Lee 9mm Factory Crimp Die Makarov

[Skidsteer1]

Good morning, I have a Dillon Square Deal B progressive loader and am currently loading 9mm. Loading 115grn FMJ. My buddy recommended this crimp die. I have fired over 200 cartridges so far without one hiccup in a Walther PPQ M2 9mm. What if anything, would you recommend? Do I really need it? Currently this die is quite popular and hard to find around here in Minnesota. Thanks in advance. Skid.

 

[Demi-human]

Why does he say you need it?
Having bullet set back problems?
Why search for, and spend money on, an item you don’t need?

 

[KB Hill]

I have found the die helpful in processing range brass for a tighter chambered pistol. It is typically used as a case "Bulge Buster", but not a crimp die for your 9mm 9x19. Unfortunately your SDB takes proprietary dies and can't use the FCD. As stated above, if all your rounds plunk and function, it sounds unnecessary.

 

[WeekendReloader]

I have a Walther PPQ M2 9mm. I use the 9mmMAK FCD as a 'Bulge Buster' to push range pick-up brass through before sizing.
Is it needed, probably not.

I found that a few cases did not pass my case gauge after sizing and using the 9mmMAK FCD as a bulge buster fixed that. The chamber in my Walther is larger than my Hornady 9mm case gauge, so I probably wouldn't have noticed an issue if I just used my chamber as the case gauge.

 

[Blue68f100]

Good morning, I have a Dillon Square Deal B progressive loader and am currently loading 9mm. Loading 115grn FMJ. My buddy recommended this crimp die. I have fired over 200 cartridges so far without one hiccup in a Walther PPQ M2 9mm. What if anything, would you recommend? Do I really need it? Currently this die is quite popular and hard to find around here in Minnesota. Thanks in advance. Skid.

You have learned to setup your dies correctly so the die is not needed. A lot of those recommended it have problems setting up their dies so a round will chamber as it should. They use it to fix there lack of knowledge on how to do it right. I've hand loaded for over 40 yrs and do not own one. Now with that said I know there is some uses for the LFCD in rifle. Pistol dies are bad if your shooting lead since the post sizing ring. This ring sizes the bullet down reducing neck tension in some cases.

So NO, Keep doing what your doing since it is working.

 

[Skidsteer1]

Thanks all. I think this forum is great!

 

[WeekendReloader]

You have learned to setup your dies correctly so the die is not needed. A lot of those recommended it have problems setting up their dies so a round will chamber as it should. They use it to fix there lack of knowledge on how to do it right. I've hand loaded for over 40 yrs and do not own one. Now with that said I know there is some uses for the LFCD in rifle. Pistol dies are bad if your shooting lead since the post sizing ring. This ring sizes the bullet down reducing neck tension in some cases.

So NO, Keep doing what your doing since it is working.

This is not entirely accurate.

I was having an issue on some brass (IMI in particular) where the sizing die would push a 'ring' down at the base of the brass where the carbide of the sizing die stopped. Perhaps that batch of IMI brass was softer that usual, I don't know, but it was definitely not a setup of the die problem. Pushing the fired brass through the 9mmMAK die first straightened out the case and then it went through the sizing die without an issue. These IMI cases were fired in a Ruger SR9 with a tapered chamber, not a Glock, so not sure what the deal was. The 9mmMAK FCD fixed the issue I was having.

 

[CQB45ACP]

Good morning, I have a Dillon Square Deal B progressive loader and am currently loading 9mm. Loading 115grn FMJ. My buddy recommended this crimp die. I have fired over 200 cartridges so far without one hiccup in a Walther PPQ M2 9mm. What if anything, would you recommend? Do I really need it? Currently this die is quite popular and hard to find around here in Minnesota. Thanks in advance. Skid.

May I ask for clarification? Are you already using a crimping die? Or are you seating and crimping with the bullet seating die? Or no crimping at all?

Is it the lack of crimping at all that prompted your buddy to recommend the Mak?

It’s certainly true the 9mm Mak die is good for bulge busting in fact it may be the best, if not only, way to remove 9mm bulges, but Im reasonably sure one wouldn’t use it to crimp standard 9mm.

No one can say with any accuracy “they use it to fix there [sic] lack of knowledge on how to do it right.” Way too broad a statement. The truth is, it’s used by many who know precisely what they are doing and why, but that may be for other than the purpose you ask.

Maybe your question should be, “should I crimp my 9mm pistol cartridges?”

 

[Mark_Mark]

Why does he say you need it?
Having bullet set back problems?
Why search for, and spend money on, an item you don’t need?

I say buy it even if you don’t need it because one blood full moon night, you might need a Lee 9mm FCD

 

[rfwobbly]

Lee 9mm Factory Crimp Die Makarov
Good morning, I have a Dillon Square Deal B progressive loader and am currently loading 9mm. Loading 115grn FMJ. My buddy recommended this crimp die.

Welcome Aboard !

1. Lee does not make dies for the Dillion Square Deal. Period.

2. Your title says "Makarov" but the gun you describe is not 9x18Makarov.

It's very hard to understand what you want or how to help you.

 

[Walkalong]

Some folks use the Lee 9MM Mak die as a bulge buster for 9MM Luger cases.
I just scrap any 9MM Luger cases that don't pass my Wilson gauge after sizing.

 

[Skidsteer1]

Gents, if you did not already know, station #4 on a square deal b is a crimp die only. As was said in this thread previously by others, and myself, I don't think I have any problems at all. All my rounds go "plunk" in my barrel and as long as I don't use mixed brass, these round are very accurate if I do my part. Thanks, Skid.

 

[joneb]

Never had the need for a post sizing die for any cartridge I reload for, if I did I would find the problem and fix that. The Lee FDC is a band aid not a fix.

 

[9mmepiphany]

I have a Dillon Square Deal B progressive loader and am currently loading 9mm. Loading 115grn FMJ. My buddy recommended this crimp die.

He was either pulling your leg or you're leaving some information out.

The Lee Factory Crimp Die cannot be used in a Dillon Square Deal press. The SD uses proprietary dies

 

[CQB45ACP]

Never had the need for a post sizing die for any cartridge I reload for, if I did I would find the problem and fix that. The Lee FDC is a band aid not a fix.

So what do you do/or not do with 9mm pistol cartridges then? No crimp? Or, crimp while seating?

 

[CQB45ACP]

Some folks use the Lee 9MM Mak die as a bulge buster for 9MM Luger cases.
I just scrap any 9MM Luger cases that don't pass my Wilson gauge after sizing.
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I’ve seen you say this before, but I’m not sure this is always the best approach. I for example pick up, scrounge, or buy range brass on every trip and therefore invariably have bulged and other crappy brass introduced into my own reusable supply. Maybe 10% need extra love and throwing them out is a waste. One run through the bulge buster brings them into the fold.

 

[CQB45ACP]

Gents, if you did not already know, station #4 on a square deal b is a crimp die only. As was said in this thread previously by others, and myself, I don't think I have any problems at all. All my rounds go "plunk" in my barrel and as long as I don't use mixed brass, these round are very accurate if I do my part. Thanks, Skid.

I guess I’m not sure why you bothered asking the question in the first place then.

 

[WeekendReloader]

The LEE 9mmMAK FCD can be used as a Bulge Buster on regular 9mm (9x19) brass.
The LEE 9mm FCD is used to make a taper crimp as a separate process step on a finished 9x19 round.

These are two different dies. Never use a 9mmMAK FCD as a crimping die for 9x19.

 

[CQB45ACP]

The LEE 9mmMAK FCD can be used as a Bulge Buster on regular 9mm (9x19) brass.
The LEE 9mm FCD is used to make a taper crimp as a separate process step on a finished 9x19 round.

These are two different dies. Never use a 9mmMAK FCD as a crimping die for 9x19.

True that

 

[Mark_Mark]

I’m getting a 9Mak FCD as a Buster. Learned something new. And, they are available

 

[Walkalong]

I’ve seen you say this before, but I’m not sure this is always the best approach. I for example pick up, scrounge, or buy range brass on every trip and therefore invariably have bulged and other crappy brass introduced into my own reusable supply. Maybe 10% need extra love and throwing them out is a waste. One run through the bulge buster brings them into the fold.

To each their own.

 

[CoalCrackerAl]

My Walther 9mm and my 92 both have very tight chambers. And when loading .356 cast i need to use the FCD on for them. .355 FMJ'S i do not have to.

 

[CQB45ACP]

To each their own.

Indeed
Depending on how strictly the RSO enforces the rules, I lose perhaps 10% at each trip to the range (for example, cases landing ahead of firing line cannot be retrieved) so every one I can salvage isn’t brass, but gold.

 

[Mark_Mark]

Indeed
Depending on how strictly the RSO enforces the rules, I lose perhaps 10% at each trip to the range (for example, cases landing ahead of firing line cannot be retrieved) so every one I can salvage isn’t brass, but gold.

my range club only cares that you don’t cross the line. Brass... they sell by the pound

 

[Walkalong]

I don't play the pistol games, so my brass need isn't as great, and I have buckets of it I have picked up over the years, so I can be a bit pickier about what I use.