Kel Tec Sub 2000 9MM-Anyone have experience with these?

[anewconvert]

Got one about a week ago. $400 out the door including a 33rd glock mag. If I didn't have a $100 gift card I may have passed, but its a fun little gun to shoot.

Next for me will be either the pmr 30 or plr 16. Keltec quality may not be the greatest but they are onnovative, US based and inexpensive so I chose to support them

BC

 

[unit91]

I have to agree with rangerruck here. I have one and it's fun enough, but the ergonomics aren't great. It's a nice middle ground between a pistol and an AR, but it isn't the most comfortable thing in the world.

 

[gpr]

i have a smith version that is five years old...i went the smith route to share mags with p11....that didn't work, p11 was picky....after a breakin of 200 rounds, it works with every mag i tried, including 32 round national ones...gpr

 

[X-Rap]

Kel tec is the Lee Loader of the gun world. I have 2 40's one of my sons has a 9 and I just got a 40 for my dad. All are Glock fed. We also have a few 380's and 9mm's.
They are certainly not works of art but function well and the cost has been well under $300 for the sub 2000 and under $250 for the pistols.

 

[kybandit]

I traded for the Sub2K 9 mm that uses Glock mags...fun to shoot, accurate, no probs after about 300 rounds. Just as the owner's manual says, it does NOT particularly like aluminum cased ammo; other than that, eats whatever I feed it. Recommended.

 

[wnycollector]

I have two products on my sub2k that go a long way in upgrading the ergos for less than $25. The cheek weld on the sub2k SUCKS (bare metal to cheek!). It is especially annoying if you live in a cold climate. The tacticool bolt tube http://www.tacticoolproducts.com/sub-2000bolttubecover/ is great at reducing the vibration on your face produced by the bolt! A hogue Hand-all does wonders at reducing the flex and separation of the grip frame.

 

[Shadan7]

wnycollector - thanks for the product link!

Jim D.

 

[JShirley]

Wish they made one in 7.62x25mm.

That would be too perfect.

 

[lions]

Wish they made one in 7.62x25mm.

That would be too perfect.

I actually sent them an email about that a while back. I received a polite, yet dismissive reply. I'm not holding my breath.

 

[w103tws]

I have one, and it is being sold at this moment. I've never had a problem with it. The accuracy is very good. I've shot bowling pins at 100yd off of a bench. It's just I'd rather have my G34 on my side for short range, and my M4 on my back for a little bit longer range.

I can hit bowling pins at 50yd freehand with my G34, so in my eyes, my pistol can do what the sub2k can (for practical purposes), and I can put it in a holster. they are very fun to shoot, but for a carbine, I'd rather shoot and rely on my ar. Just my opinion.

 

[renegade1alpha]

I have one in 9mm that uses Glock magazines and its an awesome little rifle. Its accurate and it folds up nicely. I bought mine NIB for $319 here in Boise, Idaho.

 

[joe6604]

I know it's been a while since this thread was active, but I'm hoping someone can answer my question...is anyone having difficulty with the Kel Tec Sub 2000 getting a good cheek weld while comfortably sighting the weapon?

It's a fun gun, but really awkward.

 

[onebigelf]

Mine has the Glock 19 frame to match my carry pistol. I've added the Houge grip sleeve, the tube cover and the buffer. I also added an AK rail to the right side of the forend, shimmed parallel to the barrel and turned backward to take a QD mount from the front side so that it goes on without the rear sight getting in the way. I put a T1 clone on the rail. The gun at this point is like playing a video game. Point and shoot, hit what you're aiming at.

John

 

[Tainta_Claus]

I purchased my sub 2000 about a month ago, set up for G17 mags. I have taken it out a few times already and I do to some degree have an issue getting a good cheek weld. I tend to adjust about every 4th or 5th round, and I think that is due to the snappy recoil. I was really surprised by the recoil from the sub 2000, expected it to be a little more tame. All in all I have been pleased with it.

 

[sonick808]

I have one in .40S&W / Glock22 mag configuration, and it may well be my favorite firearm. Even next to my older and more beautiful guns, the sub2000 is just COOL. It folds, fits in a small side-carry work bag or laptop bag with plenty of room for magazines and accessories. Bring along a Glock 22 and you have a formidable system. You could try calling Pistol Parlour in Mesa, AZ and see if they have any, I've bought two there so far in the last year. When you do find one, you will love it.

The recoil IS surprising though, no doubt about it. I did NOT expect a .40S&W cartridge to hurt my arm, but it does. It's not like a big hammer, it's like a repeated smack with a small brass hammer right on the bone. Smarts! a solid cheek weld tends to put your eye past the sight, so a light cheek weld is likely, at least in my case. You don't really need a heavy cheek weld though, the weapon is so light and well balanced, it can be steadied perfectly without a solid cheek weld. I don't want to be too close to the bolt handle anyway.

If you built up the tube with neoprene or something (leaving room for the bolt), you could probably get a good cheek weld. Much like you would build up the comb on a rifle that needed it. Again, not necessary since it's so easy to handle

 

[joe6604]

Thanks to Tainta Claus and sonick808 for the suggestions. When wearing eye and ear protection I just can't get down close enough to get a good sight picture. Any suggestions for extending the stock? (Already have the small extension that Kel Tec sells.)

 

[Marlin 45 carbine]

a nephew has the model that fits S&W mags to match his 915. the manual states - 'performance ammunition recommended'. I loaded some +P 124gr Rem GS over Power Pistol and those slugs come out of the muzzle with a 'crack'. tightened his groups up off sandbags from the bench to quarter size @ 50 yds too.
he bought his after I let him shoot my Marlin Camp 9mm - had to have his own 9mm carbine. it's one of the best (IMO) in and around the house/yard defense weapons he has 20rd mec-gar mags for it.

 

[merlinfire]

Pros: Accurate. Reliable. Fun. Inexpensive. Widely available magazines low to high capacity. Highly portable and eminently concealable for a carbine. Pistol caliber means relatively low recoil and highly controllable.

Cons: A pistol caliber carbine is not as effective as a carbine firing a rifle round.

Overall I'd call this a BUY. I sold mine but only because i needed the money for an AK. A sub2k might be in my future again at some point.

 

[effengee]

I hated my Sub2000

The sights were junk, the thing was uncomfortable to shoot, it jammed every few rounds until I took the Dremel to the feed chute, it was easy to get junk in the chamber mechanisms, I HATE 9mm... etc. etc. etc.

On the plus side, it looked really cool and fit neatly into a standard briefcase lined with foam and cutout for the rifle, magazine, and two boxes of ammo.

It also got traded for my Romanian AK and I can't entirely hate the sub-2000 for that reason...

 

[JohnBiltz]

If you built up the tube with neoprene or something (leaving room for the bolt), you could probably get a good cheek weld. Much like you would build up the comb on a rifle that needed it. Again, not necessary since it's so easy to handle

Tacticool makes a sleeve that goes over the bolt tube for $13.50 and I highly recommend it for comfort. Looks cool too.
http://www.tacticoolproducts.com/sub-2000bolttubecover/

 

[jmstevens2]

I like having a PCC that fits in a pack and uses the same Mags as the pistol on my side. I do have a real rifle handy, but it is a nice in between rifle. worst case, more ammo for my pistol.