Just Can't Trust my PM9 for EDC

[wow6599]

Just dug up the receipt, purchased 11/13/1010.

Then they should fix it at no cost to you. I would raise hell......ask for the supervisor in charge; tell them to look at some of the pics / threads here on THR. Don't give up.

I am a big Kahr fan, but if they don't honor their warranty, then they are not a company anyone should do business with. To me, it doesn't matter if you ran 600, 6,000, or 60,000 rds through it - it's under the warranty your given when you bought it.

I'm a PM9 owner and hope you keep trying to get it resolved. Please update if anything changes.

 

[gb6491]

Stuff breaks, so I'm not upset that it broke, Im upset that they are offering EAA level of customer support -- basically nothing, send it back at your expense and we will tell you how much we'll charge to fix it

I understand being upset with having to foot the shipping costs (have had to do it myself with several different firearms), but am I understanding this correctly in that Kahr hasn't seen this pistol yet to make a determination if the repair is covered under warranty or not?

For the record, I like Kahr pistols. I had some issues with my CW45, but once those were worked out (didn't send it back) it's been rock solid. The CW9 has been good to go from day one (though I did buy it used). Now that said, I do think Kahr customer service and Kahr magazines could stand improvement.

Regards,
Greg

 

[wally]

Then they should fix it at no cost to you. I would raise hell......ask for the supervisor in charge; tell them to look at some of the pics / threads here on THR. Don't give up.

I may eventually but right now I've got more important things on my plate, my Mon has been taken ill, possibly terminal, too soon to be sure.
I'm just killing some time at the moment during the wait for more test results to come in.

 

[JimC]

I just received an email response from Matt @ Kahr Arms CS.
He is sending a new recoil assembly out to replace the one that failed in my PM9.

 

[orionengnr]

I've had my PM9 since 2005 or so. It still works just fine.
Mine's recoil spring assembly has never come un-done. Maybe I'll take it apart and put a drop of Loc-Tite on it. Probably not, though.

I've been around long enough to have seen both the ejector rods and the strain screws on revolvers come unscrewed and cause the revolver to either tie up or fail to fire. Threaded fasteners can come un-done. It doesn't happen often, but it happens. That's why they invented Loc-Tite.

I also have a P45 that I bought about a year after the PM9. It, too, works fine. Had a PM45 briefly, and it worked fine too--a friend still owns it.

My LGS just today told me that I will soon be receiving the CW380 that I've been awaiting for quite a while. I'm looking forward to trying it out.

 

[JimC]

The retaining nut on the CM and PM9 recoil assemblies coming loose or flying off and not being found is a well documented problem on another Kahr specific forum.
I never thought I would have that problem with mine due to the number of rounds thru my PM9 and changing the unit out as per the recommendation of Kahr CS if the gun was used as a EDC gun. They recommend every 1200-1500 rds. if a EDC gun.
Followers breaking is another well documented issue. By Kahr paying to have guns sent in and modifying the feed ramp it is admitting to the issue IMO.
I had to send my PM9 in earlier this year for this after breaking three followers in 300 or so rounds.
They are now experiencing guns failing to fire when the trigger is pulled ALL the way to the rear. Trigger bars that are too long?
As a retired LEO firearms instructor, armorer and very experienced firearm user, I would never recommend the use of Loctite to resolve an issue such as this when it comes to an EDC gun.
Replace the part and rely on the new part or take the gun out of service.

 

[Fleetman]

I have and carry a PM45....probably has over 2k rounds through it and I've never had any type of malfunction.

 

[plateshooter]

The retaining nut vanished on my CM9 too. I emailed Kahr and they sent me a new recoil spring assembly. The problem was that it was too short for the CM9. I took the retainer off of it and put it on my original assembly. I used red locktite. Whatever they had on the original one was some brownish goo. Gun is back up and running again. Waiting to see what the next adventure will be with that thing. When it runs, it is a great pistol for my uses. After the feed ramp mod, broken followers, the retainer going into space, I hope I am done repairing it and can now just enjoy shooting it.

 

[wow6599]

The retaining nut on the CM and PM9 recoil assemblies coming loose or flying off and not being found is a well documented problem on another Kahr specific forum.

This is the only problem I have experienced, and it happened somewhere between rds 150 and 200......but it still ran.

I spoke with the British CS rep, and I jumped all over him. He said I could go to their website and order a new one, I told him BS - he could send me one free of charge.

I had a new one in a few days.

 

[Potatohead]

Just dug up the receipt, purchased 11/13/1010.

1010? I'd say your warranty is up

 

[krupparms]

I have a PM9. It only has about 300rds thru it. The magazines don't want to hold rounds well. After reading this I will be getting rid of it! Won't deal with companys with poor C.S.! Kahr needs to get its act together if they want to stay around!