Kel-tec PF9
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Joe Demko
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How can I tell? It's brand new and recent production.
Somewhere on the KTOG forum, there is a very good picture of the new vs. the old barrels side-by-side. For one thing, the newer barrels have a slightly longer (different) feedramp. If you post a pic of yours, I can tell you which it is.
Babalouie
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Keltec sells the mags for about $22. I really like my PF-9 too. Thin and flat...just like I wish I was
Make sure you check out KTOG.org its a great site.
Make sure you check out KTOG.org its a great site.Babalouie
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If its Hard Chromed it is latest production. For all the details you could want regarding the PF-9 visit KTOG.org its amazing the amount of info they have compiled. I think one of the guys is a Keltec employee.
Joe Demko
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Went to the KTOG board. The barrel is one of the new design.
Joe Demko
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Okay, after further research, I somewhat regret the purchase. I really didn't want a project gun. That's what this is going to be, though. The metal magazine release and magazine followers offered at KTOG are, essentially, must-have items. So, there's another $96 expenditure. Plus, I get to have the fun n' games of installing the magazine release. My time is worth something.
If Keltec had done this right and used the metal parts from the factory, I'd be happy. The gun not liking 147 grain bullets is trivial.
If Keltec had done this right and used the metal parts from the factory, I'd be happy. The gun not liking 147 grain bullets is trivial.
oscarswanson
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Mine loves Gold Dots.
The only thing I don't like is how loose the fit between the slide and frame is.
It actually rattles when shook.
The only thing I don't like is how loose the fit between the slide and frame is.
It actually rattles when shook.
marshall3
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I will be picking up my new HC'd PF-9 tomorrow. The price is $270 plus tax. I typically perform a "fluff and buff" on all of my newly purchased semi-auto handguns and I will not make an exception here.
I am anxious to try some of 147 grain Winchester Rangers (non +P) in the PF-9. If all goes well, that's what I'll probably use. FWIW, my Kahr PM9 performs 100% with it. If not, my next selection will be the lighter CorBon DPX ammo.
I don't really mind the cardboard box that is supplied with the gun, however I do wish Kel-Tec saw fit to include a 2nd magazine.
I am anxious to try some of 147 grain Winchester Rangers (non +P) in the PF-9. If all goes well, that's what I'll probably use. FWIW, my Kahr PM9 performs 100% with it. If not, my next selection will be the lighter CorBon DPX ammo.
I don't really mind the cardboard box that is supplied with the gun, however I do wish Kel-Tec saw fit to include a 2nd magazine.
ak-kev
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All my Keltecs have been perfect! I like carring them so I can keep the Colts safe in the gun safe. Anyway, Ive never had a problem with mine, they function great. I do however perform the fluff and buff on most autos I buy just to ensure reliability. They are not range guns, but shoot like crazy!!
Anyway, Ive never had a problem with mine, they function great. I do however perform the fluff and buff on most autos I buy just to ensure reliability. They are not range guns, but shoot like crazy!!
tinygnat219
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How's the recoil on one of these?
I didn't think it was bad at all.
During its first range session (break-in) yesterday, I fired 100 rounds of Winchester "white box" in ½ hour without any unusual discomfort. If I'm not mistaken, my P3AT (.380 ACP) recoil feels a bit more harsh, but it's been awhile since I fired it.
tinygnat219
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Sweet!
Thanks, I might have to look into one of these more seriously.
Thanks, I might have to look into one of these more seriously.
KelTecian
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I love mine...I have a blued one that has been 300+_ rds 100% reliable...I have also sanded and polished the feed ramp and it is slippery as hell.
I fluffed and buffed mmine after testing it with 300 rds. I am anxious to shot her again soon, although my hand is not so anxious lol
I fluffed and buffed mmine after testing it with 300 rds. I am anxious to shot her again soon, although my hand is not so anxious lol
ABBOBERG
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I have had my PF9 two weeks now. After shooting a mix of ammo (50 rounds total) the rails are wearing out - the aluminum is exposed and wearing rapidly.
As a result, the barrel slop in front has increased quite a bit. I can't say that this has affected accuracy, since I have not been able to get very many rounds on an 8" target at 15 yards anyway. For me it is definitely for up close and personal encounters. This is not an industrial-duty gun. My guess is that it is not meant as a back-up gun for cops; but probably will work well for the consumer on a budget that will not shoot more than 1000 rounds through it.
Due to the short barrel, you are losing 60 foot-pounds of energy compared to a full-sized Sig P226, when averaging 43 styles of 9mm ammunition.
The trigger pull is wayyyyy to long for me, although it is a very consistent pull the whole way. Right now the pull is still gritty, but that may work itself out before I wear the gun out.
Yes, the recoil is harsh, but I like harsh recoil; that is why I love shooting my .454.
I think that Kel-Tec has come out with a very low budget, low round count decent gun for the money. But don't expect it to hold up like the more heavy-duty guns.
As a result, the barrel slop in front has increased quite a bit. I can't say that this has affected accuracy, since I have not been able to get very many rounds on an 8" target at 15 yards anyway. For me it is definitely for up close and personal encounters. This is not an industrial-duty gun. My guess is that it is not meant as a back-up gun for cops; but probably will work well for the consumer on a budget that will not shoot more than 1000 rounds through it.
Due to the short barrel, you are losing 60 foot-pounds of energy compared to a full-sized Sig P226, when averaging 43 styles of 9mm ammunition.
The trigger pull is wayyyyy to long for me, although it is a very consistent pull the whole way. Right now the pull is still gritty, but that may work itself out before I wear the gun out.
Yes, the recoil is harsh, but I like harsh recoil; that is why I love shooting my .454.
I think that Kel-Tec has come out with a very low budget, low round count decent gun for the money. But don't expect it to hold up like the more heavy-duty guns.
ak-kev
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You are exactly right! They are not range guns. I dont know how many rounds I have through my 3, but its alot. The great thing is.....if you ever wear it out (doubtful), keltec will send you ANOTHER one with your serial number on it for free!!! There are reports over at KTOG of this phenom. Their warranty is simply incredible!!
There are reports over at KTOG of this phenom. Their warranty is simply incredible!!tedburns
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Why aren't any Kel-Tec's in California?
I searched the website under the Kel-Tec name only.
Under that name, they are not listed in the AG approved 'Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale' in California
Without speculating, does anyone know why?
I searched the website under the Kel-Tec name only.
Under that name, they are not listed in the AG approved 'Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale' in California
Without speculating, does anyone know why?
alamo
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Because their pistols do not have a manual safety and the company is not interested in modifying them to comply with CA regulations.
romma
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Yea, but if my life is in danger, and I point it a a BG and have to use it, It will work!
It isn't a range gun, I did not get one for that reason!
I got one of these recently as well. Round count is low right now, but I've determined it works just fine with ball ammo, and I've settled on Hydrashoks for a carry load for now.
It's a $300ish (give or take $40) gun in a major service caliber (as in better than .380) that is a true pocket gun. Its only competition are much more expensive products that really don't do anything to suit my needs better than the Keltec (of course your needs may be different). It's way smaller than the G26 sized guns, which is something I was looking for. Keltec found a really sweet market niche here that no one else was really addressing.
This would be a great piece for a LEO who was issued a 9mm service weapon as well.
I have heard that even the new barrel/chamber still has trouble with 147 grain loads, but that's really quite all right imho. This is not a service pistol, it's a pocket piece.
It's not fun to shoot, but it works well enough and the sights are very usable. Focus your eye on the front sight and you'll get it in the black. You could ace the Texas CCW shooting qual with it. I agree that tritium sights would have been a better way to go, but maybe the aftermarket will take care of that eventually.
I don't recommend it for your only pistol or for new shooters myself.
It's a $300ish (give or take $40) gun in a major service caliber (as in better than .380) that is a true pocket gun. Its only competition are much more expensive products that really don't do anything to suit my needs better than the Keltec (of course your needs may be different). It's way smaller than the G26 sized guns, which is something I was looking for. Keltec found a really sweet market niche here that no one else was really addressing.
This would be a great piece for a LEO who was issued a 9mm service weapon as well.
I have heard that even the new barrel/chamber still has trouble with 147 grain loads, but that's really quite all right imho. This is not a service pistol, it's a pocket piece.
It's not fun to shoot, but it works well enough and the sights are very usable. Focus your eye on the front sight and you'll get it in the black. You could ace the Texas CCW shooting qual with it. I agree that tritium sights would have been a better way to go, but maybe the aftermarket will take care of that eventually.
I don't recommend it for your only pistol or for new shooters myself.
gwillis6
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Because you live in the Peoples Republic of California
denfoote
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Mine had a strange malfunction.
Last week, I took it to the range.
All I got were failure to ejects!!
I took it home and posted the problem on KTOG.
One suggested I was limp wristing, I was not.
He also suggested some other diagnostics.
I really was not interested in messing with it.
So, I cleaned it really good, especially under the extractor, lubed it and threw it disgustedly into the safe!!!
Today, I took it back to the range and to my surprise, it worked!!
100 rounds, 100 gobangs, and 100 shots of spent brass!!
I still don't know what happened!!
The only thing I can think of was that there was something under the extractor that my super cleaning dislodged!!
Last week, I took it to the range.
All I got were failure to ejects!!
I took it home and posted the problem on KTOG.
One suggested I was limp wristing, I was not.
He also suggested some other diagnostics.
I really was not interested in messing with it.
So, I cleaned it really good, especially under the extractor, lubed it and threw it disgustedly into the safe!!!
Today, I took it back to the range and to my surprise, it worked!!
100 rounds, 100 gobangs, and 100 shots of spent brass!!
I still don't know what happened!!
The only thing I can think of was that there was something under the extractor that my super cleaning dislodged!!
RX-178
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Haven't had any problems with my PF-9. I can't say I /like/ the feel, but I can say I like it compared to the other similar-sized weapons I tried.
I liked the feel of this .357 magnum snubbie I handled before settling on the PF9 , and it would have a lot of stopping power, but you can't carry extra mags with different kinds of ammunition for different situations with a revolver, and that's just something I do when I carry (one mag of 'indoor' ammo, one mag of 'outdoor' ammo).
I /DIDN'T/ get the chance to handle a Kahr, however. The gun shop I went to did not stock them (in hindsight, I know I should've went to the other gun shops too to handle other options). And I figured the PF-9 was comfortable enough, I like the trigger, and it had an accessory rail (if anyone knows a help group, like 'rail-addicts anonymous', I'd like to speak with you about it...
).
I may still purchase a Kahr to replace the PF-9 as a carry gun for warmer seasons, since I'm always in the market for improvement in my weapons selection, but with how the PF-9 performs, it's not going to be high on my priority list in any case.
I liked the feel of this .357 magnum snubbie I handled before settling on the PF9 , and it would have a lot of stopping power, but you can't carry extra mags with different kinds of ammunition for different situations with a revolver, and that's just something I do when I carry (one mag of 'indoor' ammo, one mag of 'outdoor' ammo).
I /DIDN'T/ get the chance to handle a Kahr, however. The gun shop I went to did not stock them (in hindsight, I know I should've went to the other gun shops too to handle other options). And I figured the PF-9 was comfortable enough, I like the trigger, and it had an accessory rail (if anyone knows a help group, like 'rail-addicts anonymous', I'd like to speak with you about it...
).I may still purchase a Kahr to replace the PF-9 as a carry gun for warmer seasons, since I'm always in the market for improvement in my weapons selection, but with how the PF-9 performs, it's not going to be high on my priority list in any case.
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