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Has anyone had any experience with the Ka-Bar next generation fighting utility knife with serrated edge? I plan on using it for life and death combat only/ self defense carry not worried about cutting trees down with it or using it as a hammer. How well made is the plastic locking sheath that comes with it?
 
Somewhat Large?

Uh, Mike?

You live in New York, and you propose to carry a 7-inch fixed blade knife?

With regard to quality, I don't imagine there would be a problem with either the knife itself or the sheath.

However, the whole "large knife" thing raises questions.

Perhaps you could clarify?

Flesh out the details a little?

 
Strappin' Steel

You know, where I live, I could strap on a seven or eight inch blade, tie it down on one thigh, and carry a full-sized axe over my shoulder, and it might get the occasional look. And if I grew a serious beard, maybe not even the occasional look.

But this ain't Gnu Yawk, not even Upstate.

So you'll understand if I have . . . questions.

 
unless you're deploying to Afghanistan, or some other backwater country, or plan on hiking the entire length of the Appalachian Trail, you have no use for a knife for "life and death" combat, unless you plan on engaging someone in some back alley in New York. in which case, your post can be used as evidence as something premeditated.:scrutiny:
 
There are more life and death encounters any day in any big city than in whole western states.
Whether it's smart to carry such a knife in the poster's legal jurisdiction doesn't change that.

When I was a kid I sometimes carried the similar but shorter Air Force 'survival' knife on the bus and around town. Concealed. Why? Because I didn't have a firearm.
Once in New York City on the subway I saw a black woman pull out a machete from under her long African skirts to threaten another passenger.
The poster wants to carry that knife for the same reasons many of you carry a firearm. It should be his right, no questions asked.
 
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There was an officer who was carrying a Marine Fighting Knife attached to one of our units when I was in Afghanistan. We thought it was pretty funny. :)

I caught some comments with my fixed blade, and it was only a 5" blade...and I was an infantryman.
 
There are more life and death encounters any day in any big city than in whole western states.
Whether it's smart to carry such a knife in the poster's legal jurisdiction doesn't change that.

When I was a kid I sometimes carried the similar but shorter Air Force 'survival' knife on the bus and around town. Concealed. Why? Because I didn't have a firearm.
Once in New York City on the subway I saw a black woman pull out a machete from under her long African skirts to threaten another passenger.
The poster wants to carry that knife for the same reasons many of you carry a firearm. It should be his right, no questions asked.
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yeah, well, in NYC, it's illegal to carry around a machete. are you suggesting it's okay to break the law? it's not a question if "it should be his right," it's a matter of "is it within his rights?" if the OP is in NYC, then it's not, and it's not wise for us to advise him otherwise. i can't think of ANY big city where it's okay to carry a large knife around, besides cities in FL or AZ.
 
Ok not much help here guys didn't want legal advice already no the laws for my state. I live in New York State not New York City. No part of the Penal Law for The State Of New York menations blade lenght in sections 265.00-265.40. I always carry a copy of the penal law book with me. Scond i'm currently in the Buffalo police academy and wish for a knife to carry on duty. Please don't comment on my wish to carry a knife on duty. All I posted here for was to get some honset reviews of a product I was looking into getting. This much info should not be requried to give just so people know you have a reason to carry such a knife. I know police can get switch blades but I like a fixed blade.
 
jahwarrior said:
unless you're deploying to Afghanistan, or some other backwater country, or plan on hiking the entire length of the Appalachian Trail, you have no use for a knife for "life and death" combat, unless you plan on engaging someone in some back alley in New York. in which case, your post can be used as evidence as something premeditated.:scrutiny:
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Just but combat since all the youtube videos for this knife talk about cutting down trees and spliting firewood with it. Not what the knife was made for.
 
Uh, Mike?

You live in New York, and you propose to carry a 7-inch fixed blade knife?
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Uh, arfingreebly he may take the 7 inch camping or maybe hunting

what is wrong with all ya'll ever look at a map? If you did you would notice theres more to NY than NYC. I believe the adirondaks is 6 million acres. It is bigger than yellowstone, yosemite, great smokies, great cantou and glacier parks combined. thats just the adirondaks. So...... theres lots of places in NY that a knife can come in handy.
 
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I plan on using it for life and death combat only / self defense carry
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. . . in New York.

Perhaps I could be forgiven for imagining that "combat" isn't something that normally happens in the great outdoors?

My question would have been very different if he had said "camping and hiking." However, that wasn't the application specified.

 
i'm currently in the Buffalo police academy and wish for a knife to carry on duty.
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I'd bet my booty there isn't a police force in the United States that will allow you to carry a 7" Ka-Bar on your duty belt. Unless you are a spec-ops spook of some kind that goes to work in full battle dress.

Most cops I know prefer a 4", or less, all black tactical folder.
It is inconspicuous amongst your other gear, and will handle 99.99% of the cutting chores a cop will encounter in a lifetime.

Which will mostly involve seat belts in wrecked cars, kiddie hair stuck in a bicycle chain, and submarine sandwiches!

I pity the poor cop that whipped out a 7" Ka-Bar and used it on a civilian!!

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plan on using it for life and death combat only/ self defense carry
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Hmm ok i admit i dont know anyone that carries ka-bars 24-7. And I did jump in the defense side of the argument. But for the record its only illegal to carry non folders in NYC and I think one other place in NY.
 
This is one of those threads that ...... requires more than one read. I can't answer the questions about the knife itself, or whether carrying it is legal (or a good idea...). I was never without a good knife in police work, whether on the street or behind a desk. Most of my officers also carried a good, sharp blade - none of them ever carried anything that might draw any notice until it was needed whether it was in a pouch on their duty gear or was just kept in a pants pocket.

Since the original poster is currently in a police academy.... there are one or two things that need saying. In any halfway competent police agency there willl be field training officers, with appropriate supervisors and a serious in-depth program to train and evaluate any new recruit from that first application, through the Academy, and out onto the street. Everyone that deals with the recruit will be required to say in writing whether they're progressing satsfactorily or not.... given where they are in the process.

Most that I know (and I was in charge of that sort of stuff for three years in a nationally accredited agency) expect a certain amount of foolish ideas and certainly some questionable behavior from time to time as a newby is learning the job and becoming part of a team actually doing the job.... Mistakes that aren't corrected, any sign that a recruit wants to make the job "exciting", and he/she will be out of a job so fast they'll still be trying to figure it out years later. At least that's my take on it. Leave the extra gear and other daydreams for a time when you actually know the job and have done everything possible to make your agency glad they brought you on board. Anything else is just plain foolish (and that's from a guy who may have been the worst rookie that any outfit ever held onto...).

and by the way... good luck.
 
I plan on using it for life and death combat only/ self defense carry not worried about cutting trees down
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Gecko45,.....is that you!?!? We missed you so much.
 
yeah, well, in NYC, it's illegal to carry around a machete. are you suggesting it's okay to break the law? it's not a question if "it should be his right," it's a matter of "is it within his rights?" if the OP is in NYC, then it's not, and it's not wise for us to advise him otherwise. i can't think of ANY big city where it's okay to carry a large knife around, besides cities in FL or AZ.
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I'm not advising the poster to do anything. I'm just saying...cities are dangerous places...and gave an example.
Whether it's "OK" to break the law depends on the law. Stupid laws are broken constantly, everywhere.
"Rights" are not given or granted by men, please note - "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..." Such as the right to self-defense.
 
I DON"T LIVE IN NYC i live in ELMA which is a small town with plenty of woods and trees. I own land and is very commion to incounter drunks, potheads, hunters and pelople who shouldn't be there. So instead of carry a gun every time I walk in my backyard i carry a knife.
 
I am closing the thread because it's run its course, and it appears the thread can only devolve from here.

Anyone who posts their motivation should not be surprised when members comment on what they have posted.
 
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