Kahr CW40 a POS?

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I bought a new Kahr CW40 two months ago and it has run pretty good, until today. And it has felt really sweet ... nice trigger. Suddenly, with the same ammo I have run over 150 rounds thru it stopped feeding today. Every round stops against the ramp coming off the magazine. I tried to take it apart and the pin won't come out. I have poked and pried and hammered and nada ... it won't disassemble. I have stripped and re-assembled it five or six times and never had a problem till today.

So I'm reading everything I can find on the web about the CWs and I'm surprised to read others having problems with the CW. ***? A $500 US made firearm is this badly designed and built?

Should I ditch it and go back to a 1911 or a good revolver?
 
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Well ... did a little digging. Found folks in other forums with the exact same problem. Kahr ... you suck. Seriously. I could have gotten my ass killed today in a different situation. You know there is a design problem with the spring, and you haven't updated the documentation or changed the design.

I'm going to let everyone know about it. You can believe that. This isn't a hunting rifle, this is a defensive handgun. You're going to get someone killed. Not me, though. This POS is GONE asap.
 
A little more detail or some reference to the issue would be nice. Also some links to all these other forums where others are having problems would be helpful. I have a CW9 and have never had a single problem with it. It's a great conceal gun and VERY accurate for a compact. I haven't really read to much anywhere about people having problems with the Kahr CW's any more than any other handgun you read about.
Again, little more info would be nice to validate this.
Sorry you're having issues with yours though.
 
And yes ... I'm pissed off. Unlike most of you I could be carried out feet first if my weapon doesn't go bang.

I got 9 different posts about this issue with the spring getting tweaked in only about 15 minutes of looking (check the times on my posts). How many could I find in a half hour? It needs to be fixed in the design. Not by charging customers $60 to send it back.
 
From what I read you probably damaged that spring yourself when putting it back together.
There's just too much overwhelming good reviews about the CW's and a lot of their other guns to say that Kahr's are junk because you bent your spring.
Sorry but send it in and get it fixed. It has a warranty.
 
Nope. Won't fly. I've owned nine autoloaders, from Colts to Rugers, not counting carrying various things temporarily for Uncle Sam. I've field stripped a few in my time. But you don't bet your life on one daily ... so it's easy for you to armchair quarterback me, isn't it? :)

Sorry you're upset that I'm dissing your gun. But it is what it is. You don't get these kinds of (similar) issues if it's designed and built correctly. There's an issue, and Kahr hasn't addressed it.
 
Wow you're really full of yourself. Normally I would say thanks for serving but you seem a little to proud of yourself. I'm definitely not armchair quarterbacking you. Go back and read those threads. Several people fixed it by bending the spring back the way it goes and putting it back in the gun. I looked at mine and I can see exactly what they're talking about and how you could put it in wrong. It explains in the Kahr manual's instructions that you have to watch out for that spring and how you put it in. Seems pretty straightforward to me.

By the way; I've owned a lot more than 9 autoloaders and have also served in the U.S. Army as a paratrooper. As far as using a handgun to save my life every day, if I was in a situation as dire as you make yours out to be, I probably wouldn't be carrying a little Kahr Concealable.

Anyway, this is my last post in here as you are very aggressive, insulting and unpleasant. Whatever happens I hope you do stay safe and if you go read a bit more on those threads you'll see that it's already been posted how you can fix that issue yourself.
Good luck.
 
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Not the spring. Got it apart (finally). Again ... hope your life never depends on your pistol going bang. You'll sing a different tune if you experience what I did today when the chips are down and then someone tries to tell you you don't know how to field strip a weapon.
 
and I'm surprised to read others having problems with the CW.
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Don't be, think of any gun ever made and see if you can find someone on the internet having a problem with it. I bet you could do it.:)

Considering your job...

I could have gotten my ass killed today in a different situation.
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But I am in a situation where I could be seriously kilt if my weapon goes tits up.
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Unlike most of you I could be carried out feet first if my weapon doesn't go bang.
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But you don't bet your life on one daily...
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You'll sing a different tune if you experience what I did today...
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maybe you shouldn't be relying on a company's budget model concealed carry handgun anyway. Just food for thought.
 
Exactly. In a situation like that I'd be carrying a CZ75b or a Glock.

You'll sing a different tune if you experience what I did today when the chips are down and then someone tries to tell you you don't know how to field strip a weapon.
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That doesn't sound like life or death to me. Sounds like you got in trouble for not being able to field strip your weapon... Again it tells you in the manual about that spring in giant letters and with a HUGE picture with ARROWS on page 18. Every thread you linked me was of people having takedown issues because of that spring... For a combat situation maybe something that's meant to be field stripped IN THE FIELD in a bad situation would be better. If I was in a situation that was life and death, I would've already known whether my handgun was going to work or not.

I know I said I was done posting but I might be addicted to responding to stupid stuff...
 
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I'm ready!!
 
I have 23k rounds down range in my PM9 and never one issues, course I also know how to field strip my kahr to. If you put the slide stop lever in wrong with the spring below the stop, YOU WILL HAVE ISSUES. If you put the slide stop in front of the barrel lug instead of through it , ,,it will refuse to allow you to strip it. BOTH OF THESE ARE UR STUPID FAULT FOR DOING SO. blame the gun on ones ignorance is very easy, the gun can't talk back.

Also if one had come on here and asked, that slide stop pin that won't come out could have been taken out with one good hit on the right side of the slide stop pin with a wooden dowel and a hammer.

Bottom line the gun malfunctioned because the owner screwed it up. If one would only read the kahr manual it will tellyou jsut what I said only in nicer words...

"Stupid is as stupid does" Forrest gump..

Bet is that kahr could talk, it probalby would be saying the same thing. "should I ditch this owner and go to someone who knows or what??
 
You got reading comp problems? It isn't the spring issue, as I stated in my last post. We finally got it apart and the parts all look fine. You may have ten thousand rounds thru your Kahr, but the CW series is problem prone. I've been reading about it all over the place tonight.

The other models haven't come in for more than the usual bugs/issues, but the CW is crap design and build. Nobody likes having their fav gun dissed, but the CW is $hite, period. That many issues reported across what is a relatively small community (micro percentage of shooters actually on the net) clearly points to problems.

Glad you like yours tho. Hope you never need it.
 
Thanks for the head's-up. Now cool your jets man... no one here is responsible for this malfunction. Here's the folks to contact:

[email protected]
Mailing Address: 130 Goddard Memorial Dr.
Worcester, MA 01603
Attn: Service Dept.
TEL: 508-795-3919 | FAX: 508-795-7046
 
Philliper.

sorry if my comments seemed alittle strong. u have issues with ur kahr, u seem to want to close them almost down. My advice is to just peddle it and move on, as you will never have confidence in your kahr. Maybe u should have done some research in advance before u bought to. My kahrs are excellent, most all are also. but when it happens to u it is never good. I know, I have beent here with the kt products and the Para products but yet many of those owners swear by those guns., and many swear at them also.
again my comments might have been to strong but never the less you come on here bitching, so u should have known also that you will get comments back that you don't like. Every polymer kahr is built the same way so what is the new found design flaw that is only in the cw series and not in the other polymer series..???
 
Quick, lets shut down glock, their guns suck! Look at all the examples I found in just a couple minutes! Glock's design and build suck!:rolleyes:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=85722
http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=4900

Go back to all the links you posted and count how many people have had no problems with their gun. Do you post a positive experience with every gun you buy or is it just negative? Most people post more about problems than something working as it should. So your small percentage of a small cross-section of gun owners doesn't really tell us much.

What is your job anyway? Maybe if you tell us we can help point you to a better gun for your needs.
 
Phlipper now you're saying it's not a spring but it's a design flaw... You just keep sounding more and more like you have no idea what you're talking about. When I asked originally for some more detail and links about the problem you were having (can't disassemble the gun etc...) you posted links of people that were having problems with that little spring put in wrong. As soon as I told you that was user error you just started ranting about, "It's not the spring!" Ok... If it wasn't the spring what is it? You said you got the gun apart and everything looks fine. I fail to see what the actual problem with the gun is/was. You seem a little all over the place with your description of the issue and clarifying the problem which usually indicates ignorance or lying to cover some portion of the facts up.

I like to read forums for information and I like to help when and where I can. Since I own a CW9 I was interested in this thread. For some reason you just seem to be a little off-balance and it's basically impossible to talk to you here.

At this point I assume you just got mad and wanted to knock the company on a website instead of actually seeking any type of real information that could help you out.


As to what Lions posted, I agree fully. 90% of people that don't usually post reviews only post a review when something is wrong as evidenced by the fact that most of those folks complaining about issues with their Kahrs in those forum links had 10 posts or less. I've had negative experience with popular, normally reliable firearms as well. It's a mechanical piece of a equipment. Things can happen.
 
Unlike most of you I could be carried out feet first if my weapon doesn't go bang.
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In addition to your encyclopedic knowledge of gun design and vast understanding of gunsmithing it seems that you are clairvoyant as well.

It is truly amazing that you know what we do for a living. Even MORE impressive (if that is possible) is that you can see the future and know that we will not need our carry weapons to function. I am going to breath easier from now on...thank you,

So Psychic Phlipper...what am I thinking?
 
Sorry to hear that...

Hey Phlipper ... I am so sorry to hear that your gun is a P.O.S. I live in NJ so I don't have the option to carry but I tried to imagine me needing my gun, pulling the trigger and it jamming up on me ... I gotta tell you ... it scared the HELL out of me!

I can empathize with your frustration! Regardless of whether it's your $500 Kahr or my $1200 Kimber if who ever cannot make a gun that functions consistently and dependably, for whatever price, that manufacturer should be D.O.A.!

I SINCERELY hope everything turns out for the best!!!


Respectfully yours,

NJGunOwner81
 
Unlike most of you I could be carried out feet first if my weapon doesn't go bang.
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Uh, dude, all of us would be carried out in such a way if our weapon didn't go bang. That may be, just may be the reason we carry, just thinking you know.

In answering your question, send back to the mother ship, and be polite on the phone or they will ditch you before you ditch the gun.

Any gun can jam. I don't like it when it happens, but that is what drills are for. If it happens alot, or is bad, that's why you have other guns to fall back on while the gun is repaired.
 
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