Just Right Carbine or another AR?

[GarySTL]

I have several ARs in 223 & 6.8spc and have a yet for something in 9mm. I could get a 9mm upper for one of my lowers or a complete rifle. I'd need sights of some sort of course, but this is just a fun toy so I don't need anything too fancy. Probably a red dot of some kind.

The just right carbine has caught my eye as a possible alternative. I've read a review or two and they seen fairly positive but knock it down for using Philips head screws, no bolt catch etc. They use glock magazines and I don't own any glock, but their magazines are easily available. I seem to pick them up at matches all the time, I just need to stop handing them back.

The 9mm ARs also use glock magazines so that's not really a factor I guess. The just right can change calibers from 9mm to 40 and 45 cheaper than the AR, but I'd probably not do that anyway.

So tell me about your Just Right Carbine vs 9mm AR.

Thanks.

 

[tahunua001]

the just right is cheaper, the controls are different. a 9mm AR just about necessitates a dedicated lower, no swapping calibers unless you like fine tuning the magwell block and swapping hammers. I own 3 ARs, 1 in 9mm, I love it, it's everything an AR15 should be. just right... pretty much just looks like an AR15, no parts commonality and like I said, different controls.

 

[BCRider]

If you're considering a dedicated 9mm then also look at the Thureon Defense carbine. I find that it looks and feels a little slimmer and trimmer and more what I'd want in a PCC. I doubt if there's any performance gains but I just liked the slightly shorter and tighter fit over the longer JR as well as the skinnier look

 

[LS240]

Have you thought about a Kel Tec SUB2000? They're more compact, fold in half for storage, and take your choice of Glock or Beretta mags. Of course, the downside would be trying to get hold of any Kel Tec product lol.

 

[GarySTL]

I didn't know the Keltech came in 9mm. Looks like I need to do more research. I'm about an hours drive from Black Rifle in Columbia MO. I might see what they have. On the phone they said they had both 9mm pistols and carbines. I didn't know that the hammer and magwell block presented issues.

 

[carbine85]

I don't have any experience with the Just Right Carbine but have had bad experiences with 2 different Keltecs. You get what you pay for, a cheap plastic gun. Their service is good but guns are junk IMHO.

 

[GarySTL]

It nice if the service is good, but it's better to never need to use it. Of course anything designed and manufactured by man is subject to failures.

I'll go look for threads on AR15 dot com.

 

[tahunua001]

if you come across a guy there with issues that has the same name as this guy, don't worry bout it, found out they were just garbage magazines.

 

[grter]

I would really consider the good old Hi Point carbine.

 

[dprice3844444]

mechtechsys.com uses glock lowers on their uppers
http://www.mechtechsys.com/glock.php
https://www.lonewolfdist.com/Products.aspx?CAT=3682
http://www.shop.doublediamondsupply.com/

 

[MCgunner]

I've thought a bit about this, but I'm not really into pistol caliber carbines except for the magnum revolver rounds which turn into rifle rounds out of 20" of barrel. I prefer the traditional, though, and my .22 caliber version of this carbine is way fun.

This is from Legacy Sports/Chiappa. It uses Beretta magazines.

 

[tahunua001]

I can't speak for the quality of chippa PCCs but the 22lr versions went through a pretty major recall not long ago.

 

[Assault]

I owned 2 Kel-Tec Sub 2000 (used glock mags). Both in 9mm. I paired them up with a Ruger 10-22 TAKEDOWN. Awsome grab and go bag. Never had an issue with either Kel-Tec. On the flip slide, the bolt extension doesn't like dirt/grime nor to run dry. Shot every bit of 1000+ rounds thru both carbines

 

[BSA1]

I handled one at LGS. The Glock magazine shifted back and forth after it was locked into place. Clerk said they sell a lot of them. I said not to me as I handed it back to him.

 

[GarySTL]

There's a gun show this weekend so I'll be looking to see what might be available. Thanks for all the input so far.

 

[GarySTL]

No carbines purchased at the gun show.

I bought a M&P 22 instead.

 

[Ibmikey]

Gary, did you get the M&P 15-22 or pistol ? Both are great .22's. Back to 9mm check the PSA website as they are offering an AR carbine in that cal. I have a Colt 6450 9mm from a few years back and it is great fun, uses Colt or modified Uzi mags.

 

[GarySTL]

I bought the pistol and am thinking about the compact as well. I'd handled M&Ps before and didn't like the hinged trigger. But now that I've shot one I realize it's not an issue at all. I think it's going to be a good gun, not a target gun of course, but a good carry around the property and plink with. Already tried it with my 22 suppressor and it's nice.

 

[mstreddy]

OP, I know that you picked up a pistol, but if not too late, here is my take on your question above

So tell me about your Just Right Carbine vs 9mm AR.

I own both a Just Right Carbine in 40 S&W and a Bushmaster Carbon 15 in 9MM.
The Carbon 15 is an AR, yes, Polymer, and a dedicated platform as it's a molded mag well. It uses Colt pattern 9MM mags. The controls are all common to the AR platform. Being polymer it is light weight and quite handy.

The Just Right is "AR Like". It's not true AR pattern, the controls are different, the ergonomics are a little off from an AR. Take down is unique and not at all like an AR, and requires tools. A plus for me is that is uses Glock mags, and me being a Glock owner, makes it easy. Another advantage for me is that they do sell a conversion kit and you can switch it to 9MM. Or vice-verso. I actually bought the 9MM kit, but haven't had a chance to swap it out yet.
I bought the Just Right shortly before I heard about the Lone Wolf coming out with the Glock mag AR. I've never seen a real live Lone Wolf carbine anywhere though.

A buddy of mine who posts here, Quags, built up a 9MM AR using one of the mag well adapters and is quite happy with it. I'll contact him and have him provide his input if you like.

 

[wally]

I didn't know that the hammer and magwell block presented issues.

The hammer only causes issues with certain 9mm bolt carriers -- the RAA carrier requires a "9mm hammer", the CMMG 9mm carrier works fine with a standard un-notched hammer.

The mag block is only an issue if you get a top loading one -- which will require removing/replacing the bolt hold open (a PITA to change). But you can get a bottom loading mag block that "locks in" with a hex head setscrew.

Most of the Glock mag ARs are dedicated lowers and generally don't activate the bolt hold open. Olympic used to make a top load Glock mag block, but it required some milling of the upper (I have one in .40S&W).

 

[cpt-t]

GarySTL: My Son and I bought two KEL-TEC SUB 2000`s several years ago, one in 9MM and one in 40 S&W. I was really sceptial of them at first, but they are a real hoot to shoot. They don`t weigh any thing, and you can carry them all day with out any problems and they fold in half. We use extended Glock Mag`s in both of them. We have shot them both, many times and have had no problems, with either of them. And IMHO they are very accurate for what they are and trouble free. I also have and shoot a Semi Auto Model 9mm ((( STERLING ))) and it is just great to shoot,and have never had any kind of a problem`s with it, but it is heavy. I carried a for real ((( STERLING ))) in Viet Nam some, back in the 60`s & 70`s, and I was very impressed with that weapon, you would really have to try to damage one of them even with hard use in the field . And I never had any type of problem`s, with the Full Auto Model either it always fired.You can`t get any better than that.
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[GarySTL]

Thanks for all the additional input. I'll have to look at a 9mm Keltec if I can find one locally. Wyndom is supposed to have a 9mm AR coming too.

 

[OilyPablo]

I was eyeballing this: http://www.qcircle10.com

I really want an AR 9mm, .40SW, 10mm, or .45ACP and I too cannot decide which path to take.

I have a Camp 9 and a Camp 45.

 

[highpower]

I have never been able to see the value in a 9mm rifle/carbine length gun. While the 9mm has a great deal going for it in a handgun or submachine gun, there is just not enough down range energy to make them very useful.

However, having a real need or use for anything has never stopped me from wanting it. If my ship ever comes in, I want a SBR Uzi. If it was up to me, I would opt for a upper for one of your existing lowers.

 

[Dr.Rob]

That Chiappa is neat, I didn't expect it to use existing mags.