Keltec p11

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I like them and have taken it up over my J frame revolvers when I need a gun smaller than my G19. I wish it had the Glock trigger but at 25' it is dependable and double the capacity of my J's.
 
Someone already posted (http://www.1bad69.com/keltec/droptestresults.htm).

The P11 does not have a hammer block. The PF-9 you mentioned does (and P3AT and P32). If you ever take the frame of your PF-9 out of the grip, to put it back in you have to use a screwdriver to first push back the hammer block. If you ever do it, you will see it. Sits right below the hammer area.

There are so few modern guns with this (can't even think of another right now) that don't have a hammer block.
 
one of a very few modern autos that is NOT drop safe.
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True that there is no hammer or firing pin block, but there's not much mass to the hammer either. I have accidentally dropped mine from over 5 ft, onto asphalt directly on the rear of the slide (I could tell from the scarring) with no discharge. I wouldn't want to try it on purpose though, even with a firing pin block. I've had my P-11 for about 7 years and it is my primary carry piece. I just love it!
 
I will add that the slide is very stiff so it might not be the ticket for those who don't have hand strength. My daughter has no trouble with the G17/19 slide but couldn't get the p11 without much difficulty and the trigger gave her fits.
My groups hit about 8" below POA due to the sharp break when the trigger rolls over. I'm sure if I shot it as much as my G19 I would become more accustomed to it but the groups center fine I'll just have to remember to aim high:rolleyes:
 
My daughter has the one my brother bought for her college graduation. Other than the "cap-gun" trigger feel, it hasn't had a single problem except it would not feed DEA-issue Federal 9mm 147 grain Hydrashoks. They nosedived into the feed ramp every time from all three magazines (2 - stock 10 rounders, 1 - S&W Mod 59 15 rounder.) We have since loaded it with Winchester 115 grain Silvertips (standard pressure), and it hasn't missed a beat.

I would trust it with my life since I trust it with my daughter's.

ECS
 
Bought one years ago. It has been reliable, and accuracy under 15 yards is amazingly good. Never tried any 147 gr. 9x19 in it, don't care for the load, but it feeds anything in the 124 or 115 gr loads that I've tried. :)
 
The only times I carry mine are when I am in sweats or on a bicycle and it is in a belly band. I used to carry an Airweight but capacity ruled out.
 
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Keltec p11
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I really like the P11, especially the real double-action and the heavy trigger. But then again, I enjoy shooting revolvers in double-action. The P11 is a defensive weapon. No chance of inadvertent double taps or discharges. It's a gun meant for 25 feet not 25 yards. Get good with this trigger and you'll get good with any gun.

The nice thing about it is that it takes 59xx and 69xx mags. Just gotta make sure the springs are heavier to compensate for the shorter cycle.
 
Mine was 100% reliable, but I could not get past the trigger. The heavy trigger made me very inaccurate with the gun, even at 10 yards or so. YMMV.
 
It is what it is, a hard recoiling little sd gun with a long (safe double trigger) American made at a decent price and a good support group that you can count on and slip in yourfront pocket without a print
 
I love the P11's trigger, long, smooth, great little revolver, er, flat revolver that feeds from the bottom. :D

The Keltec P-11,..as stated,..is not a range gun, nor is it intended for extreme accuracy at distance. Not its nich. Up close and personal,...10 yards or less,..with a man sized target,.... aiming center mass. Yup.
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Mine prints 3.5" groups off a bench at 25 yards and I can routinely mow down 6 of 6 8" plates at that range. The gun points well up close, of course I'm used to it. I've put over 11,000 rounds through the gun in the last 16 years. I've even scored well with it shooting a couple of IDPA matches with it. It is a very accurate gun for its size, like a service gun in a pocket, but some folks can't hit the side of a barn from inside the barn shooting DA and refuse to learn, just gripe about the guns, so DA guns get a bad wrap sometimes. I guess those folks would rather carry a 4 lb short throw gun with no safeties other than a doohickey on the trigger in their pocket. Well, it's their gonads, not mine.

My P11 is still my favorite carry and gets carried the most. It just makes more sense, 11 rounds of +P 9 with service gun accuracy. It broke an extractor not long ago. Kel Tec sent me the new generation extractor, didn't fit as mine is first generation, had been a redesign. Just chatting via e/mail in 3 more days the right extractor was in my mailbox. The customer service is impeccable IMHO.
 
one of a very few modern autos that is NOT drop safe.
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Oh gosh, it's not drop safe.

Here's a hint - don't drop your freaking gun!

It's also not point it at somebody and pull the trigger safe. Could be hazardous if you do.

Were you also aware that eating Big Macs can be bad for your health?

Hey, I never go out wearing my gun unless my nanny comes with me. Goodness gracious, what if I should have to be responsible for myself and my actions?

I'll bet that you're a proponent of the OHSHA cowboy.

http://horsehints.org/SnortsOshaCowboy.htm

Some people can find the damndest things to nitpick and worry about.

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Oh gosh, it's not drop safe.

Here's a hint - don't drop your freaking gun!
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Stuff happens.

Longtime SWAT Magazine Contributing Editor Steve Malloy was killed in a tragic shooting accident at his home on April 16. As best as can be determined, Steve had a pistol in his waistband and when he bent over to tie his shoes, the pistol fell onto the floor and discharged—the bullet struck Steve in the chest. He was found in the garage, apparently trying to leave the home to summon aid.

--http://www.tactical-life.com/online/combat-handguns/dropped-gun-inertia-discharge/
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Should he have been more careful? Yeah. Isn't it great that we have a lot of guns now that won't kill you if they fall on the ground? Yeah.
 
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Oh gosh, it's not drop safe.

Here's a hint - don't drop your freaking gun!
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My aren't we testy today. Personally I am glad I was told it was not drop safe. I was not aware of it. Of course dropping any gun is not good but at least now I know.

What is that I keep reading? Take the high road?
 
Just got a message from Bud's. They told me they were changing the sale log to show I received a .40

I am now the proud new owner of a P-40. Hopefully I can get a chance to shoot it soon. Not bad for $189.
 
The Kel Tec P-11 is a good gun out of the box with decent accuracy. The nice thing about the P-11 is that if you have some mechanical skills you can turn it into a great little gun, with a decent trigger. Go over to the KTOG site and you will find a group that have all the info you need to make this a great purchase.

After installing the trigger stop, the aluminum trigger cover, the trigger spring mod, the Fluff and Buff, and a Houge Handall Jr. grip, I have a reliable CCW carry gun that will eat whatever I feed it. All that for around $200 +/-. Is it a fun gun to shoot? Not necessarily, but I would trust my life with it, and I do all the time.

If you go into the purchase with this in mind, you will be happy with the outcome. I carry mine every day in either a Smartcarry, Fobus paddle, or Uncle Mike's nylon holster. :D

Here's a link to KTOG's site.

http://www.thektog.org/
 
I had a P11 and it was a fine gun. It was accurate, too. More so that most claim.

My problem with it was that it was supposed to be my carry gun, and I never really got as adept with the trigger as other folks. I shoot guns with much better triggers, and shooting the P11 was, each time I fired it, like a relearning process. I didn't think that was a problem.

Until I tried it at an IDPA match. The first string of fire, rounds just didn't go where I thought they should. Not the gun's fault -- mine. After the first string I didn't have any more problems, and did quite well with it. I noticed, later, at the range, my first few shots were always a bit off. It was my need to adjust to the trigger, which was far different than anything else I shoot.

I got to thinking that maybe this wasn't the gun I needed as a carry weapon, if I shot other guns, too. I felt I might have that same "first string" problem in a real life situation. So I traded it away. I later tried several other K-T guns, and now have a PF-9 that I frequently carry. No problem with that trigger, which is more "conventional" in most respects. Still a long pull, but not a problem.

If you shoot the P11 most often, I think you'll be well served. But if you shoot other guns, "Muscle Memory" may bite you in the butt.
 
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