Just on TV in South Florida, Assault Rifles

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Those that fail to remember history, are doomed to repeat it!

Why the heck did my post get deleted? In response to Romma's post, all I said was I hope people get the history they deserve since they FAIL to remember it. It wasn't directed towards jews, but anyone in that category. Some pretty thin skin here, I guess. :rolleyes:
 
I doubt florida will let the bill pass because florida is a very pro-gun state compared to most states out there especially California.
 
Jorg,you never got an answer ,but here is a very interesting essay on why Jews think the way they do about gun control:

http://www.jtf.org/israel/israel.why.jews.must.oppose.gun.control.htm

Fighting to save America and Israel
from Islamic terrorism!


Why Jews Must
Oppose Gun Control

(Originally published by JTF.ORG on November 25, 1998)

A little Jewish boy in the doomed Warsaw ghetto

"Every Jew a .22" was the slogan of Rabbi Meir Kahane, pictured as a soldier in the Israel Defense Forces

"Every Jew a .22" was a slogan coined by HaRav (The Rabbi) Meir Kahane, zecher tzadik livracha (may the memory of this saint be immortalized). HaRav Kahane actually preferred other guns to the small-caliber .22, but used this slogan because it rhymes.

The concept that every Jew must possess firearms and know how to use them is not a new one.

"Jews, learn to shoot!" - Right-wing Jewish activist Zeev Jabotinsky vainly pleaded with Europe's Jews to arm themselves on the eve of the Holocaust

"Jews, learn to shoot!" right-wing Zionist leader Zeev Jabotinsky exhorted the Jews of Europe in the 1920s and 1930s.

But many European Jews were horrified with the notion of Jews bearing arms. So European Jews remained unarmed and defenseless, and when the Germans and the many other European Jew-killers came to murder them in the Holocaust, the Jews were easy targets as usual.


Millions of Germans owned guns in the Weimar Republic, which preceded the Nazi rise to power - In the face of left-wing advocacy for gun confiscation - an advocacy in which left-wing Jews played a prominent role - the Nazis promised to keep gun ownership legal, a promise promptly broken by Hitler after he seized power

Because they had no guns, millions of European Jews were led to their deaths like sheep to the slaughter

In pre-Hitler Weimar Germany, the Jews frantically pushed for strict gun control legislation.

Germans, especially in rural areas, were enraged over this attempt to take their weapons. Hitler and the Nazis campaigned on a promise to protect the "historic German right to bear arms."

Hitler promised that he would void all "Jew-inspired anti-gun laws" if elected Chancellor.


After the "broken glass" pogrom of November 1938, in which hundreds of Jews were beaten to death by Hitler's Nazi stormtroopers and ordinary German citizens, "all persons considered Jews under the Nuremberg laws" were forbidden to own guns

Of course, Hitler and the Nazis broke their promise when they did actually seize power in 1933. One of the first things the Nazis did was to seize the vast majority of guns which law-abiding citizens had in their possession.

But the point here is that gun control efforts by the Jews were instrumental in giving Hitler crucial ammunition which helped him to take over Germany and implement the Holocaust.


Heroic Jewish freedom fighters of the Warsaw ghetto, armed mostly with pistols, held off the German Nazi army while the world watched in amazement

Furthermore, if the Jews had listened to Jabotinsky and were all armed and fully trained, it would have been far more difficult to annihilate them.

When there were only 50,000 Jewish men, women and children left in the Warsaw Ghetto, these heroic Jews who finally decided to resist held out longer against the German Wehrmacht than all of cowardly France, which had a larger standing army than Germany but surrendered almost immediately to the Nazis. Even though the Jews were divided and fighting among themselves until the end, with their home-made weapons they killed several thousand German soldiers and bogged down the German Army for weeks.

Imagine if millions of Jews, fully armed and trained, had put up this type of resistance.

We know from the resistance put up by other groups targeted for annihilation during World War II, such as the valiant Serbs, that ferocious
armed struggle frustrated German plans to wipe them out.


Armed Serbian resistance fighters ferociously struggled against the Nazis,
preventing them from completely exterminating the Serb population

But the Jews always make the wrong decisions. The Jews always trust those who wish to destroy them and mistrust those like Jabotinsky who come to save them.

When Rabbi Kahane urged Jews in America to arm and train themselves, he was condemned in the same manner as Jabotinsky.

Imagine if during the Crown Heights pogrom, the Hassidic Jews had listened to Rabbi Kahane. Would the black Jew-haters have been able to rampage and murder in a Jewish community for four days and nights with no resistance? Would Yankel Rosenbaum have been murdered if he had drawn a .45 on the black Nazi mob that came to murder him?


Allied soldiers and a pile of bodies at the Buchenwald death camp

Gun control laws accomplish a number of things, and all of them are terrible. They take guns out of the hands of law-abiding citizens so that it becomes impossible to defend one's home or business from murderous criminals. These fascistic laws also ensure that the only people in society who will be armed will be the violent criminals, since they will obtain their illegal firearms no matter what the law says.

These laws, which self-hating Jewish traitors like our new Judenrat Senator, Schmuck Schumer, play such a prominent role in passing, also cause tremendous anti-Semitic resentment.

Worst of all, these laws render Jews who wish to defend themselves helpless in the face of numerous mortal threats that very much endanger the American Jewish community.

Would criminal black mobs have rampaged in the peaceful Jewish neighborhood of Brooklyn's Crown Heights if every Jew there had been armed? - The New York Post featured a picture of an Orthodox boy squatting next to his father, beaten senseless by bestial black Jew-haters. (The "fair and balanced" headline reads: "Blacks, Jews and cops battle in the streets".)

The Kahanist Jews and righteous Gentiles of JTF oppose all laws that in any way limit the Second Amendment right to bear arms. Such laws are unconstitutional, un-American and immoral.

Isn't it a disgrace that JTF does not have millions of dollars to reach all of the Jews in Israel with this vital message?

Especially now when most Israeli Jews are very disappointed with how the war in Lebanon was conducted, and are very fearful about the future. The time is ripe for JTF's message.

Now more than ever, we must reach as many Israeli Jews as possible with our vital message of truth.

The more money we raise, the more Jews we reach.

Jewish advocacy of gun confiscation in the United States causes tremendous anti-Semitism - Senator Charles Schumer hypocritically enjoys the armed protection from crime which he denies "ordinary" Americans. (During a 1990s Congressional investigation into gun confiscation, Schumer joined black Congressman Mel Reynolds (D-IL), later convicted of pedophilia, in verbally attacking a young woman, the survivor of a Texas restaurant massacre, who testified that, had she been armed, her parents might still be alive.)

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I doubt florida will let the bill pass because florida is a very pro-gun state compared to most states out there especially California.

Amen brother. It ain't gonna happen. There are not that many liberal counties in this state. As many Northeast liberals as there are in counties like Miami-Dade and Palm Beach, there are as many counties like Polk that are filled with citizens from the Midwest who still have family there. Hopefully, we can become stronger in population in the Red counties. I am in Pinellas county (St. Petersburg, Clearwater). There are plenty of gun stores and people from the Midwest. Even much of the Democratic base here is pro-gun. They are the old school Dems who vote party lines. (Many of them aren't going to vote Democratic next election because they don't like Hitlary or Obama). Most of them are the old school (Midwest union-oriented or Southern Dems) who relocated down here.

I have faith in Florida citizens to vote Pro-Gun. That doesn't mean that I won't be pushing/dragging/educating them on the positives of gun ownership.

Thankfully, the Cubans are Pro-gun because they are fresh out of a country ruled by a dictator that isn't exactly popular. Hopefully they will rub off on their Hispanic brethren.


I am worried about young voters in the next election that are motivated by race and race only. In the last national election the Dems said they would come out "in droves" to vote for Kerry.

Only 11% more came out in 2004 vs. 2000. So in 2004 that means only 47% of 18-24 year olds voted. I guarantee that will be drastically increased in the upcoming election if Obama runs.

MTV and affiliated networks will make it their job to socially pressure people into voting for Obama based on race alone. It will basically turn into, "If you don't vote for Obama, you are a racist." At the very best you will be labeled as being prejudiced.


Honestly, I am worried about a new "assault weapon" ban on a national level. We very possibly may have a Dem in the White House with a Democratic Congress.

We could be in for a fight boys and girls. Scratch that. We very possibly are in for a fight that has potential to turn into one of the most harrowing struggles we will see in the next decade.

I'm more worried about what will happen on the national front than some pissant newspaper is tossing bs propaganda about.
 
It's not just the jews, either. Millions have been slaughtered at the hands of their "leadership" after being disarmed...or never being allowed to arm themselves in the first place. Russians, Chinese, Africans, SE Asians (Cambodia/Laos/Vietnam/Korea)...the list goes on. :fire:
 
BruceRDucer, funny you should bring up the lack of US Citizens in North Cuba.

My friend in VA tells me that he had to show a passport and prove his citizenship to buy something that holds more than 20 rds.

While not a major proponent of gun control, something about that appeals to me somehow.
 
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