Kilts in school?

[Sindawe]

Submitted without comment.

Student asked to change out of kilt seeks dress code change

Thursday, December 22, 2005; Posted: 10:51 a.m. EST (15:51 GMT)

JACKSON, Missouri (AP) -- Nathan Warmack wanted to honor his heritage by wearing a Scottish kilt to his high school dance. Then a principal told him to change into a pair of pants.

What began with a few yards of tartan has sparked an international debate about freedom, symbols and cultural dress. More than 1,600 people have signed an Internet petition seeking an apology for the high school senior.

Scots in the United States are assembling a traditional ensemble they hope the student will wear to the prom, and his family is trying to change the school's dress code policy.

"It's a kilt. It's going to turn heads, but I never believed it would have become what it is," Warmack said.

Other schools around the country also have wrestled with the issue. A principal in Victoria, Texas, ordered two boys into "more appropriate" attire when they wore kilts to school in 1992, saying: "I know kilts. Those weren't kilts and the boys aren't Scots."

In 1993, a student in Fayette County, Georgia, was not allowed to enter his prom at McIntosh High School because he showed up in a kilt and refused to change clothes.

Continues at: http://www.cnn.com/2005/EDUCATION/12/22/student.kilt.ap/

Petition in support of Nathan: http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?kilt05&1

 

[bogie]

Sexist and nationalist pigs.

 

[armoredman]

Some man wants to wear his national skirt in public, by all mean, let him do so. I remember in my high school, there was a flap over girls being allowed to wear miniskirts, but guys couldn't wear shorts, so two of the class clowns/activists wore thier girlfriends cheerleader skirts to school for about a week, until the school changed the policy.
Either let the kid wear something inopffensive as that, or change the whole school into uniforms, and be done with it.

 

[Preacherman]

It's all part of the anti-violence drive in schools... after all, someone might get kilt!

 

[Janitor]

It's hard for them to assimilate somebody who insists on acting differently from the flock.
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[El Tejon]

Sounds like they need a bit more book learnin' out there. Ejamakashun, the salvation of our youth

Hey, McSmartie of the McBookreading clan, the kilt is an English invention that we made you Scots wear since you didn't even own pants!

If you really want to connect with your roots, just wear a shirt and nothing else. That will really turn heads.

/s/ El Tejon, your friendly English ruler

 

[Janitor]

... for example, El T will never be assimilated.


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[El Tejon]

My people have been repelling invaders and conquering others for thousands of years. School administrators are weak tea compared to a Dane or even a Zulu.

 

[Waitone]

<mutters to self "Don't be so cynical, don't be so cynical, don't be. . . . I'll dood it.>

Whatcha wanna bet the perp is a Honky-American wanting to celebrate his cultural heritage but for some reason that is out of bounds.

 

[Glock Glockler]

the kilt is an English invention that we made you Scots wear since you didn't even own pants

"Hey, Krusty, don't you hate pants"?

- Homer

 

[Mongo the Mutterer]

the kilt is an English invention that we made you Scots wear since you didn't even own pants

"Hey, Krusty, don't you hate pants"?

- Homer

Hey at least he didn't show up naked and painted blue, as is the Celtic tradition for battle...

 

[Janitor]

My people have been repelling invaders and conquering others for thousands of years. School administrators are weak tea compared to a Dane or even a Zulu.

Ahhh yes.

They come - they tow the line - they rant - they insist. But they are mere canon fodder when faced with our eccentricities.
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[1911 guy]

Okay, there's got to be a punchline somewhere.

So some kids can show up to school wearing bandanas, gang colors, pants hanging around their cracks and get away with it because it's "their culture", yet some white kid shows up in a kilt that's been part of an established culture for about a milenium and is out of bounds? I think I see a message here. The message is "Hey, Whitey, diversity don't include you".

 

[gfen]

Or, perhaps its more to do with gender roles and indenties and teh fact that a kilt is only a few letters away from a skirt.

Look, I don't care. I've been tempted to wear a dress to work a few times in my own similar complaint as to why men are required to wear business casual, but women can skirt (who could resist the pun?) the line much closer. But, let's not see racism where none is intended, the colour of their skin has nothing to do with the fact that we can see their legs.

 

[Lupinus]

hey so long as he wears his huggies and isn't enjoying the breeze let him wear his man skirt with pride.

Now I mean I could see a literal skirt and not allowing a kid to cross dress in school. But a kilt is definativly a piece of male clothing....even if it is the butt of many jokes.

 

[MarkDido]

So some kids can show up to school wearing bandanas, gang colors, pants hanging around their cracks and get away with it because it's "their culture", yet some white kid shows up in a kilt that's been part of an established culture for about a milenium and is out of bounds? I think I see a message here. The message is "Hey, Whitey, diversity don't include you".

Heard about this on the radio today, and apparently there is a little more too it than was presented.

The "yute" in question showed up to his formal high school dance, yes, wearing a kilt, but also sneakers, those little "footie" socks and a T-shirt.

Doesn't exactly sound like his was "honoring his Scottish heritage" to me.

 

[yonderway]

I'd like that wee principal to try calling me a "clown" to my face...

 

[1911 guy]

Kilts, skirts and "gender roles"

Any man wearing a kilt does not look anything like a woman wearing a dress. Do I wear a kilt? No, I'm of Kraut descent, but I do play the bagpipes. Normal dress in american society is well fitting pants and shirt for men, coat and tie if warranted. If deviation from that is alright for one group or style of dress, why is it not alright for another? In this limited instance, it may be just the objections to a kilt specifically. Once you address the larger issue, my previous post is on the money, IMO.

I'm not trying to paint everyone with the same brush, but the types that push the agenda are out there. We do well to squash them so the remaining 99 percent of society can get on with getting on.

 

[yonderway]

The "yute" in question showed up to his formal high school dance, yes, wearing a kilt, but also sneakers, those little "footie" socks and a T-shirt.

False. That's what he wore for a reporter that unexpectedly wanted a picture of him wearing a kilt during an interview in his home.

He wore a white shirt and tie. While he didn't go with full formal scottish regalia, most people who wear the kilt daily (like me) can tell you that a lot of that is a load of romanticist crap that's not really deeply rooted in Scottish culture & tradition.

The tartan he wore was his clan tartan. He has done his people proud.

It's only the "weekend wallaces" that want to impose much stricture rules on the use of the kilt.

 

[Zundfolge]

So I bet if he was a Transvestite child the ACLU would be backing his discrimination suit.

 

[Lupinus]

So I bet if he was a Transvestite child the ACLU would be backing his discrimination suit.

Well remember who they are here.

 

[MarkDido]

False. That's what he wore for a reporter that unexpectedly wanted a picture of him wearing a kilt during an interview in his home.

He wore a white shirt and tie. While he didn't go with full formal scottish regalia, most people who wear the kilt daily (like me) can tell you that a lot of that is a load of romanticist crap that's not really deeply rooted in Scottish culture & tradition.

The tartan he wore was his clan tartan. He has done his people proud.

It's only the "weekend wallaces" that want to impose much stricture rules on the use of the kilt.

I stand corrected.

Mark

 

[Firehand]

The original kilt was indeed from Scotland; the modern 'small kilt' was a modification by an English mill owner.

 

[Mnemesyne]

My husband is of Scottish descent and I encourage him to wear a kilt I personally do not see what the big uproar is about...


Mneme

 

[Lupinus]

yonder I just have to ask...

Hows the CCW in that thing?