keeping gun in truck?

[skywalkrNCSU]

i just got a 98 chevy Z71 extended cab and i had an idea of attaching a holster underneath the back seat in a way that it would not be visible unless looking under the seat but very accessible to the driver if needed. i would rather have this than a safe because it wouldnt take up as much room and it would be quicker to access.

anyone do something like this before? if so could you advise me on a good way to go about this?

 

[LT1coupe]

I forget then name, but there are companies that make underseat storage boxes that are designed to store a gun & what nots under the rear seat & out of sight.

 

[Jaenak]

If you put a pistol in your car you still need a concealed carry permit. If you ever decide to put a rifle rack in your truck, you can do so but in Minnesota at least you still need to put the rifle in a locked case in the rearmost storage compartment of the vehicle inaccessible from the cabin. Basically in Minnesota rifle racks are legal for installation into your vehicle, you're just not allowed to use it. Pistols must be stored in the same manor unless you have a concealed carry permit. You can try it anyways and hope you don't get busted but I wouldn't recommend it. The cops may need your permission for a full car search but they are allowed to search the area in and around the driver's seat without your permission or search warrant if they suspect something's up. Basically, all the babbling aside, tread carefully this is touchy territory you're entering into. However, if you have a concealed carry permit, then you're good, ignore everything I said except for the part about the rifle rack.

 

[Huddog]

iiever thought about it, but how accessible will it be to the driver under the back seat far enough not to be seen from outside the truck? Unless you are talking about stopping getting out and then obtaining the firearm. Of course being a Jeep guy I don't know much about the Z-71.

 

[skywalkrNCSU]

I forgot to mention I have my chl so no worries there

also I have tested it and I can reach pretty far back under the rear seat. it is just a bench seat with very little leg room so it is pretty close.

 

[Javelin]

If you put a pistol in your car you still need a concealed carry permit.

They just passed a law in Texas that you do not need a CHL for a loaded handgun hidden in your vehicle. That was a big win for Texas and all gun owners for that matter. Maybe other states that outlaw it will follow.

 

[jaysouth]

Please check you state statutes, no one here can speak for NC statutes and rules unless they live there.

In your neighboring state, TN, there is no license issued that will allow you to have a loaded long gun in the passenger compartment of a vehicle.

There a handgun carry permit will allow you to carry a loaded pistol openly or concealed, but no long guns.

 

[Kind of Blued]

They just passed a law in Texas that you do not need a CHL for a loaded handgun hidden in your vehicle. That was a big win for Texas and all gun owners for that matter. Maybe other states that outlaw it will follow.

The same is true for Colorado. I also know that the Castle Doctrine has been expanded to include motor vehicles and, if I remember correctly, office buildings/your place of employment? It doesn't sound right now that I say it.

Does anybody know what I am trying to know?

 

[Kind of Blued]

THIS is what I was trying to place when I entered this thread. If you have the space, it seems like it may be a design almost tailer-made for trucks.

http://www.sshmi.com/

It is basically just the metal piece, and you can attach your favorite of any holster/gun combination to it, as long as the holster was designed to be worn on a belt.

 

[PRazz]

I've taken those plastic/kydex galco holsters and drilled 3 holes in a triangular pattern into the back part that sets against your hip. Using small bolts and wide washers to spread out the pressure on the plastic, it can be bolted pretty much anywhere you can think of. It also retains the gun by the way Galcos pinch the trigger guard, some are also adjustable. I have an adjustable retention one mounted underneath my ashtray under the center of the dash. Keeps it held tight and out of sight but I can just grab and pull it out if needed. I think it is safer than to tuck it under my leg while driving or leave it in my holster with the seat belt keeping me from getting to it.

Oh and will there be kids riding back there at all? I've got kids in my backseat so I chose under the dash for MY immediate access, not theirs.

 

[Exmasonite]

I'd be concerned about liability if it ever got stolen.

Are you planning on keeping a gun there permanently or just when you are out and about? What if you go somewhere where you can't carry (post office, etc)? If somebody breaks into your car, grabs your gun and walks down the street to use it to mug/kill somebody, you could be held liable for not properly securing your firearm.

I'd be sure to also have a safe or lock available for securing the gun.

 

[skywalkrNCSU]

thanks MDeViney that is exactly what i was looking for

 

[Brenainn]

I live in NC, too... I always wondered something...
Say I have a CCP and I needed to go into the Post Office or a school for a minute. Obviously, I can't bring in my pistol, which means I have to leave it in the car. So it must be fine to leave the pistol in the car, such as under the seat or something, right? I am guessing that as long as I have the CCP, it's really the only thing to do?

 

[Apachedriver]

Brenainn I live in NC, too... I always wondered something...
Say I have a CCP and I needed to go into the Post Office or a school for a minute. Obviously, I can't bring in my pistol, which means I have to leave it in the car. So it must be fine to leave the pistol in the car, such as under the seat or something, right? I am guessing that as long as I have the CCP, it's really the only thing to do?

Think about what you just wrote for a minute. (minute passes by)

Yes, it's fine to leave the pistol in the car but do you think:
a. ...it's really and properly secured from getting stolen from your car if it's just under the seat or in the glovebox?
b. ...that you are relieved of all responsibility for it if it's stolen while you are away from it?
c. ...that you could deal with life knowing some lowlife is out there with your firearm do who knows what to whom?
d. ...that you would want to have as much control over your weapon at all times as you want to have over your day to day safety?

My answers for myself are no, no, no, and yes.

There are several means available to secure it in your car. Some are lower priced and easy. I've seen some lock box types with a cable tieing it to your seat frame. Some are more expensive such as more permanently mounted safes or lock boxes in various positions in your vehicle.

Hope you find a good answer that works for you.

 

[Apachedriver]

I like that vehicle holster rig up above. That would be great in many ways for traveling cross-country with easy access for going thru urban areas and pulling up to late night gas stops.
I'm gonna have to look into getting one. I have just the spot for it.

 

[1911NM]

New Mexico considers your vehicle private property as much as your house, so anyone, who can legally own a gun, can carry in a vehicle. Now if we can just get the Castle Doctrine through the legislature. Check your state laws, and good luck.

 

[Fred Fuller]

IMHO it's a bad idea to leave a firearm unsecured in any vehicle that is left unattended. There are some places (on campus for instance, or on a military installation) in NC that you can't legally have a firearm in your vehicle at all, no matter how it's secured. The idea of a handgun as an all-the-time 'truck gun' is a bad one for those reasons.

If you just need an accessory holster to secure your legally carried sidearm in an accessible place while driving in 'permissive environments,' that's a different matter...

lpl/nc

 

[Mazeman]

In NH, you can keep a loaded handgun in your car as long as it's visible. If you hide it, you need a CHL (very easy to get).

 

[mattw]

As long as you are 18 years old in Mississippi and are able to legally purchase a firearm, there are no laws that prohibit carrying a loaded firearm (concealed or otherwise) in your vehicle. I've stuck a pistol under the seat of my vehicle and left it there for several weeks, but then again due to the nature of my job I'm never more than 50 feet away from the vehicle at any time.

 

[skywalkrNCSU]

IMHO it's a bad idea to leave a firearm unsecured in any vehicle that is left unattended. There are some places (on campus for instance, or on a military installation) in NC that you can't legally have a firearm in your vehicle at all, no matter how it's secured. The idea of a handgun as an all-the-time 'truck gun' is a bad one for those reasons.

If you just need an accessory holster to secure your legally carried sidearm in an accessible place while driving in 'permissive environments,' that's a different matter...

lpl/nc

i agree 100% but if i have to leave it...

ie i end up going somewhere i cant legally carry that i hadnt planned on going to but i have my gun on me i have to do something with it. in my eyes this would be a better option than leaving it under the front seat or in the console seeing as a typical thief would normally check there first. right now that is my only option and i dont really feel to great about that. i dont really have the money to get a safe and mount it in my truck like i would like so i need another option.

 

[Apachedriver]

skywalkrNCSU,

PM Sent.

 

[Fred Fuller]

i dont really have the money to get a safe and mount it in my truck like i would like so i need another option.
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The website lists the price of the holster mount at $54 (price may vary if you shop around, I didn't).

A Secure-It key-locking steel handgun safe, TSA approved, that locks with a steel cable around a seat stanchion, steering column etc. can be had for $32 (price may vary if you shop around, I didn't, I remembered seeing it in a current catalog). No installation needed, just put the cable around something solid and lock it up.

'Scuse me for being blunt, but... if you can't afford a safe- can you afford to get another handgun if your unsecured specimen gets ripped off? More importantly, can you live with having your unsecured stolen firearm used to victimize innocent people?

North Carolina has a secure storage law for firearms in the home. IANAL, but IMHO reason extends to using a similar level of precaution for a firearm stored in your vehicle. Stolen firearms are not to be taken lightly, they start out "in the wrong hands" and things can only go downhill from there.

Links below FWIW...

DTRT,

lpl/nc

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http://www.sshmi.com/store.html

Sure Set Universal Holster Mount
Code:UHM-001
Price: $54.99
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http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=282585

WX2-105432 Secure-It® Handgun Storage Safe
$32.97
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-And from the same page:

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=180413

WX2-89563 Electronic Pistol Vault
$59.97

 

[skywalkrNCSU]

well touche sir and thanks for the links...seems like that would be a much more viable option

 

[roo_ster]

What's the Fuss?

I really don't get all the fuss over leaving a firearm in your auto*.

It is a tool. If it gets stolen, the fault lies with the thief...just as if the thief had stolen your power drill or your hammer from your auto. Use the same sort of common sense when leaving other valuables in your auto (out of sight, lock the doors, etc.).

I have had many other tools or objects in my auto for periods of time and neither felt the need nor received stern counsel to buy some specialized securing device.

Report the auto break-in to police & insurance, the theft of any objects to include the firearm, and get on with your life.


* Given that it is legal to do so in whatever location you happen to be at that moment or there is not some special circumstance (small kiddos all over the auto, etc.)

 

[Apachedriver]

:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:


Translation: WHAT!?!?! Are you sh*tt**g me?!?! Holy Cows!?!? That kind of thinking may be ok when you live in the boonies, but, especially in urban areas, that's naive, ignorant, or plain irresponsible for a gun owner.

If it gets stolen, the fault lies with the thief

Do you leave your windows open when you're sleeping? Or the doors unlocked when your wife, SO, or family is at home alone? After all, the fault lies with the intruder if anything gets stolen, or they're raped and/or murdered.

There's a big difference between a hammer and a firearm. Kinda like the difference a stripper and one's wife...one's cheap, replaceable, and there's thousands to be had, and the other invaluable, one of a kind, and carries a lot of responsibility with it.

I wish the world was that simple and basic but's it isn't, and to think otherwise(tempered of course for your area) is to invite bad things into your life.

WOW.