KA residents: How many of you had the chance to move out of Kali and did NOT?

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This was first posted on calguns.net. Here is the link.

How many of you had (or even have) the opportunity to move out of this Commie State but did not? And why? And do you regret it to this day?

My story: 10+ years ago after college, I had the chance to move to Seattle. I was a international businss grad and at the time, trading and shipping was big, especially in Seattle where they did lots of business with Japan. However, my parents asked me to stay, I got a new girlfriend, new job, etc., so I stayed. BOY am I kickin' myself now! I could be living in Bellevue/Seattle, have a CCW, and all the "assault hardware" I need! :cuss:

Hmm....Perhaps it's not too late? :rolleyes:
 
I was born and raised in California. I've lived in NYC, NJ, Connecticut, and Colorado. Always came back to California and despite the political climate here will never leave permanently. It's home and always will be.
 
Lived here pretty much all my life. Family and Friends are here. No chance of me cutting those ties. It is a great state, if not for four things. SF, LA, Boxer and Swinestein.

Besides I have a CCW and a healthy collection of registered AW's. Only thing that bugs me is that I can't legally pass them down to my kids (when I have them). But actually by the time I'm ready to retire, me and the misses are moving to a friendlier state. Preferable, where we live far away from any major cities.
 
I had the opportunity when I did my grad school applications. When it came down to it, of all the schools I got into the best one was in California. I have lived here all of my life, I love it here. I hate the laws and wish I could own an AR-15, but like others I have friends and family that are more important to me than my guns. Perhaps when I finish school my career will take me elsewhere.
 
I've always lived in California and everything I know is here. Besides, I have hope that in 20 years the political climate will flip in Sacramento. With all of those liberal nutbags getting their abortions hopefully a little scarring of the uterus will prevent reproduction. :evil:
 
so, wait, lemme get this straight:

you made the choice of family, relationship, and employment - but you regret it because you'd rather have more guns? :confused:

are you sure you have your priorities straight? or was your post meant to be humorous and i completely failed to pick up on it?
 
Born and raised in Texas here with no intention of leaving. However, If I were to live somewhere else it wouldnt be the PRK. You couldn't pay or threaten me enough to live there.
 
screw that! there is nothing i love more than calling my parents in NY (like i did today) and telling them how nice it was, SUN!

gun laws are such a small part of the big picture. there's more money to be made here, i could never live this three work day week anywhere else, i can be a freak, and 215. legal herb!

heck, here i can just drive out into the woods and shoot if i want.

no country music (hahaha just had to poke a little fun at y'all)

people are (outside of the gun issue) mroe accepting of others here. it's like a real America. i don't have to be just like my neighbor to get along here.

i could leave any time i want, i have multiple oppurtunities in other states. but Cali is where it's at. Girls, girls girls. lots of fun to be had all over.

besides, somebody has to be here to try and save what's left of the 2nd here.

man, with all the forests to shoot in do you really think we pay attenention to the rules???????

here's a good one= four of my buddies are in the woods, shooting in a little spot off a dirt road. FULL on , all kinds of stuff.
police officer drives by. ONE police officer. he looks a minute. he drives away.

it's not nearly as bad as you think, the real problem for most people outside of here i think is that us Cali people dont stand for redneck nonsense.

meaning= people will do what they want. they will be gay, atheists, weirdos, not cut their hair. and we let 'em.

if it wasnt for a bunch of gangster jerks in the hard parts of the city, these gun laws wouldnt be so bad here.
there are a LOT more shooters here than you all think.
people forget that HALF the pop in CA is in the hills and other rural areas, and these people have guns.

they change the laws, we ignore them., the cops are going after the criminals, not going door to door looking for AP or big mags
 
Wow, Thorn, your little thesis is so mind-boggling I can't come up with words to rebut any of it ...

Well, I did live in California, for almost half of my adult life. Bay area and San Diego county ... Of course, if you can live with the ridiculous traffic, the high crime rates, the sky-high taxes, the high cost of living, the trash along every public thoroughfare, the polluted air, the incredible numbers of illegal aliens, the lunatics in your state legislature and city councils, the huge numbers of unnecessary laws and regulations, the miles and miles of strip malls, convenience stores and overpriced gas stations, the insane bureaucracy of every state agency, the sheer horrifying numbers of inhabitants living on public assistance of one type or another ... then have at it.

Of course, you do have some decent weather and actual females down there. But hey, we've had a couple days of sun up here, temps in the 60s and yesterday I saw a couple girls who weren't wearing parkas. Me, I escaped California a few years ago and haven't looked back.
 
old dog nailed it...

i was born and raised in los angeles... lived down in san diego for a bit, too.

i left, and haven't regretted it one bit. gun laws is what drove me to leave. decided one day it was time to go... sold everything i had, including my car, gave away everything else, packed a single bag of clothes and toiletries, and got a ride to the greyhound station. that was 9 years ago, now...

i'm much happier now, and have no intention of going back, ever. for those of you who choose to stay there, good on ya, like the man said, somebody's gotta fight for the 2nd there.
 
Thorn,

You're kidding, right? I have spent over 47 years in Orange County and now almost 13 years in the SF Bay area and I am surrounded by people that want to be just like their neighbors in a most aggressive way. Berkeley is just another trend like Yuppies, gangstas, etc. I have to look VERY hard for other independents--just aren't many. The great unwashed masses are all on stage, discourteous and grubby egomaniacs. Soccer moms to the 100th degree.

Total contrast to the well mannered driver who stopped for me to cross in a remote pedestrain walkway at 1:00 A.M. in Norman, OK. They even say "sir" and "ma'am" and mean it. Took me a while to adjust.

On the other hand, as I've said repeatedly, we have an amazing array of gun clubs and ranges. Great competition opportunities, good relationships while on range.

I did, in fact, try several times to get out of the state. Unfortunately my job skills are very narrow and I am stuck here until I become imaginitive enough to come up with something different or retire.

In the late 80s I made a try at a job in Australia. I was given an offer, but my wife put the nix on it as she still wasn't in the mood to be that close to her relatives. She now regrets that and I celebrate it as I wasn't a shooter at the time and wouldn't want to deal with the Austalian attitude now.

I tried an in-company transfer to Wilsonville, Oregon two or three years ago, but I guess they couldn't believe I was willing to take a 40% cut in pay to move out of California. With the cost of living there we could have easily done it and lived at the same level we are here. Turns out that was a time when Xerox had laid off workers and they decided to assist the locals that had no job rather than a Californian (they hate us anyway) who just wanted to change locations.
 
Me too,

I remember several years ago reading about Skunkster hoping to escape, but I think he never did. I did several months ago, and I LOVE it. Don't get me wrong, California is the greatest state in the US, the problem is too many people agree with me. It's too crowded. And crowds bring liberal ideas and loss of gun rights. Look at NYC. It wa such a thrill to walk into my first gun show in four years that had ARs and AKs, and everything else under the sun. People walked around selling rifles off their backs. I'd forgotten what that felt like. I love the beach, the weather and lots of the people, but I don't miss the hassles and the cost to lifestyle. Come on Skunky, escape! :)
 
I just got here. Came to L.A. from NYC.

Can't complain. At least now I can purchase a handgun.

I guess it's kind of like leaving Nazi Germany for Occupied France. ;)
 
When my chance came I didn't blow it, but I didn't want to go at first. I had owned guns but wasn't really into it like I've been since, and since I had been there my whole life I didn't want to leave. But the wife was going back to Vegas to be near her kids so I went too - best move I ever made.

I hear "well it's sunny here". Here too! "But I have equity in my house". I have WAY more in my house here than I ever had in CA. The price on this house almost doubled within 9 months of us buying it. The only thing I lost is the great bike riding in the Sierras - there's nothing but flatland around here. I just buy full auto guns and AR's and stuff to make up for it. :) Once you experience buying 2 or 3 guns and walking out with them (and not even doing the NICS check because you have a CCW) you don't want to go back to CA way of doing things.
 
Old Dog nailed it.

Born and raised in So Cal. California has a lot of great things going for it, however too many people think so. The crowds and traffic are really too much.

If I was still there I'd be trying to make the best of it too. It's amazing what you find yourself putting up with simply because you've gotten used to it.

I was lucky enough to escape in 92. Still visit once in a while to see the folks.
 
The Golden State

I have lived in Northern California my entire life, in fact I am at least a third generation Californian and the second generation in Humboldt County. My family has been on the West Coast since around 1864. It is the greatest place to live. There is either an ocean or three hours of trees to get to any city of more than 20,000 from here. I hate to consider leaving, but I am tired of being looked at as a criminal just because I am a hunter, shooter and firearms collector. Taxes and other laws do not help either.

My wife and I are thinking of buying a house and property in Oregon. For us, it would only be a hour and a half drive. Since we run our own business, we could schedule things so we could stay 3-4 days a week. Who knows, maybe we could open operations in Oregon.

Still trying to fight for a turn around in the political climate, but starting to scout out a plan "B".
 
I've lived in California for over 30 years. I'm so close to retiring (California State does have a great retirement system) that I'll hang on for a couple more years. Once retired, I'm out of this state.............. :D
 
During my tour in Vietnam 65/66 my wife and the kids moved to a town near SF for a better job opportunity and weather. (We were stationed in Kansas prior) I had always liked the SF Bay Area and sorta fell into staying around. About a year later i found a decent job and stayed for more than 27 years. Thimgs changed for the worse over the years as far as the state in concerned. I would have preferred to move back to Oregon but my arthritis tells me to stay in the PRK.

The ridiculous situation of having two Demoncat senators, DiFi and Boxer(named after the shorts I'm wearing now) is a bit much but I did not vote them in, so my conscience is clear. I did not vote for either Klinton or Bush so my conscience is clear there as well. :cool:

I have had a CCW for about 25 years also and I am still able to shoot when ever I take the time. I need to find a decent rifle range here in the Central Valley and see if I can still handle a rifle as before.

If my HMO was to build a facility in Northern Nevada I would be tempted to move. In fact I would be out of here in 6 to 8 weeks! :)

I moved from the fairly quiet Napa Valley after 25 years. We had very little crime in our village and only one murder in 25 years. Now we are in the Central Valley in the county which is rated the number one in car thefts in the nation. :uhoh: Our son's 95 Integra was stolen the first week of December and found four weeks later in an orchard, stripped of major body parts and other items and then torched. :fire:

This area is also home to several thousand members of the various gangs that run rapant here. A marine from Camp Pendleton went AWOL a few weeks ago and ambushed the police responding to his bogus call for help. He killed one and severly injured another and then was killed in a further confrontation with responding tactical officers. Now the gangs are being rounded up and they are using graffiti tags to taunt the police and threaten retaliation. I do not go out anywhere unarmed. I carry around the house and even in church.

During my 27 years as a treasury officer and 23 as a reserve (concurrently :cool:) I never had such problems as we see in this town. Virtually any time I drive to own I can see gang members or "gangsta" wannabes. Some are just young and foolish but others are as serious as a heart attack. There is a group of senior citizens that work with the PD and SO and are called STARS and some other acronym. They wear a uniform and carry no firearms and just handle traffic, accident reports and the like. When I was a reserve I had full police powers and carried a revolver or a .45 [pistol. I also drove a patrol car and had a decent credential that was good anywhere in the state. I guess I will forgo getting into another uniform, especially if it means going unarmed. I would prefer not having to run down young miscreants on foot any more amyway. :)
 
I guess the big difference for me is i grew up in LI NY, which is worse, much worse in all the things you hate about CA, the pollution bothers me, but it is localised in cities, and is unavoidable.

Also= being a weirdo, CA is way more friendly. i do not do well in the south.
ever seen Easy Rider? that was almost me more than once.

Seriously= i am a firm believer in stand and fight, not run and hide.
(not like i am gonna fight every idiot on the street, i mean that in a political sense)

i will add a photo that shows why i love it here.

I guess ultimately i am not getting along with many people anywhere, so i might as well be where it is warm, beautiful, and money is easier to make here, people spend more.

as far as the cost of living, well you get what you pay for. again i'm from NY, so this is nothing to me.
one thing that does really bother me mroe than anything is the severe lack of god fearing folks around here. Especially in the social scenes i am in.
I guess on some levels i am here on a mission.

My friends are way way bigger gun owners, total NUTs and they wouldnt leave here for anything either.

My experience in traveling the US has been that in most places, people are thinking in very nearby, local terms, but here people are thinking bigger. i dont go anywhere myself, but i enjoy the constant flow of people from around the world (illegals excluded)

and as far as them , the illegals, well gee thanks for running away, and then later crying at me for letting all these foolios through the gate.

if it wasn't for PEOPLE LIKE ME who stay here and vote FOR stuff like 187 i believe it was to try and get these illegals out of our public services,

well guys =

we took/bartered this land because it is beautiful, rich , warm , i could go on forever- i intend to enjoy it.

you all should start fixing the problems instead of complaining about it.
come out here on vacation, register to vote, and vote absentee!
HA!!

me and my friends, well we just keep our stuff buried DEEP in case the time ever comes the rest of you want to help us out.

I am sorry guys, i have been all over 43 states, a lot of it on foot, and things just go better here, the wether's better, the views are better,

Yes, in some ways the things about people being in your business is true, but in a lot of ways, especially compared to the country, it isnt.

I wont go NEAr LA , and i hate the gated communities, but that stuff is all over the US.

I dont feel at all alone as a gun person here.
i live mroe or less in the city, not the Hard city, but populated. it takes five minutes to get here from my house.
15 minutes to downtown SF.

I guess like i said first off, i dont get along much with people or govt anywhere, so might as well have nice scenery, second the scene here with music, girls, wilderness, city, all together, i love it. somebody's got to try and change a few minds.

If what happens here affects you- you should do something other than insult people here to try and fix it.

If what happens here does Not affect you, you should not be complaining, you should allow people to be free to live how they want because you guys are complaining about roe than just gun laws , you are complaining about people. how long could i go on about people in the south, being a Yank and a Cali?
If you live here, and dont like it, try to change things, or MOVE.
telling a bunch of people who dont live here that it sucks isnt fixing anything either, and i could use the extra space.

i think if our boys are brave enough to go fight overseas, the rest of us should be brave enoug to fight at home.

if you think it is a lost cause, give up and bow out already.
But it really seems like most of you have the greater fear that CA laws will spread to your state, and then you can blame us for your problems.

Classic.

Man you guys are way too interesting and informative though, i am up waaaaay too late. whether you hate me for being a CA wacko or not, i really enjoy all this stuff and i am using as much as i can from here to educate the people around me.

something more people need to get a firm grip on, and put to use=

it is no only the duty of a jury to decide guilty or innocence, but to decide whether the law being prosecuted is just.

if every pro gun person leaves Cali, where will we be?

i wont give up whats in this photo becasue of a few jerks

hills1.jpg
 
heHa! my roomate, who grew up CA, as a cattle rancher , now runs a horse stable (40 horses) with his mom about 20 miles from here-

told him of this thread. the response was=

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAahahaha! yeah right, what do you want to live in TX?
ahahahahahahahhaha. the rest of what he said, it would be rude to repeat.

i guess some of you just wont figure it out
 
The first is a picture of my favorite coffee shop.

The second is the view from that table.

(OK-both photos are too big :eek:)

I can't even begin to tell you how good the coffee is.
 
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