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I bought one and am looking for anyone who has or has shot one. What did you think, how did it handle, how was accuracy, etc.
Kimber BP ten 2
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rbernie
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I had one, and liked it. Magazines were expensive, but all in all it's a fine platform.
IIRC, it's really a BUL pistol that Kimber imports.
IIRC, it's really a BUL pistol that Kimber imports.
benelli12
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I have one and I like it. The only bad part are the expensive mags, other than that it is very accurate and reliable.
wally
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Kimber has Mec-Gar make their 13-round Para P14 mags with a slightly different location for the mag catch cutout and then sell them to you at 2X the price. You can carefully widen the P14 mag catch cutout to make it lock in and then work in the Kimber BP. I've done it more than once.
--wally.
--wally.
benelli12
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Well the grip for me is fine, but I kinda have medium-large hands. With my FN 9mm the grip is to small/thin and my whole pointer finger sticks out the other side. But with the Kimber BP102 the grips fill my hand almost perfectly.
wally
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Basically I took the mag apart and put the floorplate back on. Then I made the mag catch cut-out wider toward the top with a small file, checking often to see if it would lock in with the slide forward. Then I re-assembled and made sure the loaded mag would lock in with the slide forward. Once it did, I measured the gap and used a Dremel to get close on the others before final fitting by hand. First one was slow, rest went pretty quick
Some of my batch of Mec-Gars (right after the ban ended) wouldn't lock the slide back so I filed a bit off the sides of the follower so it could come up higher in the empty tube. This is best done with the slide off so you can see where the follower hits the top of the mag body before it comes up enough to activate the slide lock. Recent Mec-Gars haven't needed this, and the issue wasn't confined to the mags modified for the Kimber BP.
I like to have enough mags to pre-load at least a box of ammo before going to the range, since 8+ months of the year its way to hot to be standing outside in the heat stuffing mags, it was like getting a two for one sale
If I was starting now, I'd try one of the 14-round ACT Para P14 mags so I could get an extra round. These cost about the same as the Mec-Gars and will accept the +N aftermarket Para baseplates, and have so far been perfect in my Para P14 and Armscor P14 clone.
HTH,
--wally.
Some of my batch of Mec-Gars (right after the ban ended) wouldn't lock the slide back so I filed a bit off the sides of the follower so it could come up higher in the empty tube. This is best done with the slide off so you can see where the follower hits the top of the mag body before it comes up enough to activate the slide lock. Recent Mec-Gars haven't needed this, and the issue wasn't confined to the mags modified for the Kimber BP.
I like to have enough mags to pre-load at least a box of ammo before going to the range, since 8+ months of the year its way to hot to be standing outside in the heat stuffing mags, it was like getting a two for one sale
If I was starting now, I'd try one of the 14-round ACT Para P14 mags so I could get an extra round. These cost about the same as the Mec-Gars and will accept the +N aftermarket Para baseplates, and have so far been perfect in my Para P14 and Armscor P14 clone.
HTH,
--wally.
jetdriver
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Interesting info Wally. I'm watching this thread with interest. I am looking to buy a Pro BP Ten II again. Sold one I had a few yrs ago, but now I miss it.
The mags were the achilles heel of the platform IMHO.
I'm actually gonna sell my XD 45 to get the Kimber, I miss it that much...
The mags were the achilles heel of the platform IMHO.
I'm actually gonna sell my XD 45 to get the Kimber, I miss it that much...
This was my first Kimber, and the first one to go away. Mine was an earlier Series II with the external extractor.
When I first got it, I liked it quite a bit. It was accurate as hell, and some online digging found out the mod for the mecgar para mags to make them fit ($13.00 13 rnd magazines). I did have one issue right away, the thumb safety stuck out from the edge of the pistol and dug into my hand while shooting. A few seconds with a dremel to remove the excess edge took care of that problem.
It was pretty stiff, and had some feeding issues. My solution was to shoot it in. After what I thought was a good enough break in period (600 rnds) with it still not feeding ball reliably, I sent it back to Kimber for some work. They sent the gun back without doing anything to it and told me to shoot it more (another 600 rounds). I was annoyed with them to say the least. I talked to their customer service reps and let them know that I thought a 1200 round break in period was ridiculous. My gun shop had just started to get kimbers coming back in with problems, so after digging around online, I found out about some feeding issues with the series II extractors. I'd actually not checked that out since it was an external extractor. I checked the tension on mine and found it was way too tight. I actually had difficulty getting a round under it by hand.
I sent it back to kimber again for repair, this time with a zip tie with my initials on the bottom side run thru the gun. The gun came back 8 weeks later with my initialed zip tie still on it and a letter saying they'd replaced blah blah parts and done some polish work to it. I gave Kimber a call and ripped into them big time, as did my manager. Sold the BP Ten II & my Custom II and won't own another.
Fast forward about 6 months, one of my friends picks up one and it shoots absolutely flawlessly after the inital, brief, breakin period. I think the gun is fine, just Kimbers external extractors have some problems. Hence them switching their guns back to internals in April of last year.
BTW, for a cheaper alternative, BUL Transmark is now using Charles Daly as a US importer.
When I first got it, I liked it quite a bit. It was accurate as hell, and some online digging found out the mod for the mecgar para mags to make them fit ($13.00 13 rnd magazines). I did have one issue right away, the thumb safety stuck out from the edge of the pistol and dug into my hand while shooting. A few seconds with a dremel to remove the excess edge took care of that problem.
It was pretty stiff, and had some feeding issues. My solution was to shoot it in. After what I thought was a good enough break in period (600 rnds) with it still not feeding ball reliably, I sent it back to Kimber for some work. They sent the gun back without doing anything to it and told me to shoot it more (another 600 rounds). I was annoyed with them to say the least. I talked to their customer service reps and let them know that I thought a 1200 round break in period was ridiculous. My gun shop had just started to get kimbers coming back in with problems, so after digging around online, I found out about some feeding issues with the series II extractors. I'd actually not checked that out since it was an external extractor. I checked the tension on mine and found it was way too tight. I actually had difficulty getting a round under it by hand.
I sent it back to kimber again for repair, this time with a zip tie with my initials on the bottom side run thru the gun. The gun came back 8 weeks later with my initialed zip tie still on it and a letter saying they'd replaced blah blah parts and done some polish work to it. I gave Kimber a call and ripped into them big time, as did my manager. Sold the BP Ten II & my Custom II and won't own another.
Fast forward about 6 months, one of my friends picks up one and it shoots absolutely flawlessly after the inital, brief, breakin period. I think the gun is fine, just Kimbers external extractors have some problems. Hence them switching their guns back to internals in April of last year.
BTW, for a cheaper alternative, BUL Transmark is now using Charles Daly as a US importer.
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i like it
I just picked my new bp ten 2 up today. I like it. it shoots softer than i thought it would and is as accurate as my favorite gun, another kimber. and only one malf in 200rds no lube. I just picked it up out of the box and shot it. it was a ftf and all I did was slap the bottom of the mag , problem solved bang bang bang.
I just picked my new bp ten 2 up today. I like it. it shoots softer than i thought it would and is as accurate as my favorite gun, another kimber. and only one malf in 200rds no lube. I just picked it up out of the box and shot it. it was a ftf and all I did was slap the bottom of the mag , problem solved bang bang bang.
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