Kimber Revolver? Shot Show

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Okay, so Kimber did say "revolutionary" in the small print of the ad the OP listed. Knock them if you will. But the big print said "REeVOLVE", and their website says "The evolution of the revolver", which is more like it.

It's the lightest all-steel, 6-shot revolver available. And, if pre-production and SHOT are to be believed, the new design gave them a blank canvas to improve the trigger. Something I feel the small-frame revolver world needed (and no, I don't like the LCR trigger).

And, anyone who thinks they should have gone with the more realistic tagline, "fills a niche left by Colt", has never been to marketing school.
 
To the extent one is worried about a mass shooter, one might consider the possibility of having to shoot an assailant wearing a vest from across the distance of a movie theater or large university classroom or cafeteria. That means a head shot at 50 or more feet. I'd like some real sights if I've got to try to pull that off, please.


You will need a real hammer to pull this off. Good sights without single action capability on a 2" revolver are superfluous
 
You seriously think it's not feasible to hit a 6" plate at 50 feet without cocking a revolver?
 
ljnowell, if you had to pick between taking a hard, distant shot DA with good sights or SA with lousy/rudimentary sights, which would you pick?
 
That's moving trying not to get shot?

50 feet isn't a very long shot if that's what you envision as a do or die scenario

If they're moving and trying to avoid being shot, they're probably about at the end of their rampage. Almost all mass shootings take place when and where there is no one returning fire. If the mass shooter anticipates being shot, he's going to go somewhere else entirely, not dodge around trying to duck bullets.
 
16 yards doable. But some DA triggers require both hands and a hydraulic jack to budge.

Sure. I've got an old Colt Pocket Positive that's like that. Getting any kind of accuracy out of it is a challenge.

But I don't find shooting, say, a S&W k-frame DA to be particularly hard once one learns to do it.

Anyway, we've wandered far afield. There are numerous decent DA trigger pulls on revolvers - decent enough that sights are useful.

Will this Kimber have a decent trigger? I have no idea. Never shot one. I guess we'll eventually find out.
 
I guess we'll eventually find out.

Eventually is the right word. According to the Kimber rep in some of the videos from range day, they aren't expecting these to be on dealer shelves until May or June. Seams like an awfully long time to me, but I am impatient. And eager to get my meat hooks on one to check it out.
 
ljnowell, if you had to pick between taking a hard, distant shot DA with good sights or SA with lousy/rudimentary sights, which would you pick?


Part of me wants to say "it depends."

The truth is I shoot NRA Bullseye, PPC, and other revolver police combat matches. I've taught myself to shoot nothing but double action with a revolver in my hands. I would probably still shoot double action unless it was something with a truly horrendous trigger, like a Nagant revolver or something.

So yes, I would rather shoot DA with good sites than SA with bad sights.
 
Same here. A few years ago, I tried shooting a revolver DA (a friend's) for the first time and was extremely displeased with my inability to do so with any consistent accuracy. Within a month, I bought an old Model 19 and resolved not to do any SA shooting with it. Eventually, I got it to a point of competence. A decent revolver DA trigger doesn't scare me... at least not any more than any other kind of decent trigger.
 
Okay, so Kimber did say "revolutionary" in the small print of the ad the OP listed. Knock them if you will. But the big print said "REeVOLVE", and their website says "The evolution of the revolver", which is more like it.

It's the lightest all-steel, 6-shot revolver available. And, if pre-production and SHOT are to be believed, the new design gave them a blank canvas to improve the trigger. Something I feel the small-frame revolver world needed (and no, I don't like the LCR trigger).

And, anyone who thinks they should have gone with the more realistic tagline, "fills a niche left by Colt", has never been to marketing school.
Good point. And there are indeed evolutionary changes and improvements over, say, an SP101. Higher capacity, lower weight, better sights, better trigger. Not revolutionary improvements within the genre, but evolutionary.
 
Solid and Affordable Revolvers

S&W,please re-instate the 3" J (maybe K) frame DA/SA revolver !:)

Pay heed Ruger, Colt, Charter, and others !:uhoh:

Also, on another venue, the 5" was a fab-u-lous handgun !:cool:

Kimber, get real with your prices !:neener:
 
A double-action trigger pull that you'd love to squeeze and still be reliable under all conditions isn't all that easy to come by. To the degree it's accomplished depends on how much leverage you can get out of the trigger to produce mechanical advantage in rotating the hammer backwards against the tension of both the trigger return and mainsprings.

This matter is seldom considered by armchair experts that are content to polish and hone, plus reduce the springs which are so important for reliability.

In small and medium frames they're isn't a lot of space to make substantial improvement when it comes to trigger leverage.

Ultimately the best and most productive solution is to practice dry-firing to build up finger and hand muscles.
 
For the best double action, don't squeeze the trigger. Push it.

Accuracy aside, this can also save one a trigger job.
 
Push the trigger, don't pull was a tip from a SWAT officer. You are controlling the gun, not the other way around.

After I got the hang of it, poor trigger action was more manageable.
 
Doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Hey, whatever works for you.

A fine line between disagreeing and bullying. It made sense to me. When I squeeze with a DA I have to compensate for the force toward the weak hand side. When I pull, my concentration is on the rearward direction rather than the overall compression of a "squeeze". It really is all just the alternative to jerking, trying to capture the unsteady sight picture. The rest is in the skill with the details. For me the real challenge is in just holding the gun steady, something that seems more challenging with age.
 
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One of these cost me $349 and fills the bill nicely.
 
What the heck - this topic is already all over the place so ---

Where do I get a Colt Lawman for $349 ???
 
Seems like quite a stretch to suggest that this Colt Lawman precludes any need for Kimber's new offering. Start with the hammer, then consider lack of availability and affordability. If I had a nice one, I would probably leave it in the safe.
 
"A SS snubby at 23 ounces. 357/38"

Should I sell my 649 and 442 and buy one? :confused:

My Rohrbaugh R9 still holds 7 rounds and weighs less than any of them.

Okay, back to drinking coffee and watching the snow storm predictions.

John
 
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