that will be quite obvious…
bb guns on 9mm brass, shotgun shells, pebbles, other bb’s and in a few instances including one of my own, cutting a piece of grass with a bb, along with ariel shooting of tossed pop cans….i kid you not…the class picked up on the skills pretty quickly and everyone was pounding the berms with bb’s and having the time of their lives…the most popular targets were clay pigeon pieces that we would whittle down to specs on the berm and then drill them until they disappeared…
move on to shotgun ariel clay pigeon shooting…several in the class had no experience with ariel shooting but in a surprisingly short time were dusting the little guys with great regularity…I grew up shooting skeet and trap but haven’t shouldered a shotgun in over 18 years…my training involved memorized leads and tracking fliers with a bead site to take them when the sight picture was right…I was quite accomplished at it and had a shelf full of trophies to show for it…in addition I hunted upland game birds and rabbits for years…that required the ability to acquire and take down targets in a hurry….had I had this training back then new york state would be devoid of partridge and peaseant altogether…I was starting at the hip position, raising my gun after the clay was released, acquired it in flight and as the gun hit my shoulder I could immediately take a shot and dust clays…at one point I ran 24 for 25 clays hit…in another string I was able to run about 35 birds with 40 shots as 5 were an initial miss that I was able to pump the gun and take the clay with a second shot immediately…none of the clays hit the ground whole in that string…this stuff works…
time to sling some brass…out come the .22 rifles and we’re back on the berm with plastic golf balls, paint balls and assorted flotsam…same results as the bb guns from greater distances with many golf balls going airborne when hit and launching over the berm…pretty much everyone demonstrated the ability to take targets repeatedly as they rolled down the berm or skipped across its face…the line was on fire…
incrementally the line was moved back until we were shooting sightless from a pretty good distance…the same golf balls were getting tossed around on the berm pretty regularly…as a rule even a miss would usually be close enough to be spitting dirt on the intended target….and at that distance hitting those small targets were pretty impressive using the quick kill skills…there was no time spent looking for sight pictures…once your index was established repeatable accuracy was excellent…
then it had to happen….wall of bullets drills with .22 rifles…load up the 30 rounders and lets play….the teams had some fun demonstrating some great accuracy while moving and as targets spit across the berm they were tracked and continuously hit…yahoooooo…
we also ran drills moving laterally along the berm acquiring and shooting targets as we approached them…running both directions showed the accuracy was available regardless of how the targets were approached….
Back to shotguns and some defensive drills….taking multiple separated targets quickly with defensive shotguns…everyone was taking targets down quickly and with excellent accuracy….
Enter a threatening cloud cover and some intermittent light sprinkles with a range covered with tiny .22 brass….a quick cleanup of the brass and the trash we had been shooting on the berm and it was time to call it a day…reluctantly…although I think some were experiencing a bit of shotgun shoulder and weren’t too unhappy about having to put that guy up for the night…I have a rather large red tender area on mine but I think the adrenaline that comes with owning the skills that brownie shares with us takes the sting out of it pretty effectively…
Standouts…
the beacher smile…that almost childlike grin that crosses his face when he gets something and it just seems to last the whole weekend…he was on fire on the clays and even took some using the pistol grip with no shoulder stock…impressive stuff…
teter and his dad…a formidable team who once dialed in on the clays were running them regularly and making it look easier than it could possibly be…
an unstoppable amount of enthusiasm was demonstrated by all and it was great to see everyone again….
Saved for last is my genuine and overwhelming gratitude to brownie for sharing these skills with us, helping us find and apply natural ability weve always had and changing the way we think about how firearms work and what we are capable of doing with them along with his devotion to making sure everyone present gets his full attention and walks away understanding everything he presents…above all however, I have to mention what a pleasure it is to have him as a friend and mentor which goes well beyond firearms training…
Thank you sir for everything you do for us…you’ve made a positive impression on my life as well as many others from what ive seen…you don’t give yourself enough credit…and ive come to realize that no matter how long I know him, he will never run out of interesting and outrageous stories about his own escapades…keep em coming…looking forward to the next time…
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Can't add much to what others have written; except to say that, as always, Brownie exceeded my expectations. This is the third class I've taken with him, and the third time I've come away with some new skills. You will not be disappointed if you train with him.
I was amazed how easy it was to knock clays out of the air without looking at the sights. I didn't believe I'd be able to cut a blade of grass with the BB gun either, but actually did. I think Brownie's grin was wider than mine when he saw me do it.
Sorry I had to miss day two, but can't wait to get out to the range to try the .22 on some ping pong balls on the berm from 40 yards.
It was great to get to meet everyone, and put some faces to the avatars. This forum is blessed with some truly exceptional people.
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Sitting around relaxing so many things are coming to mind about the last two days that seem almost too outlandish to repeat in fear of sounding like we are making stuff up. All weekend Brownie kept saying "challenge yourself" and I thought I was but then he would come along and reset the goals to some surprise level. I don't know what the others were thinking but my brain was always saying "What!? I just got this down. Hold on a minute."
BnB's characterization of us shooting the clay remnants into smaller and smaller pieces with the BB guns and finally dust is not an exaggeration. It was like some fictional book or movie.
Once as Brownie was coming down the line while we were working the BB guns I was drilling a soda can. Brownie taps me on the shoulder and says try it one handed. I just did it without thinking and "clang" . You could have pushed me over with my mouth hanging open. It took me a few tries to do it again. I attribute it to the pre-shouldering thing v/s the better snap shot results I was getting. The first time I was not over thinking it, just did it. Something to keep in mind for the future...
"the mind is the limiting factor" and all that stuff...
Another thing - We were getting off three shots on skeet: two clays and a third for clean up of large pieces.
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Brownie, what a pleasure and an honor to meet you and train under your tutelage this weekend! For the folks that haven't had the chance to meet Brownie, this man brings his knowledge to his students with what I can only describe as a cheerful intensity. While we, as students, feel like a kid in a candy store with the new skills being taught, it is Brownie who truly is the one in the candy store. You can see it light up in him as a student "gets it", ala the famous Beacher smile. Brownie is in his element teaching, guiding, encouraging and giving little adjustments here and there. And he seems to be everywhere! And when he talks to you, he is looking you straight in the eye, without blinking and speaking to you as if no one else is there but the two of you yet the words are for all who are there. Whether it is straight forward explanation of the steps and action in the drills or a relating an experience from his past, there is always a lesson to be learned, especially in the stories for those are real world occurrences of the use of the skills being taught.
I mean, here's this old Marine with a class ranging from newbs like myself all the way up to a guy who I feel is at pretty dang good instructor level in his own right in Bladenbullet and we're all hanging on every word he's telling us. Then we start to shoot. BB guns. Without using the sights. In no time it seems he has us reducing the size of our targets. Down to shotgun shells, then down to 9mm brass. And we're hitting them! Then down to BBs half buried in the berm!! Then BnB cuts a blade of grass in two. WITH A BB! Teeter cuts a tall weed at the top of the berm in half that was 20 feet away. And all the while Brownie's grin is big enough to put Beacher's to shame. All the while we are building two things. The proprioceptors for the skill set and the belief in the skill set. This second item is crucial for it unlocks your mind, frees the "I" function, and opens you up to what I call potentiabilities.
Then to the shotguns and clays. We shoulda heated up those throwers like MilkmanJoe suggested.lol But on my last group of the day I hit 4 out 5 clays, ding, ding, ding! And picked up Sunday with the clays hitting the first one, woot! (thought my shoulder would fall off right there!) BnB and Beacher team shooting the dual clays Rossum was sending, Wow! Then on to the .22s. As with the BB guns in the below line of sight we were starting out on tin cans on the berm, then hitting golf balls and paint balls but Brownie backed us out to about 25 yards. And then, the wall of bullets. One target, seven shooters advancing in a line on it. Talk about a rush! Then two man team advance on one target and walk down the line firing. Fun just is too inadequate a word. Finally, sd shotgun drill. Multiple targets on the berm, fire with NO hesitation and hit all three!
Long post I know, but gotta say this.Brownie, please, please make this a regular course offering. And everyone on the forum would not regret taking this class, just know I threw my name in the hat for auto enrollment on the next one. And the pistol class in November. And something I think most of the students would agree on (and be quite thankful for), Brownie woefully undercharges. Folks, these aern't paper target sport shooting skills. these are real world tools that can save not only your life but those of your loved ones. And in the end I think this sort of thing is Brownie's legacy, imparting to others the skills and unlocking of the mind. Well done sir!
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There is very little to add to the above by Beacher, BnB, Starfist, etc. But, let me give it a shot (bad pun).
For some perspective, I am not a shotgun guy. I own two that sit in the corner gathering dust. They are there "just in case." I had fired off about 20 rounds in each shortly after purchase and cleaning. Total life-time shotgun round count for me is about 50. Before this weekend, I had never tried to hit a flying object. I think that was evident early Saturday morning. I was going through all sorts of bodily contortions to bring the barrel to bear on the flying target--slight squat at the knees, cranning my neck out "to get a better view", all sorts of wrong things. I was consistently missing.
By the end of the day on Saturday, I was hitting my fair share of clays.
But, for me, the great revelation (and heck of a lot of fun!) was the walk-by shooting with the .22, and the multi-target-as-fast-as-you-can with the shottie. Da*n!!! Load 4 - 5 shells.. . step up towards the berm . . . pick out three or four targets spaced widely apart and at different heights. . . and just blast the heck out of them as fast as you can rack it!!! Oh Yeah!!!
If I can do it (with Brownie's instruction), then anyone can. Also, a quick thank you to BnB. I was fortunate to be paired up with him for the aerial stuff. His incisive observation and sage advise got my weird contortionist stuff resolved (or at least greatly improved). I need more practice to get close to the level of some of the amazing people out there this weekend. But, the foundation is laid. It's up to me now.
Thank you Mr. Brown.
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I believe everything has been well conveyed as to the success of this weekend's QKR course. Yet another excellent course put on by our great teacher, Mr. Brown. Thanks for putting in the extra time to unscrew my mind and allowing me to get the skills down. Excellent instruction as always Sir.
My two favorite success/aha moments were hitting 3 in a row aerial shotgun shells with the bb gun and then Sunday morning popping clays once I switched to the better fitting SD shotgun.
Thanks to Starfist52 for partnering up with me during the training. Was a pleasure to meet and converse with you. As usual, a great time with all of the other familiar faces this past weekend.
Looking forward to June/July in Lake Mary. Hope to see you all again there for that one.
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Here's what I wrote in a response to the first aar above:
With some trepidation, I put this first long gun course together hoping I could transfer the instinctive rifle/shottie skills I was trained in by one of my own mentors, Bobby Lamar "Lucky" McDaniel, back in 1981 [ wow, it's been 33 years? Where'd the time go? ].
I knew the below line of sight QK Rifle/shottie skills wouldn't be a problem, everyone gets that in less than 5 minutes and I've trained numerous people with the below line of sight skill over the years [ but not in a formal class setting ]. The aerials would be the test of my ability to transfer the gift I'd been given long ago. to others.
Suffice to say, as you've so eloquently elaborated here, I can bring that skill to the plate in a course of fire with better than acceptable results. No one heard it, but as the afternoon wore on and people were starting to "get in the zone" busting the birds with repeatedly, there was a huge sigh of relief, we'd be "good to go" for future instinctive rifle/shottie courses of fire if there were enough interested. Personal results of the students notwithstanding, I am elated everyone kept at it until they "got it" and they worked through their, at times, frustrations and ended up walking the path of enlightenment regarding the natural abilities they've always possessed but never knew [ or believed ] they'd ever be capable of without years of training and practice.
Kudos to everyone are certainly in order here. You guys [ no gals in the course ] worked through the drills/skills, and walked through the doors I opened this weekend. I'm proud of every one of you folks who attended and walked the path of enlightenment once again. You people OWN these rifle/shottie Quick Kill instinctive skills, and I couldn't be more proud of everyone's attention and commitment to walk through that door and gain the knowledge [ not sure if it's college level, but we'll go with the "college of knowledge" on this one as well ]
What can I say Tom, you have become a source of inspiration for me. The biggest thrill and satisfaction I could possibly experience is when I see those light bulbs go off and people mentally "turn on" to the skills I present in the courses. It's more rewarding for me to see this happening in front of me than people could ever know. I appreciate and respect your thoughts, your abilities and your dedication to be the sponge.
Thank you for being there for me once again. I had a blast watching all of you turn on to these skills. Safe travels sir. !!!
Thought some might enjoy the reviews and find it something they may want to explore in the future.
The visible in flight, colored 6mm pellets show you what you did, right or wrong. That instaneous feedback, hooked up to your eye-hand coordination, makes you a lot better shottist, really quickly. Most misses are due to poor trigger control, not bad sighting. Most flinching is due to noise, not recoil. Shooting without ear protection, even while hunting and only 1 shot per day, is still likely to inculcate a flinch, cause it is actually damaging your ears. Same thing if anything, like burning powder flakes or lube that is flung off of an autoloader's slide or bolt that strikes your face, especially in or near your eyes. It's likely to make you start flinching. So wear eye protection whenever you shoot, too. Airsoft and BB's bouce off of things, and can hit you in the eye, mighty easily. Eye surgery is delicate and expensive. Infections in one eye easily spread to the other eye, too. You've only got two, and if you lose the use of one, you've lost your depth perception. That is a bad handicap for driving a car, for instance.
