Kahr CW40 a POS?

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Phlipper, I think you would have received more support, advice, and sympathy had you shared useful info and requested advice. For example, a description of what is wrong with photos. Somebody here might be able to help you. Bad mouthing a brand and model that generally enjoys a good reputation only makes fellow Kahr owners defensive because the problem flies in the face of reality. In other words, we all recognize that some defective guns are produced. But certainly Kahr does not deserve this kind of abuse over a few defective guns.

Kudos for doing the research, but I see you did it after purchasing the gun, and are now ignoring the many, many "I love my Kahr" posts in favor of the fewer "I hate Kahr" posts. I suspect you did not seek out the bad Kahr posts before buying because you realized the Kahr brand enjoyed a good rep. It still does, even as you contribute your one post about your bad Kahr. I think your time would be better spent fixing the problem, selling the Kahr, and then finding that elusive gun that has never had a negative post or displayed any defect.

Good luck with that.
 
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Lions: no kiddin??glocks give issues???

Gee and I was almost convinced that only KAHRS gave issues. Most guns that I have owned will give issues, if put back together "wrong"

My thoughts on the OP original post. The take down pin was installed in front of the barrel lug instead of in the barrel lug opening. Do this and you will lock that sucker up bigger than hell. then add to it by pulling the trigger and you have incurred a double lock up. the slide then will not move in any direction.

Gee how do I know this?? I did it once. Yes it can be fixed without going back to kahr. My solution was #1 take a wooden down and put it next to the right side take down pin and just hit it hard with a hammer. The slide lock llever will pop out.

#2 next take the back plate off the slide and remove the striker and the slide will release.
#3 if u use ur head #1 and #2 will never have to occur.

#4 BUT it had to be the guns fault by design, certainly could not have been my fault!!!!! ????
 
Unlike most of WHO? You sound just like Feinstein saying that SHE is important enough to need to carry, the rest of us just do it for fun. You try to convince us that you are some kind of (everyone cringe, I'm going to say it,) OPERATOR, because YOUR life hangs on your carry gun on a daily basis, but YOU stopped carrying what worked for you and started carrying a gun you didn't know well.

I'm not at all impressed with your tone. You have carried, shot, been in the military, blah blah blah, but you only did your homework in this Kahr AFTER you bought it and had problems with it. I'm MUCH more inclined to believe that this is a OPERATOR issue rather than a Kahr issue.
 
Phlipper

I can understand your frustration. Although there is always going to be a group of supporters defending their favorite line of firearms (and Kahr seems to have such a following), I can't help but to have noticed what would seem to be a inordinate amount of bad press for the Kahr line of pistols through the years. I do not believe that the bad press is just a small amount of Internet talk. I'll even admit that reading so much bad press has kept me from going for one of the very small Kahr pistols. I don't want a $600 gun that I have to spend another couple hundred breaking in, because I think that even after the break-in period I'd find myself waiting for the next malfunction. I'm glad my G26 doesn't have any "funny" spring that I have to worry about during reassembly. I think a monkey could reassemble the G26. Kahr threads kinda remind me of Taurus threads, if you happen upon a positive one...it's a bit of a surprise (usually from someone happy to have gotten through 50 rounds without a malfunction).
 
Stay away from plastic Kahrs in .40 & .45. If you want one in those calibers, get a metal Kahr. There have been no major problems with any of the metal Kahrs nor the plastic Kahrs in 9mm.
 
maybe you shouldn't be relying on a company's budget model concealed carry handgun anyway. Just food for thought

A big +1 to that


I have always wondered why is it that the people that go on and on never call the Manufacture they just complain to the people that can't change anything.
 
There have been no major problems with any of the metal Kahrs

That's good to know. I'll keep that in mind. I really could be tempted by a "micro" Kahr.
 
personally in the past 2 years the issues of polyjmer kahrs has deminished big time, Today they are IMO as dependable as the metal kahrs and certainly a far better seller than the metal kahrs and the cw series kahrs are their biggest seller by far.

I really don't consider the cw series a budget model in that the quality is basically the same,less dovetailed sites, polygonal rifled barrel extra magazine, forged slide lock lever (which by the way I have never read of their MIM slide stop levers ever going bad. The lower assembly of every polymer kahr and metal kahrs are exactly the same, be it cw series or k series or mk series...

I guess it is called a budget model but IMO not a lesser quality for reliability model at all... reports on 9mm karhs are almost all positive. I have read more reports on 40 cal kahrs issues than any caliber they make. I attribute this to the recoil of the 40 cal in such a liteweight gun and that some just can't handle them properly. A 15 ounce PM9 will give you a kick you never dreamed of.
 
Although there is always going to be a group of supporters defending their favorite line of firearms

I know what you mean but you shouldn't brush off every positive thing you hear about a gun because that person might own one. I don't own a kahr and I don't work for them either. I've looked in to a kahr cw9, my research yielded good results and it would fill a role nicely. I might get one, I might go another direction. I'm hardly a staunch defender of kahr pistols.
 
I know what you mean but you shouldn't brush off every positive thing you hear about a gun because that person might own one. I don't own a kahr and I don't work for them either. I've looked in to a kahr cw9, my research yielded good results and it would fill a role nicely. I might get one, I might go another direction. I'm hardly a staunch defender of kahr pistols.

Point taken, I realize that my comments are not based on firsthand experience, and I don't really want to come off as a Kahr critic. I was just sharing my hesitation at buying one. I appreciate the constructive responses to my comments above. I thought a few might might read them and go on the attack, but I see that those who have responded are more generous than that.
 
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Phlipper are you the leader of a 3 man tactical entry team of one of America's largest retailers?

seriously a kahr for a duty gun?! c'mon man. sounds like you got a lemon my PM9 is excellent
 
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I have the 100% solution, give the gun to me and I will ensure that it is never fired, or seen by you again ;)

Phlipper
Seriously, when you are:
New here
Asking advise
Trashing a gun

all while making general swoopty claims and picking fights with people who are offering advice and ways of fixing your problems, don't act surprised when people disagree with you, personally I am surprised you didn't just get flamed instead of dissected.
 
As a Range Officer I get to see and shoot alot of guns. A guy bought a new CW9. He brought it to the range. Second magazine the extractor assembly flew out the side of the gun! We actually managed to find the parts and put it back together. A couple of other guys have had huge problems with their polymer Kahrs. My very early MK40 has been perfect. I would not touch one of their polymer guns from what I've seen. But YMMV.
 
siglber: what were these "hugh" problems. the new CW9 evidently was not put together right from the factory, if u were able to find the parts and put it back together. Nobody on here has claimed that kahrs can't give issues, some do, alot are also user issues.

I just got back form shooting with my buddy who just bought a 5 year old PM9 that looks new and a 1st generation G17. They both looked new, although the glock by its mere design is probalby 15 years of old but still looked new. Anyway the G17 had 4 lite strikes out of a box of 50 rounds of wwb. Took those 4 rounds and loaded them in the PM9 and bang every time. Now does this mean hugh problems with polymer G17's???I think not, definitely this gun has some issues that will get straightened out possbly with a new striker spring etc, but my point is all guns can give issues. The polymer kahrs out sell the steel kahrs about 10 to 1, so more than likely we will read of more issues with the polymer kahrs simply because of the ratio. There have been some MK40 that had cracked frames down in the mag well section. These were not polymer, Again it just happens. Kahr took care of those who had these issues.

I guess I am kinda of a kahr cheerleader, for I own 3 and none have ever given one issues, My PM9 has more rounds down range than probably any 20 kahrs combined. My K9 has around 4500 rounds and looks new and never one issue. My P380 is chugging along at around 1200 rounds and doing well also.

No doubt, if one feels negative towards a certain gun, STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM IT. who ever makes it. I owned a Para Carry nine and loved it, it just didn't love me, went back 3 times before I could get it right to sel lit in good faith. People swear by para, but some swear at Para. Same thing witl Kt products. .

to date I have never read an issue with steel glocks!!! I wonder why??
 
Wow phlipper, you really sound Elite! Maybe even Elitest! Do you work at the same mall as Gecko45? I hear it a really dangerous place. You could get "seriously kilt" with a job like that.
 
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Well for the record my carry Kahr CW9 has always been flawless.

I think it was user error and seems to be a common, easy to make error. Hopefully he can get it sorted out and sell the gun for something a little easier to handle :/

I do hope that you find something safe and that keeps you safe regardless of the elitist attitude.
 
My wife carries a Kahr CW40 as her main defensive gun everyday. Once a week we'er at the range and by now she's gotta have put at least 6,000rds through it or more. And after shooting we clean our guns. I don't know what other folks are doin' wrong,but we've never had even the slightest problem from our CW40. It has never jamed, never any problems striping it, in fact the gun has done exactly what its supposed to do everytime it was supposed to do it.
I don't think its fair to say that Kahr makes a sh*ty product just because you and maybe 10% of the people who own one are havin' problems. Mine works great, and until it does'nt I will continue to think it is a fine weapon.
 
Phlipper, first of all... You paid $500 for a Kahr CW series? Dude, you got ripped! Shows lack of knowledge starting right there. And, with all your "supposedly claimed" experience, how many pistols have you owned where you MUST put the recoil spring on in the right direction? Other than my Walther PPK/s, my Kahr is the only other one like that and I own MANY makes of semi-autos. Are you lining up the tick marks on the slide (half moon cut out) and the frame? I can easily push the slide stop pin out with index finger pressure on my PM9. Which, oh by the way, I got with the DLC finish and night sights out the door for $525. ;)
 
My P40 had been back twice. Finally worked perfectly for about 200 rds. I cleaned it, put 20 more through it to make sure I assembeled it correctly (I've had a P9 for over five years but better safe than sorry).

I CARRIED THE THING FOR OVER TWO WEEKS.

Next time I go shooting I draw the gun from my holster and fire at my target as fast as posssible. The freaking mag pops out and the slide locks back. It does that every single time now with all three mags I have for it.

Yes, I'm pissed too. I carry my P9 still but the P40 stretched the holster I use for it out and I'm pissed about that too. I just suck it up and carry my fat little 27 now. 11 rds. and it works. My K40 works flawlessly too but to carry a gun that heavy with 7 rds. is idiotic to me so it must be sold.
 
You'll sing a different tune if you experience what I did today when the chips are down and then someone tries to tell you you don't know how to field strip a weapon.

please oh sage one...tell us of this harrowing experience...we await with baded breath.
 
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