Kel Tec P32 - Would You Trust Your Life To It?

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it is better then a sharp rock tied to a stick.


i have shot and carried a keltec 32 a lot , no issues at all, i have also carried a 22, something is better then nothing

FYI an off duty LEO killed a guy last year with a NAA 22. TOOK THE GUY A WEEK TO DIE BUT THE 22 STOPPED THE ADVANCEMENT
 
If you are just a few feet away when armed attack against you starts and you manage to score a hit against attacker just before he (being sexist) pulls trigger will that hit carry enough umph to stop the action, or are you now shot too? About to be stabbed by knife, will your 32 prevent the stab or will your follow up shots come after you have sustained a serious wound?

Like I said before, 32 will kill someone, but that's not the goal of SD shooting. You would like to stop their aggressive action from hurting you. With less than 100# KE they may or may not show a reaction to being solidly hit.

I still don't believe that attacks are stopped by KE numbers or what they represent. I believe that, in greater than 99 percent of cases, they are stopped by one of two other things: disability/incapacitation, such as a shot (or multiple shots) that makes it physically impossible for the attacker to continue, or the decision on the part of the attacker to abort. Cases of the latter are far more common, and in the majority of those cases, no shot is even required. Cases of the former require head or CNS shots almost exclusively, which can be as tricky for a .380ACP as for the lowly .32.
We're all taking a gamble, no matter what caliber sidearm we're carrying. Our first gamble is that we'll never even need them.
For my P-32 to fail me in a defensive role, all of the following failures in my self-protection plan would have to occur first: 1) A threat presents itself to me and I am unable to detect it in time to avoid it, and 2) I am unable to evade it, to remove myself from the situation in time to head off a confrontation, and 3) this takes place on one of the very few days I am actually carrying the P-32 over my PF-9 as my primary means of defense (beyond the mental skills in place already), and 4) I am unable to present my means of self-defense in a manner timely enough to convince the suspect I am a serious threat to him if he does not cease and desist, or he does not recognize the threat I present, and 5) I am unable to deploy and fire my weapon in the event the previous four failures have occurred, and 6) the attacker continues to fail to recognize the threat I present to him as being more significant than anything he could gain by continuing his attack against me despite being shot or shot at, and 7) all shots available to me, as well as any other means available to me to continue my counter-attack, remain insufficient, and 8) I remain unable to otherwise extricate myself from the situation.
That's a long chain of failures that must go unbroken for a defender to come out as the "loser" in a criminal attack. Yes, it does indeed happen, but that's not what we're dissecting here. What we're dissecting here is the .32 against the .380 in self-defense, since that's where the thread was headed. Given my lifestyle and protection plan, of which I alone am the expert here, I'm confident that I am not going to be injured or killed because I was carrying a P-32 instead of a P3-AT. If I ever am injured or killed while carrying only the P-32, it will be due to circumstances in which my PF-9 would have also been insufficient (as would likely any handgun I can carry about me.)
 
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What we're dissecting here is the .32 against the .380 in self-defense, since that's where the thread was headed.

Actually the OP asked us NOT to turn it into a 32 vs 380 thread. He was asking specifically if you would trust your life to a Keltec P32.
 
Actually the OP asked us NOT to turn it into a 32 vs 380 thread. He was asking specifically if you would trust your life to a Keltec P32.

Yes, jon; I noticed that. I wasn't the one who diverted the thread; I was simply trying to get it back by re-iterating why I trust mine.
 
No would not. First one I bought when they first came out was a POS after multiple returns to factory. What a joke. Bought another one last year on a group buy. 500 flawless rounds later> Love the little bugger but would not trust my life to it and never let my wife trust one. It is my last chance when all else fails and the pocket knife gets knocked out of my hands I will reach for the Keltec and pray like hell it will work this one more time.
 
If you would prefer your pocket knife to the weapon you carry, then why in God's name would you carry it at all? That whole rationale make no sense.
 
if you have issues with the keltec try different ammo until you get zero stoppages. Also test the ammo you carry. If you continue having any failures send it in and they will not rest until your system is 100% functional.
cannot compare with a glock but rest assure those folks down in florida will send you a good working pistol. 99.9% of the folks I talk to that have keltec products are very happy with their product and in fact they had an issue (normal with new product) then speak wonders about them.
I carry glock all year but ocasionally I carry a keltec PF9 in the summer due to small footprint and I have no problem with it.
It spits fire non stop. Cannot compare with the glock but, keltec no problem.
If someone has a problem they should report the manufacturer that gladly will help and also learn from the issue as they are a relatively new company that is making a good name for themselves and they should not be trashed due to a problem as I see otherwise they are a good bunch or hardworking americans.
I don't have any interests in them, I just speak in good faith.
Go keltek! keep bringing innovation and do not give up.
Proudly made in the USA.

Any caliber is good for defense with good placement. If it feels good shooting keep shooting and put 2 centermass and 1 in the head all the time or viceversa. Keep training and after 200,000 rounds you should be all set.
 
Part of me keeps mulling over the question, if I KNEW I was going into a life or death situation is the P32 one of the pistols I would grab? I guess the answer is no so maybe I wouldn't trust my life to it.
 
I agree. The best way to get that question out of your head is head to the range with 400 rounds and shoot them all w/o one single stoppage just like the glock. I do that with anything I carry. I test over and over again the magazines and the ammo I carry. That way I know. That's the only way I can trust even with the glocks I carry all the time.
Nothing that someone can tell me in person or a forum is going to make me feel comfortable until I do not do this.
Cheers.
 
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It doesn't make sense no matter what speed you say it.

Perhaps I can be of assistance. I think he meant that he believes the 32ACP will bounce off his attacker whereas he has a better chance going hand-to-hand with a knife against his assailant.

BTW, it takes a real man to have that kind of philosophy. ;)
 
I would.
Caliber is no excuse for poor shot placement.
Take that lightly :neener:
 
I think he might be better suited to carry a second and third knife, maybe some brass knuckles too. Why bother with a pesky, ineffectual firearm? ;)
 
Some people swear by Keltek which has always puzzled me as though their one gun working reliably is an indication that all will do the same consistently given the number of reported issues out there. I think many were impressed by Kelteks innovation, rightfully so, but have become too defensive of the company because of this. I have a baretta tomact in .32 has never once jammed. A piece inside that i hvae no idea the name for broke but it kept on running regardless. I still need to send it in for repair. Of course even then i wont carry it because it was purchased before i knew much about ballistics, hint, hint. I guess if for some reason my LCP was unavailable the baretta tomcat may take it's place as a BU or gym shorts gun.
 
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Some people swear by Keltek which has always puzzled me as though their one gun working reliably is an indication that all will do the same consistently given the number of reported issues out there. I think many were impressed by Kelteks innovation, rightfully so, but have become too defensive of the company because of this. I have a baretta tomact in .32 has never once jammed. A piece inside that i hvae no idea the name for broke but it kept on running regardless. I still need to send it in for repair. Of course even then i wont carry it because it was purchased before i knew much about ballistics, hint, hint. I guess if for some reason my LCP was unavailable the baretta tomcat may take it's place as a BU or gym shorts gun.

Does FOUR count???

I know that Kel Tec pistols are not Sigs or Glocks, but all of their 2nd generation versions have worked well for me. I would trust a P-32 to function but I would definitely prefer to carry a larger caliber if given the option. If limited to a 32ACP and 7+1 round, I would pick the P32.
 
"Does FOUR count???"

I don't know but the one keltek i bought does. Some ammo it would feed well but thee was too much that it wouldn't. A 9 mm gun should feed 9 mm; not some 9 mm. Thats why i traded it away and got a Ruger.
 
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I don't know but the one keltek i bought does. Some ammo it would feed well but thee was too much that it wouldn't. A 9 mm gun should feed 9 mm; not some 9 mm. Thats why i traded it away and got a Ruger.

Yeah, that I would have to concede. KT's are not garbage eaters like my 59's. My P32s have never been 100% reliable with ALL JHPs. My P11s also functions best with full-power loads.
 
If someone carries a pistol as a 2nd option for a knife might be wise to save one bullet in case you have to put an end to your own misery when you are bleeding to death on the ground.

If a pistol shoots w/o any stoppages for 2K rounds there is a reasonable expectation that will get to the 2020 rounds w/o stoppages.
 
i have had many keltec's from 32-9mm.
not all at one time , all worked fine for me no issues, fact ammo and reloads

i now have a lcp again no issues.
had a lc9 didn't like it

32 ,380, 22, 9, any would be better to have and not need , then not have and need it
 
"32 ,380, 22, 9, any would be better to have and not need , then not have and need it "

Yes but to have a 9 and need would be better than to have a 32 and need.
 
Yes but to have a 9 and need would be better than to have a 32 and need.

YES IT WOULD

this is why i carry either a = xd45acp, xdsc40 , or a xdsc9

when all else fails i carry the pocket lcp in a wallet holster

FYI wallet holster is the way to fly, sometime i forget i have it on me, shoot through and NOT AN AOW ITEM

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Chevelle,
Nice little accessory there? where can I find one?

The Keltec PF9 relentlessly refuses to malfunction so it has earn a sit with the big boys at the front of the gun safe...

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Interesting that several have mentioned the PF9. I have one, but it failed miserably on me. The slide locked so badly that the local gun shop owner didn't even know what to do. We sent it back to Kel Tec, and they did a number on it, but honestly, it still sits in my safe. It's hard to trust a firearm that has already failed on you.

I should also mention that I've had a few rimlocks with the P32.

My Glock 19 has never had a single fail to fire, fail to eject, or fail to bang. I swear I've only cleaned that thing twice in 500 rounds. And my S&W 642 is obviously flawless. I guess that's my standard.
 
I am sorry to hear you had problems with the keltec. I am surprised Keltec did a number on the PF9 but most of the people that in fact had an issue they report it was resolved in the nicest way. If they didn't resolve it the first time they should take it back again right away and might even send you a new one. Did you talk to them?
I agree with you when something fails on you that stays in the back of your mind. I have to confess when I got the PF9, and since I am a glock guy, I was very skeptic but I have had a good experience with mine like many other folks report all over. Even tried to make it fail on purpose and could not do it. It refuses to malfunction. Is there a chance they have debugged any issues in later models? Did you try different ammo? did you contact them to send the gun again?
I see the design and it looks that very few things can go wrong with them but obviously they do for some so I am interested to learn what folks know about the route causes. Not that I am worry about this system too much, it is just curiosity for hobby purposes like many who post here.
 
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