Kerik Bows Out!

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FWIW - it is now being reported that a BENCH WARRANT has been made out for Kerik by the East Rutherford, NJ Court. Seems Kerik is behind in his maintenance payments for a condominium to the tune of $20,000 and has refused to respond. Foreclosure proceedings have begun on his condo at 39 Triumph Circle, East Rutherford.

Questions have come up as to why he only spent 14 weeks in Iraq when his contract called for 6 months. I wonder how many Tasers he sold in Iraq when he was 'chief of police' and major stockholder of Taser Co.?

His nanny was part of a identity theft ring. She was using papers, Social Security number, etc. from another person without that person's knowledge. The nanny is now safely back in Mexico.

Looks like he hasn't paid all his New York taxes, either.

Let's see what else pops up in the next few days.
 
Asa Hutchinson is mentioned as a possible replacement. Remember, that is the guy who made an ass of himself on the morning DJ show in LA (?) when they quizzed him about why he stopped the sweeps for illegal immigrants.

Anybody still got that link to the audio?
 
Yep that is just what we need Someone in charge of homeland security that doesn't see nothing wrong with the illegals just walking over. I voted for GWB but it was a vote against Kerry instead of a vote for GWB. More and more I wonder what the war in Iraq is really about. Lots of oil their and GWB and allot of the leaders in Washington have made allot of money in oil. I for one can't buy the idea if 4 million illegals coming over every year isn't a threat to are country that Iraq is that big a threat. Then again their is allot more profit with paying low wages to worker. Say you think oil and the cheap labor from the illegals could be a reason for are leaders doing what they are doing?? You can take it to the bank!
 
okay, sit down, stay calm...

Newsmax
Sunday, Dec. 12, 2004 10:52 a.m. EST
'Trusted' Janet Reno Aide Touted as Homeland Chief

A woman described as "a close personal friend of [former] Attorney General Janet Reno" who also seved as Reno's
"most trusted adviser" has become the media's favorite candidate to replace Homeland Security Chief Tom Ridge,
after Bernard Kerik withdrew his name from contention late Friday.

Frances Fragos Townsend currently serves as the White House's homeland security advisor. But Washington
insiders marvel at her ability to survive the transition from the Clinton administration.

"To many old Washington hands, the casting is stunning," reported U.S. News & World Report in early December.
"A registered Republican, Townsend, 42, is a holdover from the Clinton administration, where she served as
Attorney General Janet Reno's trusted but controversial intelligence adviser."

U.S. News noted that the former Clintonista was "so controversial that Reno's replacement, John Ashcroft, dropped
Townsend from the top intelligence job."

But now, said the magazine, "She's back in power--big time."

"There's this huge head scratch to the whole thing," a former Justice Department official in the Clinton administration
said. "How can this crowd of people [at the Bush White House] who are all about, 'Oh, you've got to be a true
believer,' let her into the fold and allow her to reach this incredible height?"

While Townsend has her fans in the Bush administration - most notably Deputy Attorney General James Comey,
who dropped a Pardongate probe into Hillary Clinton in 2002 - she also has her detractors.

"She's one of the most ambitious people I've met," a former Bush administration official told the magazine. "She's
always sucking up."

In 1998, at Attorney General Reno's request, Townsend became the head of the powerful Office of Intelligence
Policy and Review.

According to U.S. News, Townsend found herself in the middle of that debate over the notorious
intelligence-sharing "wall" erected by Reno's other trusted deputy, Jamie Gorelick.

"Many FBI agents say Townsend was crucial in obtaining FISA wiretaps, especially during the period of heightened
terrorism concerns around the new millennium," said U.S. News.

"But many prosecutors felt that Townsend was less than helpful in making sure the FBI shared wiretap data with
lawyers at Main Justice when there was evidence of criminal activity. . . Some Justice Department prosecutors felt
Townsend wanted to keep the wall up because it kept prosecutors out of national security investigations, leaving
more authority in the hands of Townsend and friendly bureau agents."

Both the Government Accountability Office and the 9/11 Commission blamed Townsend's agency in part for the
government's intelligence failures before the 9/11 attacks.

Despite the mixed reviews, the former Clintonista has become a favorite with the press.

The New York Daily News, which has been sharply critical of Kerik, headlined a glowing profile of Townsend on
Sunday, "For Her, Homeland Security Means Life & Death."

The press campaign on behalf of the former Reno aide has even drawn the attention of foreign reporters, with
Agence France Press noting on Saturday, "According to US media, Bush may now turn to Frances Townsend, the
White House homeland security adviser, as the next head of the department."
 
I doubt if the bench warrant is for failure to pay his bills. Debtors' Prison went out years ago. Nor can it be for the breach of contract when he cut his tour in Iraq too short. That's a civil matter.

Now, misappropriating public funds for private use is something for which an arrest warrant may be issued.

Homeland Security - sheeshs. The gubmint arm that wants us to be sheeple.
 
My understanding is that the 'bench warrant' is for 'failure to appear.' Judges in civil court don't like to be ignored.
 
My understanding is that the 'bench warrant' is for 'failure to appear.' Judges in civil court don't like to be ignored.
Dunno how the courts work in NJ, but where I come from if one party in a civil dispute fails to show, the judge usually just enters a default judgment in favor of the other party and goes home. Bench warrants are for crim-uh-nals.
 
More .......

It also appears Kerik forgot to report the gifts he received when he was PC of NYPD. Jewelry, furniture for his new home, his wedding reception, etc.

He sort of had sex with his subordinates, too. I hope it wasn't with those 2 gorillas posing as his bodyguards.
 
Looks like this fellow pulled his own card before it got pulled for him.
Not sure for a fact were he stood on 2A but if past behavior is any indication we, as owners and users of firearms, are better off.

Drudge is loaded with stuff about this dude's darks side issues but of primary concern is Guliani may have had a major hand in convincing W to pick Kerick in the first place. It scares me W depends on a fellow like Guliani for advice on this kind for this caliber of appointment.
Let's hope W pulls a better rabbit out of his hat on the next go round.

I wonder if some of the staunch verbal support W received here on THR following the election might be reconsidered by those that made it given this fiasco.

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Well my support of any candidate in the last few elections was shaky and based on "least-worst" and which would do less overall damage to rights and country.

The Whitehouse is trying to blame it all on Kerik. Hey, if a guy is dishonest, can you count on him telling you? An honest man and a con man will give you the same answers. The Whitehouse had the responsibility to do background research on him. You can blame a person for lying to you, but given the time and resources, you have to take the blame for beliving the lie.
NBC news says that the FBI does a background check after a candidate is announced, but that shouldn't have stopped the administration from doing its own check. Consider something else - individual writers and news organizations have less resources. If they find something with less people and resources, what does that say about you?
 
I wonder if some of the staunch verbal support W received here on THR following the election might be reconsidered by those that made it given this fiasco. - selfdfenz

Sorry, the ball's in your court. The question is whether some can ever give up there penchant for Bush bashing. After the election it's time for people to be supportive of their President. If they have any continuing concerns, the only thing they can do about it is plan for the next election, the campaign for which will start soon enough. The time for shrill naysaying has passed. You can either think positively or negatively. Guess which one is considered healthier.

The Whitehouse is trying to blame it all on Kerik. - Croyance

Look how you are rationalizing here. You are predisposed to find fault and fabricating reasons to be critical. Put yourself in a similar situation and see how it feels. What do you actually "know"? The background checking process worked exactly the way it is supposed to. If it forces someone out, why is it suddenly fair to say they should have known?
 
RealGun,

"Look how you are rationalizing here."

Sorry, but you might benefit from a dose of that same medication.

Seldfenz-

This illustrates your point about how we don't listen to each other, so why bother.
 
In addition to his wife, Kerik had 2 girlfriends - CO Jeannette Pinero (married) and publisher Judith Regan. The guy must have been popping Viagra like breath mints.

He also had a secret apartment in NYC where he met his 2 girlfriends. (Hope he changed sheets.) Some company was paying $6,000 per month in rent for Bernie.

Also got a couple of lawsuits against him - 6 figures.

Now there is talk about Mob ties .......
 
If that Judith Regan is this one:

"The editors were impressed, and she joined Simon & Schuster, developing a string of best-selling celebrity “tell-all†books, including those by talk show host Rush Limbaugh and radio personality Howard Stern."

....the Rush show might be an interesting listen today. Wonder how he will spin it?

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In addition to his wife, Kerik had 2 girlfriends - CO Jeannette Pinero (married) and publisher Judith Regan. The guy must have been popping Viagra like breath mints.

Wooo Hooooo!!!!

Uh, I mean, uh... that's wrong! ;)

It's the same Judith Regan, Stern was talking about it today. This guy had a whole lot going on!
 
"....the Rush show might be an interesting listen today. Wonder how he will spin it?"

Rush called Kerik's two affairs a "resume enhancement. For Democrats".

After some "jokes" about the situation he then transitioned to the Mark Rich involvement in the UN Oil for Food program to I guess demonstratr a real scandal.
 
It just gets worse. So much for supposed Republican morals... :barf:



Tuesday December 14, 6:38 AM
Kerik Problems May Have Gone Beyond Nanny
Bernard Kerik's nanny problem might have proved the least of his troubles if he had pressed ahead with his bid to become homeland security secretary.

The past few days have seen news reports about a rash of possible personal and professional improprieties on the part of the former New York City police commissioner, including big stock-option windfalls, connections with people suspected of doing business with the mob, and, on Monday, allegations he had simultaneous extramarital affairs with two women.

Citing unidentified sources, the New York Daily News said Kerik had overlapping affairs with Judith Regan, the publisher of his recent memoir, and a city correction officer. He used the same New York City apartment for liaisons with the women during his 18-month tenure as head of the nation's largest police department ending in 2001, the paper said.

Kerik, 49, who married his current wife in 1998 and has two children with her, apparently grew close to Regan while writing his book, "The Lost Son," in which he described being abandoned by his prostitute mother.

The relationship first drew scrutiny in 2001 after Kerik reportedly dispatched detectives to question people the publisher had accused of stealing her cell phone. In 2002, Kerik was ordered to pay a conflict-of-interest fine for using three police officers to do research about his mother for the book.

Other recent reports claim that around the same time of the alleged affairs, Kerik accepted unreported gifts of thousands of dollars in cash and other items from associates at a New Jersey construction company while serving under Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, first as correction chief, then as police commissioner. Authorities suspect the company, Interstate Industrial Corp., has ties to organized crime; the company denies any wrongdoing.

Kerik's attorney, Joseph Tacopina, said Monday he would not comment on any aspect of his client's personal life. A call to Regan was not immediately returned.

Giuliani _ a close friend and business associate who had actively promoted the former street cop's Cabinet candidacy _ refused to discuss the alleged affairs.

"The things about his personal life, he'll have to answer himself," he told reporters outside his New York consulting firm, where Kerik also works.

Kerik withdrew his nomination Friday night because, it turned out, he had briefly employed an illegal immigrant as a housekeeper and nanny.

Giuliani still insisted Kerik would have been a "very, very good choice" for homeland security secretary if not for the nanny problem.

"Everyone thinks he would have been superbly qualified," he said, adding that Kerik would remain a partner at the firm, Giuliani Partners.

President Bush remains convinced Kerik "is someone who has a solid record of achievement," White House spokesman Scott McClellan said.

It was unclear whether Kerik was working on Monday. A message left for him at Giuliani Partners was not immediately returned.

When Bush picked Kerik on Dec. 3 to succeed Tom Ridge as homeland security chief, he won early support in Republican and some Democratic quarters based on his leadership of the Police Department following the Sept. 11 attacks.

But others questioned whether Kerik had the management experience to continue the nearly 2-year-long effort to meld the pieces of the sprawling Homeland Security Department, which has more than 180,000 employees from 22 federal agencies.

Democrats also were focusing on Kerik's recent windfall from exercising stock options in a stun gun company that does business with the department. He earned $6.2 million from the options received from Taser International.

Those around Kerik _ and even Kerik himself _ may have paid the price for becoming too enamored of his image as a brash, self-made law enforcer, said Stanley Renshon, a political scientist and psychoanalyst at the City University of New York's Graduate Center in Manhattan.

"Kerik is a great rags-to-accomplishment story and Bush really likes that because it fits into is view of the American dream," Renshon said. "What's different about them is that Bush is pretty much a straight shooter. He's a straight-and-narrow kind of guy, and Kerik clearly is a lot less that."

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Associated Press writers Donna de la Cruz and Devlin Barrett in Washington contributed to this report.
 
I stand by my original assessment of Kerik as Sec of DHS: a bullet-headed thug who thinks the rules apply only to those he would oppress with his Dept of Fatherland Zekurity, not to him.
 
Look how you are rationalizing here. You are predisposed to find fault and fabricating reasons to be critical. Put yourself in a similar situation and see how it feels. What do you actually "know"? The background checking process worked exactly the way it is supposed to. If it forces someone out, why is it suddenly fair to say they should have known? - RealGun
I am predisposed to believing people should do their job competently. Are the "gifts", warrant, and affairs fabricated? Is there a reasonable belief that everybody tells you all the dirt on their background, or is should you research a guy?
How would it feel if I was in the same situation? Pretty bad, because I didn't do my job. It is also so public that I shouldn't be expected to find another job after my stunning incompetence was found.
The backgrouind checking process is supposed to have guys suprise you with their background? The "process" is having a guy lead you into a minefield? What if he said nothing until the Whitehouse was ambushed in confirmation hearings or until reporters uncover a candidate's background for you?
The FBI background check doesn't begin until the candidate is announced, but reporters hardly have the resources of the FBI. The Whitehouse should have done their homework, period. Why is it fair to say this? Because they have staffs of lawyers, aids, and connections to find out. Not the huge resources of the Drudge report or The Smoking Gun, sure, but an adequate group.
 
The evening news has also reported that the White House also knew of Kerik's "colorful past" but thought he could make it through the hearings anyways. How much they knew remains in question, but the iceberg theory should have tipped them off to do homework. If you hear or know of a little, there is a lot more out there. Find out!

RealGun, a part I forgot to say. For eight years the Republicans would have me believe everything they had to say about Democrats. Why does the same standard not apply to them? They claimed that Republicans were the moral party and every piece of gossip about Clinton was true. Thus, they are doubly damned in my eyes. First, as I said, I should by their claims hold rumors about them to the same standard of proof. Second, they claim to be better so they should be held to higher standards.
Or we can all admit they are all of the same ilk. The White House has yet to say that any of the information brought up about Kerik is wrong or exaggerated. Neither has Guilliani. If they have evidence exonerating him, or if Kerik himself has evidence, why is it not brought forward.
 
The FBI background check doesn't begin until the candidate is announced,

Exactly, and there you have it. Prior to that there was Giuliani's credible recommendation, which may not be so credible from this point forward.
 
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