LAPD Prepares for Suicide Bombers

[DRZinn]

Not that I'm suggesting this actually is the case, but:

If I were a white (IRA?) bomber, suicide or otherwise, the easiest way to throw suspicion away from me would be to do it near an Arab (of whom there are many in London.) Look at what their evidence is: Pakistani youths reported missing on that day and, in some cases, their remains found in the bombings.

Again, I'm not saying that happened. It's just that it popped into my head.

 

[Andrew Rothman]

Look at what their evidence is: Pakistani youths reported missing on that day and, in some cases, their remains found in the bombings.

...And the four of them seen together on videotape minutes before the explosions, each carrying a similar military-style backpack.

Pretty dang strong evidence, if you ask me.

 

[Baba Louie]

So maybe we should add millions of CCTV's to our nations arsenal of democracy so we can wade through hours of poor quality video tape (digital?) to identify (after the fact) possible suspects. Couple that with DNA data on file and with National ID, we'll eventually be able to know who did what... once it's over and done... Maybe.

Then we can go around and blow up other things in controlled explosions that may or may not be actually nefarious...

Interesting times we live in huh? Is that a curse or a blessing? I forget which

 

[longeyes]

once a leftist, always a leftist

Blair's more interested in hate crimes against Muslims, EVEN NOW, than in protecting his own nation. He still wants to reach out, "dialogue." Amazing. Yesterday I had to listen to him blathering about protecting, at all costs, the "diverse, multicultural" nation that he claims is "the envy of the entire world." Really? A lot of us think the UK never recovered from WW II. Yes, Virginia, there is such a thing as mass delusion--and Tony Blair is its spokesman.

 

[DRZinn]

...And the four of them seen together on videotape minutes before the explosions, each carrying a similar military-style backpack.

Pretty dang strong evidence, if you ask me.

I know, that's why I'm not suggesting that that's what actually happened. It was just a thought.

 

[El Rojo]

Put on your tinfoil hats because this just came to me. What were the odds that Foxnews would run a report about the LAPD ramping up about suicide bombers just a mere 4 days before suicide bombers hit London? It came to me as I was reading this thread and realized the incredible coincidence that we were already discussing suicide bombers when suicide bombers hit. Why are we so blind to this incredible bit of information?

So here are the theories.

1) The government knew there was credible information that a suicide bombing was going to take place in the near future. Someone leaked that information to Foxnews, but without more, they could only warn people by doing a piece on the LAPD efforts to combat this act without tipping their hand that they won't follow the media order of a blackout on serious terrorist threats and thus keep the sheeple in the dark.

2) The government is behind the entire War on Terror and it was a plot by King George to further his dad's idea of a "New World Order" to pay these CIA operatives to blow themselves up in London. Somehow Foxnews figured it out and was trying to leak it to the general public without tipping their hand and having their entire corporation shut down and the top executives die in a horrible accident.

I gotta go. I am not sure if my tinfoil hat was covering my head completely so they might know that I know what they know. To the underground bunker!!!

 

[R.H. Lee]

Look, terrorist attacks will happen in the U.S. Government at every level has assured us it will happen. Probably explosives in heavily populated areas or on mass transit. American men, women and children will be reduced to little chunks of raw meat splattered against walls, sidewalks and streets.

Government doesn’t care enough to secure borders, or to profile, round up and deport those who will attack us. They don’t care, I don’t care. I don’t live in a city that is likely to be hit. I don’t use public transportation. I will probably not be involved. It’s really somebody else’s problem.

 

[longeyes]

I live in Los Angeles. For now. So I AM concerned. But attacks anywhere are going to have a significant and widespread impact on ALL of America. Just take out one major truck artery and see which "immune" communities are really immune.

America isn't going to function very well as a cultural amputee. That's a fantasy.

Then there's the whole unpleasant issue of biological terror...

We are going to have to look at this systemically.

 

[longeyes]

The LAPD is just giving itself an out. They know what's coming.

As for Bratton he's busy tearfully apologizing over shootings that are one more symptom of how Los Angeles, and America by extension, is slowly crumbling...

 

[Blackhawk 6]

If I were a white (IRA?) bomber, suicide or otherwise, the easiest way to throw suspicion away from me would be to do it near an Arab (of whom there are many in London.) Look at what their evidence is: Pakistani youths reported missing on that day and, in some cases, their remains found in the bombings.

Its not like committing a crime. You want people to know who was responsible.

The idea behind a terrorist attack is to attract attention to your cause by creating fear. The terrorist believes if he can create enough fear, the populace will influence the government to do what the terrorist wants. This is why a terror organization generally claims credit shortly after an incident.

Unless the IRA is promoting the Fanatical Muslim agenda, I do not believe they were involved.

 

[El Rojo]

Just take out one major truck artery and see which "immune" communities are really immune.

Come on now, you should know better than that. Would you consider the Grapevine (that is the main highway north out of LA connecting it to Northern California, Oregon, and Washington) a major artery? I would imagine so. So last year when it snowed real bad over the Grapevine and it was closed for two days, why didn't our communities shrivel up and die? Oh because they re-routed the trucks onto the 58 and down the 14 back to the 5 in Sylmar. I think you would be hard pressed to find a truck artery anywhere that didn't have a way around it. Sure it might take 2 extra hours or more, but there is still a way around it.

Pretty much Los Angeles could fall off the face of the earth and it wouldn't hurt us too much. Sorry. Its not like we get our water from Los Angeles. Wait actually it is the other way around, so actually if LA disappeared and there are still elk and deer to eat in the hills 30 minutes away, I think I would do just fine for a while, afterall without Los Angeles sucking all of our water dry, we might actually be better off. Ah, but we would probably be short on food and textiles! Oh wait, Kern County and the rest of the central valley feeds a good chunk of America. Ah, but we would have no beef! Darn it, I forgot about Harris Ranch and the hundreds of other ranchers all up and down the central valley. I got it, OIL! We couldn't live without Los Angeles's oil. Oh wait, again Kern County has quite a bit of it and there is always the ANWAR in Alaska.

No, I am quite content living in the sticks and if something does happen in a major city, I don't think it will stop life as we know it. And if you want some proof, how does 9/11 sound? The entire airline industry shut down for what two days? I still got paid at the end of the month and didn't starve.

I think we give these terrorist acts too much credit some times. Sure a nuke would be pretty serious. Bomb a few cities, people will go on and I would think especially in the rurual areas where we aren't concerned about big city folk. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but that is why I don't want to live in Los Angeles anymore.

 

[R.H. Lee]

Pretty much Los Angeles could fall off the face of the earth and it wouldn't hurt us too much.

The result would be a net gain, and the west coast would smell much better. If it could only take San Fransyphco with it.................

 

[longeyes]

Hmmm. Maybe I-5 out of commission for, say, two or three months...?

And what happens when all the sad-ass cityfolk start arriving on the doorsteps of hardy countrydwellers? Shoot 'em all?

As for the disappearance of "irrelevant" culture centers like NYC and L.A., well, I give most rural American families about a week without TV before they fall prey to somnabulism and catatonia and vicious innuendo...

 

[longeyes]

I wonder what the acceptable number of bombings will be here.

How bored are Americans? I guess we'll find out. Perhaps the bombings will become our next spectator sport.

 

[R.H. Lee]

And what happens when all the sad-ass cityfolk start arriving on the doorsteps of hardy countrydwellers? Shoot 'em all?

HAHA! They couldn't make it this far in their SUV without a fill up-except for the hybrid vehicles-any one of us could make a tofu eating hybrid vehicle driver faint with just a mean look.

LAPD is preparing for the aftermath of an inevitable terrorist 'event'. That's why they're called first responders. (Actually, I've been told I'm a 'first responder' too, because I work for a hospital) There will be no reason to evacuate the cities, look at London and prepare for the same.

 

[longeyes]

I'm not concerned: I'll just take the tunnel back over to TJ...

 

[El Rojo]

Hmmm. Maybe I-5 out of commission for, say, two or three months...?

Sort of like during the 94 Northridge Quake when the freeway collapsed at the 14 and I-5 interchange and they just rerouted the traffic onto the surface street until it was up and running again? I am telling you, unless they use a nuke, I don't see how they are ever going to shut down a road for a extended period of time. I guess you could blow all of the overpasses, but we could probably just as easily blow them right out of the way and slowly rebuild the overpasses as traffic flows below. I just don't see it happening.

As for the disappearance of "irrelevant" culture centers like NYC and L.A., well, I give most rural American families about a week without TV before they fall prey to somnabulism and catatonia and vicious innuendo...

It is called network televison on the DSS satillite system. Sorry longeyes, us hicks just don't need city folk. And lets face it, who owns more guns? Law abiding citizens of Los Angeles or anyone in Kern County? Maybe I couldn't shoot them all, but I could get a few thousand and the rest of the neighborhood just as many. Now if East Los decides to head this way, we will have a decent fight on our hand. They have AKs and I only have my FAB-10!

 

[Alex45ACP]

The government is behind the entire War on Terror and it was a plot by King George to further his dad's idea of a "New World Order" to pay these CIA operatives to blow themselves up in London.

You just thought of this? I've been thinking about it since 9/11

 

[Werewolf]

And what happens when all the sad-ass cityfolk start arriving on the doorsteps of hardy countrydwellers? Shoot 'em all?

Would the country folk have any other choice? I think not.

If the TEOTWAWKI ever does happen then city folk will rapidly become extinct - most of 'em anyway.

OTOH if just one or two cities get vaporized there's enough other cities to take the displaced city folks into their own urban folds that the country folk won't have to break out the guns.

 

[longeyes]

Interesting thread. Rural America's ready to waste urban America. Okay. Good to know. Also good to know that rural America will be watching TV that was created somewhere other than major urban centers. Okay. I'll have to let my cohorts in the entertainment biz in on that one. Funny, I was under the impression that the folks who write, direct, and produce the stuff the rest of America is hooked on live "in city." Of course I guess you'll get re-runs of "The A-Team" from satellite, yeah. Sounds thrilling. And I'm not in the terrorism business but if badguys really want to make sure I-5 ain't operational they are smart enough to figure out a way to keep repairs from happening.

I find the us versus them, country versus city polarities unproductive. Bash L.A. all you want, America's future is being forged here, for better or worse.

 

[R.H. Lee]

Interesting thread. Rural America's ready to waste urban America. Okay. Good to know.

NO, NO, NO. I was about to respond to Werewolf’s remark……..If someone showed up on my doorstep looking for help, they would get whatever help I could provide. I’m not about to shoot someone showing up at my door for help, no matter where they come from. I know the great majority of my neighbors would do the same.

 

[Andrew Rothman]

Pretty much Los Angeles could fall off the face of the earth and it wouldn't hurt us too much. Sorry. Its not like we get our water from Los Angeles.

Well, the Port of Los Angeles is the busiest port in the U.S., moving $122 billion worth of cargo every year. We might miss that.

 

[R.H. Lee]

Well, the Port of Los Angeles is the busiest port in the U.S., moving $122 billion worth of cargo every year. We might miss that.

I wonder how much of that is incoming stuff from China contributing to the trade deficit.

 

[Cosmoline]

Well, the Port of Los Angeles is the busiest port in the U.S., moving $122 billion worth of cargo every year. We might miss that.

True, but Seattle and Portland are willing and able to take up the slack if Long Beach goes down. Plus, there are good deep-water ports up and down the Oregon coast that don't get used much. The country would be better off without California in every respect.

 

[Werewolf]

I’m not about to shoot someone showing up at my door for help, no matter where they come from. I know the great majority of my neighbors would do the same.

ONE is the operative word here. Helping one man or one man's family is doable. Maybe even 10 but where do the small towns and individual farmers/ranchers draw the line.

NOTE: I'm talking a TEOTWAWKI situation here - not one where a major road is shutdown for a week or a month. In that case the city weenies will stay right where they are expecting Momma Gubmint to come in and feed 'em.

Millions live in the city. What do the country folk do when 100's or even 1000's of refugees show up in their towns and at their farms and ranches demanding to be fed? Where do you draw the line? Are you gonna let your children go hungry to feed some non-productive urban dweller? Call me callous if you will but Darwin always wins and I for one don't plan to be cleansed from the gene pool just so some urban family won't.

If they can be integrated into rural society without rural folk suffering losses to their own lives and families I'm sure it will happen but I don't believe it will. City folk don't have the where with all to integrate into a country lifestyle. They don't have the skills and worse they don't have the temperament.

Some will fit in - IMO, most won't.