Kahr CM9

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Trying to decide on purchasing a Kahr CM9 for EDC. I'm currently a Glock guy and carry a G27, so I'm a little ambivalent about making the jump. Anyone have any experience with the CM9? I'm most worried about reliability issues. Thanks!
 
Never had a problem with mine and it was used when I got it. Used standard and plus p with no problems.
 
You should be concerned about reliability. This is a purchase you should only make if the G27 is genuinely too big to carry as often as you would like to carry it. I've heard of guys on the internet with perfect Kahrs, but I'm yet to see one in real life.
 
Had a CM9 at one time and it was a very good pistol, easy to shoot and accurate. I should also add that it was reliable too. It's a fantastic pocket sized 9mm, and the triggers on Kahrs, while not the same as a Glock, are good triggers (not perfect, but good...they have a long pull, but it's smooth...and there's no short reset on the trigger unfortunately)

I have a CM40 now, and it's much easier to carry than a G27 (which I love btw). The CM40 (like the CM9) is actually pocketable and as strange as it might seem, I get higher velocity numbers from the shorter 3.1" CM40 barrel than I did with the longer ~3.5" G27 barrel, every time with every load.
 
Check out: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=739441

and http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=739023

and http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=738634

You will see discussions right up your alley. I just decided not to buy the Kahrs because of extra long trigger travel and reset. The PM9 variant is less expensive and there are numerous other guns out there less expensive than the Kahr. Many subcompacts have reports of unreliability initially till after a break in period - this applies to the Beretta Nano and Kinmber Solo Carry as well.
 
I've put about 2000 rounds through it so far with no malfunctions. I tried to put enough rounds through it hoping it will malfunction so I can buy an M&P shield but it has been perfect even with the 7 round mag. I use it for CCW everyday IWB.. Very comfy and I sometimes don't even know I have it. When I am in a bad side of town, I do carry my G32 or G19, but they're not as comfy as the CM9.
 
I don't have a CM9 however, I carry a CW9 and I am very pleased with it. The CW has a slightly longer grip. I've put several hundred rounds through it and I've never had any issues with it. It is my EDC and I'm 100% confident in it.
 
CM9 owner here and it's been flawless in function for the two years I've had it. It's my EDC and gets plenty of practice. Long trigger pull isn't a concern as I don't believe that will become a factor in a heated encounter.
 
PM9 and P9 here. No reliability issues. The trigger will be different than what you are used to with the Glock.

I've heard of guys on the internet with perfect Kahrs, but I'm yet to see one in real life.

I've heard of guys on the internet with problematic Kahrs, but I'm yet to see one in real life.
 
I own two, and know two others with one apiece. Mine are CW40 and P380. One guy has the PM9, and the other had the P45.

The guy with the P45 sent it back to Kahr multiple times, and the firing pin issue was never fixed. It wouldn't always fire the round.

The guy with the PM9 has the same problems I've had with my two--jamming. The first round often gets stuck when chambering. This is just plain annoying. I was originally told that with Kahrs, you have to start with the slide back, and then release it with the slide stop lever. This cut down the frequency, but it still happens on occasion. All three jam several times/100 when shooting, also. It's multiple reasons, too... Sometimes it simply will not fully chamber the round. Other times, the empty case gets stuck exiting. This is in addition to the fact that you have to test all different types of ammo to see what works and what doesn't. I have not found any that work flawlessly in either Kahr, while some only give a few problems per 100 rounds. Several jam every stinking time.

I don't necessarily blame Kahr for this issue, and I don't intend on making any sort of blanket statement that Kahrs are not worth it. What I'm saying is that they are inferior to Glocks in reliability; and in my personal experience, by a highly dramatic margin. My comment applies--ONLY buy a Kahr if you find yourself leaving the G27 at home when you would like to carry, but find it to be too big. Kahrs (and perhaps all tiny guns?) are picky little buggers, and a headache in my experience (which includes Kel-Tecs and the Micro Eagle). If you can carry the G27 everywhere you want to carry it, then skip the Kahr.

I'll be trading or selling the Kahr CW40 for whatever I can get, and will be using those funds to buy another Glock. The P380 was a gift that I cannot bring myself to sell or trade.
 
I dont have a high round count through my Kahr cm9 yet to add much in regards to their reliability. I have had it for a little over 6 months and a Glock 26 purchase turned it into a safe queen for now. Im not saying that the G26 is better, but it holds more rounds and is not much bigger.
 
I am a new CM9 owner. Never shot it yet. It was one of the very few compact single stack 9mm pistols with all the features I wanted. No thumb, grip, backstrap, or trigger safety. No mag disconnect. No meddlesome loaded chamber indicator. Traditional style mag release. Nice trigger out of the box. You start adding those features together and the list gets thin. I basically wanted a semi-auto that functions like a revolver except with the advantages of higher capacity and easier reloads. Some guns come close but had features I prefer to avoid, or like the Glock 26 they simply don't feel right in my hand.

The ergonomics fit me great but it is a tight pistol out of the box. Strong springs, very tight slide and mags. I read the mixed reviews before purchase but I was willing to give it a chance and lose some money in a worst case scenario. It has been hand cycled thousands of times without being fired and it has loosened up considerably. The standard cap mag did not drop free at first but does now, but not the extra 8 rd mag. It still needs some use. The mags do seem a bit peculiar.

I hope the gun proves to be reliable but the more I continue to read the less enthusiasm I have.
 
My experience with Kahr In a nutshell:
Pm40 - reliability issues even with factory ammo.
Pm9 - reliability issues even with factory ammo.
Cw40 - reliability issues even with factory ammo, broken magazine release. Going back to Kahr for repair, then its going up for sale.
Over $1k later, I'm a little miffed that I haven't gotten a pistol that I can actually use for ccw. I am pretty ready at this point to make blanket statements about kahr.
 
My CM9 has been 100% reliable with a wide variety of ammo and is currently my go-to carry pistol.

It's certainly more reliable than some Glocks I've encountered.
 
I have TWO CM9s...neither has given any trouble, 100% reliable with anything I've tried in them.
I bought two because I thought I might convert the wife to one- nope her small weak hands can't rack the slide so she stays with the laser'd snubby.

My son now happily carries it as a replacement for his bulkier Glock 26.
 
LOVE my CM9. One FTE in the first 100 rounds i fired. After that 100% reliable. great trigger, great gun. Love my Kahr. Getting a 380 next for when I (for some reason can't conceal my CM9).
 
I own 3 kahrs all in my cc rotation but If you carrya glocks for a larger pistol I would wait of the new g42 as it may feel more like a skinny glock in the grip angle and trigger your all ready use to. I hate swapping designs for carry.
 
My PM9 has been stone reliable with over 2600 reloads through it. I think many people limp-wrist them causing misc jams. Especially those with PM40's; although no one wants to admit to limp-wristing, I believe many people just cant hold on tight enough with these little pocket rockets.
The Kahrs are light and need something firm to recoil against.
 
Yeah. I wonder how a guy with one bad Kahr always has 3 bad Kahrs and a guy with one good Kahr has 3 good Kahrs.
 
Yeah. I wonder how a guy with one bad Kahr always has 3 bad Kahrs and a guy with one good Kahr has 3 good Kahrs.

Because I've learned over time that those folks who consistently complain about firearm malfunctions are also those same people who never properly lubricate and clean their firearms (i.e., they take them out of the box new and think that preservative grease is lubricant), refuse to read owners manuals, refuse to take training courses in firearm operation, use cheap ammo or Bubba's reloads, use cheap 3rd-party mags and accessories, and don't comprehend that all firearms are mechanical devices that require proper usage and maintenance to function as intended.

Since Kahrs are popular pistols, you just happen to hear more negative (and positive) chatter because of sheer volume.

Seriously, I own, and have owned, a wide variety of semi-automatic firearms over the years, and practically all of them have been 99-100% reliable, with many (including my Kahr CM9) remaining 100% reliable through thousands of rounds. This also includes other popular designs that many folks claim are "unreliable" (such as ARs, 1911s, Remington 742/7400 rifles, and 1100/11-87 shotguns), yet they always seem to work fine for me.

I'm pretty sure it's not a coincidence.
 
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