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ive been studying various designs of different firearms.. gaining a better understanding of them, how they function, the physics and engineering behind it all... and well, i seem to find an utter lack of recoil operated rifles... you have the 1941 johnson which wasnt much more than a prototype.. but after that one rifle... nothing
it should be clear that the FAMAS, and HK family rifles are delayed blowback (FAMAS being lever delayed, HK rifles being roller delayed)...
anyway.. blockback rifles have their problems, they usually run on the dirty side, though the simplest of designs, they can be the most dangerous too..
then you have the gas operated family of rifles... long-stroke, short stroke, rotating or tilting bolt, and each of these have their pros and cons as well... long stroke being more reliable, short stroke having less felt recoil.. and well, currently the short-stroke rotating bolt rifles dominate the autoloading market
and then theres the recoil operated design, of which the short-recoil action is in almost every single handgun out there now... long-recoil action was used in the old browning auto 5 shotguns i think..
so besides the johnson rifle which, to my understanding wasnt produced much due to reliability issues with a bayonet attached, and higher cost of production, slower reloading... why hasnt anyone ever went further into the developement of a recoil operated rifle?
advantages would be no gas loss, probably fewer moving parts, some say the '41 johnson had lesser felt recoil, the entire action could be in-line with the barrel and stock, reducing muzzle lift when firing, less weight, not needing a gas tube or piston... so what disadvantages would there be?
it should be clear that the FAMAS, and HK family rifles are delayed blowback (FAMAS being lever delayed, HK rifles being roller delayed)...
anyway.. blockback rifles have their problems, they usually run on the dirty side, though the simplest of designs, they can be the most dangerous too..
then you have the gas operated family of rifles... long-stroke, short stroke, rotating or tilting bolt, and each of these have their pros and cons as well... long stroke being more reliable, short stroke having less felt recoil.. and well, currently the short-stroke rotating bolt rifles dominate the autoloading market
and then theres the recoil operated design, of which the short-recoil action is in almost every single handgun out there now... long-recoil action was used in the old browning auto 5 shotguns i think..
so besides the johnson rifle which, to my understanding wasnt produced much due to reliability issues with a bayonet attached, and higher cost of production, slower reloading... why hasnt anyone ever went further into the developement of a recoil operated rifle?
advantages would be no gas loss, probably fewer moving parts, some say the '41 johnson had lesser felt recoil, the entire action could be in-line with the barrel and stock, reducing muzzle lift when firing, less weight, not needing a gas tube or piston... so what disadvantages would there be?