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I picked up a freebie Lee Pro 1000 that appears mostly complete with a few mods. I’m wondering if this press uses a plastic insert on the auto-index rod (underneath the turret) similar to the LCT?

Currently, the turret is just sitting directly on the rod. Tried looking for a parts schematic - no joy.
 
If you post some pics, I could help you make sense of it. Not familiar with the LCT, but under the carrier on the pro 1000 there is a plastic index gear and a "slide on" hex gear.
 
Looks like it had been setup for 5.56. My plan is to order a few things to get it up & running for 9mm and have spare turret, shell plate assembly, & bullet feeder for .45 ACP.

The other calibers are low enough volume the Classic Turret or single stage work fine. I’ll get a couple pics up ASAP.
 
The link I posted is a parts list for the 9mm version of the press. There will be a lot of redundant parts between versions. The main differences are the carrier, shell plate, and priming assembly. (Large or small)
The link I posted is an item by item list of the necessary parts. The new style case feeder is non caliber specific. I ordered one, along with a case collator. (Super handy) I don't use a bullet feeder, it's probably handy but I can still get close to 200 rounds/hour setting bullets manually. I like the opportunity to check the case for powder, and pull a case for powder volume occasionally.
 
Yah, thanks - I read the instructions; I just don't want to miss ordering anything that's required. I circled the rod & bottom of turret in the last pic. That's where I'm wondering if anything (like the plastic piece on the LCT) is missing.

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I have the newer version of the same press, there is nothing that fills that void. It is simply the pressure point that turns the indexing rod as the carrier travels up and down. Under the carrier is where the indexing gear and hex gear installs. The circular indexing gear goes under a thin metal plate in the carrier and the slip on hex gear installs under the gear. Both of which you get with a new carrier. However, I would recommend purchasing a few extra of each. I'll look for the part numbers.
 
Lee Pro 1000
Welcome to Lee Pro 1000 club.

Here is summary of steps/mods/QC measures that were taken to ensure smooth reliable operation of the press that could be used as a "pre-flight" checklist for Pro 1000 before each reloading session - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...lutions-no-bashing.507454/page-6#post-9614898

ljnowell, a bullseye match shooter who never used the Pro 1000 asked me to help him setup his Pro 1000 for the first time on this thread - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=761231

THR Pro 1000 reference support thread where we essentially resolved all problems and issues related to the press operation - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/lee-pro-1000-solutions-no-bashing.507454/

I’m wondering if this press uses a plastic insert on the auto-index rod (underneath the turret) similar to the LCT?
No. As MeanBean already posted, center hex rod (Lee calls it "action rod") simply gets inserted into the bottom of the 3-hole turret.

As to replacing the hex ratchet and ratchet gear, they may be in serviceable condition so I would inspect them first (More than likely, it's the hex ratchet, a consumable part that typically lasts around 20K+ ram cycles, that needs to be replaced and not the ratchet gear).

Here are step-by-step instructions for inspecting/replacing them (Factory video for replacing hex ratchet and Factory video for setting Zero Index of shell plate):

1. Remove the shell plate carrier from the ram (Factory video for removing shell plate carrier) - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?attachments/pro1kspcarrier1-jpg.157454/
  • Loosen the hex head bolt (counterclockwise) on the right lower part of the shell plate carrier (blue arrow) using an Allen wrench
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  • Raise the shell plate carrier and put something underneath (I use the plastic tray primers come in)
  • Lower the ram and remove the shell plate carrier
2. How to remove/replace hex ratchet and ratchet gear
  • Pull the center hex index rod out by pushing down from the top. If frozen, use WD-40 or any motor oil to lubricate hex rod inside the shell plate carrier and work the rod back and forth. If still stubborn after lubrication, turn the shell plate upside down and tap down lightly on the bench.
  • Flip the shell plate carrier upside down and unscrew the two phillips head screws (blue arrows) and remove cover.
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  • Remove the hex ratchet inside the ratchet gear without disturbing the Phillips head bolt. Inspect and replace if center of hex ratchet is worn/damaged. If just dirty, clean with WD-40.
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  • Drop in new hex ratchet inside the ratchet gear. (Replace ratchet gear if gear teeth are damaged). If gummy, spray with WD-40 and wipe clean.
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  • Replace cover and tighten the two screws
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  • Clean hex rod (action rod) and lubricate with one drop of gun oil you have on the bench (like BreakFree CLP) or any grade motor oil on your finger tip and rub it all over the hex rod.
  • Insert hex rod from the bottom of the shell plate carrier and gently wiggle through the hex ratchet and out the top of the shell plate carrier. Don't force the rod through as the hex ratchet needs to rotate on the ratchet gear.
3. Make sure the case sensor spring is properly installed (Factory video for changing case sensor spring)- https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...lutions-no-bashing.507454/page-5#post-8699621

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I thought you might chime in here, Livelife. I was attempting to give back the knowledge that you bestowed upon me. Obviously, the apprentice still has lessons to learn.
Funnelcakes, Livelife is the man who helped me get my pro 1000 cooking last year. He knows his stuff and will go out of his way to help.
And Kevin, good to hear from you. I've been trying to hold down the fort until you showed up.
 
Right-on, thanks much all -appreciate the help and links. I ordered-up the few things to at least get it up & running. I need to find time to weld-up a stand & read the above references while the stuff is in transit.
 
I thought you might chime in here, Livelife.

Obviously, the apprentice still has lessons to learn.
Thank you for the kind words.

funnelcake, Pro 1000 is a capable progressive press with off center ram mount under Station #1 that can reduce OAL variance down to .001" with consistent bullets - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...progressive-press.833604/page-2#post-10779806

Since you will be inspecting and replacing any worn parts during caliber conversion, you can clean as you go. As to shopping around, in addition to Amazon, I also check MidwayUSA, FSReloading, Titan Reloading and Midsouth Shooters as they often have lower prices.

Looks like it had been setup for 5.56. My plan is to order a few things to get it up & running for 9mm and have spare turret, shell plate assembly, & bullet feeder for .45 ACP
I did a 9mm conversion step-by-step on this older thread you can reference, especially with factory "how to" videos - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/help-please.843488/#post-10964985

While I recommend the case feeder, I don't use the bullet feeder as I work the ram lever with my right hand and set the bullet with my left hand.


Caliber conversion to 9mm
- You will need the following (Attempt made to link lowest available prices):
  • Small primer attachment (Marked "S" on the side) and primer tray - While .223/5.56 uses small primer attachment, chances are slide surface near Station #2 may be damaged/dented and need replacement. Besides, you will need large primer attachment for 45ACP so I would order a complete primer set - https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1013013476
  • Pro Auto Disk powder measure - Your PAD for .223/5.56 has adjustable charge bar good for larger rifle powder charges but charge bar has difficulty dropping smaller charges for 9mm and I recommend use of PAD which drops most small granule powders with .1 gr variance - https://fsreloading.com/lee-precision-pro-auto-disk.html
1. Changing shell plate with carrier in the press - (Factory video for installing shell plate. Reverse steps for removal) - Remove the 3 hole turret and insert a Phillips screwdriver in Station #1 hole to lock the shell plate and use a 1/4" socket and wrench to loosen the shell plate (clockwise).

2. Changing shell plate with carrier out of the press - Remove the hex rod and insert a Phillips screwdriver in Station #1 hole to lock the shell plate and insert an Allen wrench about 30-45 degrees from the Station #1 slider bar. Clasping the shell plate carrier slide bar with left hand and Allen wrench with right hand, press to loosen the shell plate.

3. Primer attachment - Replace primer attachment while you have the shell plate off the carrier. Be sure to clean the bottom of the priming rod tube as any debri will prevent the priming rod from dropping down fully and may cause tipped primer that can lead to gouging of slide surface of the primer attachment and misfeeding/jam of primers at Station #2. This is number one issue many users of Pro 1000 have and is very preventable as illustrated in detail in this post - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...lutions-no-bashing.507454/page-3#post-7877744

Also, keeping debri from falling into the attachment slide surface of chute will provide more reliable feeding of primers - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...lutions-no-bashing.507454/page-3#post-7878007

Factory video of primer attachment part of shell plate replacement video - NOTE: Priming pin with short end goes in first with spring on top. After shell plate is installed, check proper placement of case sensor spring. Factory video of case sensor spring installation.

Factory video of quick fix of priming rod not dropping down fully (Try this fix first before disassembling the shell plate to get to the priming rod).

4. Install shell plate carrier - Factory video of shell plate carrier installation - NOTE: I use spent primer tray to brace the shell plate against the top of the press frame to ensure the carrier is fully seated on the ram or you will crack the carrier body when you tighten the hex head bolt.

5. Die installation:
  • Factory video for installing sizing die - NOTE: Recheck die adjustment with all stations full of brass and if you see daylight between bottom of sizing die and top of shell plate, lower the sizing die until it barely "kisses" to top of the shell plate
6. Powder measure installation
  • PAD chain attachment - Factory video for installing chain - NOTE: Use of spring at the bottom of the chain is VERY IMPORTANT. If you lose this spring, you can use the spring out of retractable ball point pen.
7. Case feeder installation:
  • (Old case feeder) Factory video for case feeder installation - NOTE: Before using case feeder, make sure you are familiar with press operation and I would recommend you reload several hundred rounds first without using the case feeder. When tightening the case feeder bolts, use a penny on top of a case to obtain the height and get the case feeder as close to the top frame without making contact.
Caliber conversion to 45ACP - You will need the following (Attempt made to link lowest available prices):
Press parts replacement and set up is same as 9mm caliber conversion.

Let us know how things go and feel free to ask if you run into any questions or issues.
 
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Hello funnelcake,
The press you picture is actually a second generation press, the early ones used a roll pin thru the sides to hold the ram linkage in place. Also the powder measure you received is the better of the two that were used and it is actually fine and accurate for powders like HP-38, AA#2, AA#5, Silhouette. I have used all those powders in the Adjustable disk and get very little leakage.

I am one that uses the press as designed, meaning with the on press priming and I haven't had a problem with primers after I found what is not just needed but really required. With out using the case feeder I can easily load 200 9mm per hour at a nice leisurely pace and still stopping every 20 or so to check weigh powder drops.

If you would like to prime on this press you will absolutely need to mount this press so that it does not move. Does not wiggle, flex, shake, jerk or tilt. The reason being is that if you study the priming system you will find that the primer is set and balanced on an open anvil. There is nothing there to hold it in place. It does not drop into a cup like just about every other primer system does. So it the press wiggles or vibrates it can and does shift the primer off center and then you have all sorts of problems.

here is a youtube link that will walk you thru the carrier and shellplate disassembly, cleaning and reassembly. It is two parts.
 
I was mistaken. Livelife is a staple around these forums, and surely knows his stuff, but kvm1954 was who I was thinking of. He is the guru that helped me get my pro 1000 running smooth. He'll straighten you right up.
Now, it's good to see you Kevin, sorry for the mix up.
 
I was mistaken. Livelife is a staple around these forums, and surely knows his stuff, but kvm1954 was who I was thinking of. He is the guru that helped me get my pro 1000 running smooth. He'll straighten you right up.
Now, it's good to see you Kevin, sorry for the mix up.
That's why public forums like THR exist, so people can network and obtain support instead of pulling your hair out (Like many of us did when we started reloading without gun forums and Youtube :D).

Besides, it's good to see continued interest in the humble Pro 1000 as I now do most of my reloading on the Auto Breech Lock Pro while several Pro 1000s and Dillon 550/650 sit idle.
 
Besides, it's good to see continued interest in the humble Pro 1000 as I now do most of my reloading on the Auto Breech Lock Pro while several Pro 1000s and Dillon 550/650 sit idle.

Honestly, I believe this is the only place I can come and talk about the Pro1000 w/o getting completely burnt to the ground.
I too now use the Auto Breech Lock Pro (which I now see Lee cataloging it as the Pro4000 again when purchased as the full kit) because I came upon a load that I needed to use the Carbide FCD. But I still find the Pro1000 faster. When they redesigned the Pro1000 with the new base I wish they would have added a fourth position but that would have defeated the new press.
 
If you would like to prime on this press you will absolutely need to mount this press so that it does not move. Does not wiggle, flex, shake, jerk or tilt. The reason being is that if you study the priming system you will find that the primer is set and balanced on an open anvil. There is nothing there to hold it in place. It does not drop into a cup like just about every other primer system does. So it the press wiggles or vibrates it can and does shift the primer off center and then you have all sorts of problems.
I have been reloading on Pro 1000 mounted on a castered portable bench for 10 years including press priming. Before that, I used heavier 6' and 8' castered bench in the garage that could support the weight of engine blocks but I built a smaller one to be able to reload anywhere inside the house in the comfort of air conditioning in the summer and heating in the winter.

This 2'x3' castered portable bench was built so it could turn into bedroom doorway from even narrow hallways and be able to be stored in walk in closets when not in use. Not only have I successfully used the Pro 1000 to press prime but also resized military .308 cases with thicker brass with C-H 205 press mounted on the opposite end (Even with empty weight of the bench due to presses mounted at the ends) - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/mounting-a-press.848607/#post-11072171

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As to Pro 1000 priming issues, we have addressed it to resolution long before you arrived at THR - And it is a PREVENTABLE issue.

Picture below shows normal operation of Pro 1000 primer attachment with top of priming rod falling almost/slightly below flush with the primer attachment sliding surface. Primer alignment on top of the priming rod is done by the weight of the primer column in the attachment chute against the end of the attachment (Even while being primed on a castered portable bench ;)).

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But as below picture illustrates, when there is debri that falls into the priming rod channel (Like powder granule), priming rod cannot drop fully and will stick up above the primer attachment slide surface causing the primer to tilt up (see white arrow in picture below), even to make contact with the bottom of shell plate and if bad enough, lock up the press operation (which prompts choice 4 letter words to be uttered by the operator).

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So how did powder granule get into the priming rod channel?

Powder falling from the powder measure on top of the primer attachment chute opening - This is why I suggested using some kind of a cover (even simple one made from paper or clear plastic) to catch powder granules and to keep the primer attachment slide surface clean - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...lutions-no-bashing.507454/page-3#post-7878007

So how many reloaders use their Pro 1000 without any cover over the primer attachment chute opening? Maybe the same number of reloaders having priming issues? ;)

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Forcing ram lever when shell plate is locked up by tilted primer - And if you force the ram lever when the primer is tilted by the priming rod, it will gouge/mar the primer attachment sliding surface making the primer feeding less reliable as now gravity based primer feed (especially with lighter small primers) will have greater difficulty sliding onto the top of priming rod not dropping to below flush. Lee Precision released this quick fix video in response to this issue, but if powder granules are not cleared from the bottom of the priming rod channel, shell plate needs to be taken off to release the primer attachment from the shell plate carrier to have the bottom of channel cleaned out to allow the priming rod to drop down below flush again. (Using compressed air to blow out the granules from the bottom of the priming rod channel could resolve this issue as well)

Of course, once the primer attachment slide surface is gouged/marred, primers will not feed (slide down the chute) reliably and primers placed partially on top of the priming rod will once again tilt up instead of sliding up into the primer pocket and if the case is allowed to be charged with powder, powder granules will leak down on top of the priming rod and down into the priming rod channel, repeating the "Pro 1000 priming problem" that is preventable in the first place.

Doing a QC check at the start of each reloading session to manually activate the case sensor to drop the priming rod should be part of pre reloading session checks to avoid priming issues - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...lutions-no-bashing.507454/page-6#post-9614898


Tilting primers can also be caused by shell plate index not zeroing - This is easily preventable problem as shell plate index can be checked at the start of each reloading session and adjusted. Here's Lee factory video showing proper index adjustment


Repairing damaged/gouged/marred primer attachment sliding surface - Picture below shows mildly/moderately damaged primer attachment from forcibly operating the ram lever when tilted primer locks up the shell plate.

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To repair the damage, primer attachment pin was removed with padded pliers and two halves carefully pulled apart

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And using folded copy paper, damaged slide surfaces (white arrows in below picture) were "burnished" by sliding/rubbing the folded edge of paper hard and fast until surface was smooth and polished.

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Below picture shows damaged attachment surfaces on the left and new/repaired primer attachment surfaces on the right. Of course, if damaged surface cannot be repaired smooth, the primer attachment needs to be replaced with a new unit to perform reliably.

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Primer brand / Size / Cup hardness contribution to feeding reliability - On top of these issues, when metric sized primers started selling in the USA, some brands having slightly larger diameter primer cup (If primer attachment slide surface was already damaged/gouged/marred), made even clean new reloading session primer seating difficult. This problem was made even worse by certain headstamp brass (S&B, RWS, etc.) having tighter primer pockets. With metric primers like Fiocchi, seating below flush or even to flush is not doable with tighter primer pocket cases (And when I was using Fiocchi primers with once-fired brass, I had to cull S&B/RWS brass and use Winchester primers).

Based on my experience, CCI/MagTech/Winchester SP primers are the best feeding primers for Pro 1000. Some may raise the issue that diameter of primer cups are close enough or even same BUT there is difference in cup hardness (pliability) and ability for the anvil feet to give during seating as brass quality can vary by manufacture.

Here is Tula SP of particular lot that many reloaders had ignition issues with due to cups being harder. We all know CCI SR primer cup should be harder than SP primer cup yet below comparison picture shows Tula SP primer cup with lighter indent (BTW, CCI primer ignited and Tula primer did not) - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...ts-your-experience.630512/page-3#post-7807007

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Comparison picture showing different brass/nickel plated primer cup of varying hardness and anvil shape (PMC with softest, most malleable primer cup and Tula with hardest, least malleable primer cup).

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Honestly, I believe this is the only place I can come and talk about the Pro1000 w/o getting completely burnt to the ground.

I too now use the Auto Breech ... I still find the Pro1000 faster. When they redesigned the Pro1000 with the new base I wish they would have added a fourth position but that would have defeated the new press.
Over the years, countless Pro 1000 users have been helped with their presses to the point where talk of Pro 1000 issues, particularly primer feed reliability is almost presently nonexistent here on THR. And any issue that arise is quickly resolved.

I was trained to reload for USPSA on Dillon 550 and Pro 1000 at the same time by a seasoned bullseye match shooter. When match loads produced on both presses resulted in comparable accuracy, I asked my mentor which press I should buy and he asked me, "Do you think your match pistol is able to tell which rounds came from which press if the finished dimensions are consistent?" ;) So due to auto index feature and fixed volumetric Pro Auto Disk holes that cannot drift powder charges, I chose to go with Pro 1000 to load my match loads.

And during my 25 years of marriage, whenever I would drool over Dillon 650/1050, my wife would quietly ask, "But honey, will they produce more accurate match loads?" And every time, I had to begrudgingly admit, "No". (She did finally give in and let me buy the 650 with case feeder and my sister/BIL bought me the 550 for retirement)

Why?

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Pro 1000 shellplate carrier uses offset ram mount similar to the new Auto Breech Lock Pro (Pro 4000). When the shellplate is indexing (rotating without load), the bottom of shellplate does not contact the carrier/subplate as there exists a very small gap (the shiny wear circle you see on bottom of shellplate is from the ball bearing which applies tension to shellplate to "lock" into station). But when the shellplate is under load, limit of shellplate tilt/deflection is set by the bottom of shellplate contacting carrier/subplate (either Station 1 when resizing or Station 2/3 when seating bullet/flaring only).

This is demonstrated when sizing effort is harder (which pushes the entire shellplate down) and produces slightly longer OAL while when seating/flaring only (with no brass in Station 1), OAL is shorter.

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The shellplate carrier is firmly mounted to the ram but the shellplate 'free-floats" inside the carrier attached to the center hub that hex "action rod" goes through and when you rock the shell plate, you are feeling this play. If you look at the picture above, there is no bearing the shellplate/center hub turns on as they were meant to "free-float" when there is no load on the shellplate.

So it's the top of carrier surface that is providing travel limit for the shellplate which determines the OAL variance of the loaded rounds. And this was myth busted in this thread where even with mixed range brass, using RMR 115 gr FMJ produced .001" OAL variance (Which BTW is the same as ELEY's new match ammunition using RMR 124 gr FMJ with .001" OAL variance) - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...progressive-press.833604/page-2#post-10779806

And due to this level of OAL consistency, I loaded all of my THR load development, test verification and myth busting rounds on the Pro 1000 for years (More recently on Auto Breech Lock Pro).

Advantage of mounting the ram under Station 1 where resizing takes place, although more effort is applied on the ram, bottom of shellplate under the brass being resized contacts the carrier/subplate limiting further travel, theoretically will have less affect on tilt/deflection of the shellplate. Whereas, progressive presses that mount ram under the center of shellplate can tilt using the subplate as the fulcrum.

The new Auto Breech Lock Pro (Pro 4000) also uses off-set ram under Station 1 (with long case slider).

Coincidence? I don't think so.

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Apology to the OP as likely more than enough technical information to get you started but with thread title like "Lee Pro 1000", it will attract the usual Pro 1000 haters who may have used the press at the start of their reloading journey not fully aware of progressive press operation and instead of troubleshooting, perhaps just blamed the press and moved on.

As illustrated in detail on many different brand threads, all progressive presses have inherent issues unique to brand and model. But the goal of THR, at least H&R category, is not to argue which color of press better goes with decor rather be able to isolate the problems and address them to resolution, which we have done time after time.

Information provided thus far should allow you to get your press set up and reloading. And as already posted, if you run into any issues or have questions, I am sure they will be addressed promptly by THR members.
 
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I came upon a load that I needed to use the Carbide FCD
If you have the need to use the FCD as a "finishing" die or want to seat and crimp in separate operations using the 3 station Pro 1000, you can separately resize/prime the brass and use Station #1 for powder charging, Station #2 for bullet seating, Station #3 for crimping. ;)
 
Yuep, much of this was before me and I have seen some of it but not all. Guess I have to believe you about the bench, though the ridged bench was one item I was told about from the beginning and it worked for me. I enjoyed reading the notes on the primer chute, that one I haven't seen. I have one used one that was starting to show signs of the next in line primer tipping as the carrier was lowered to raise the anvil. Will have to look at it now and try that.

The FCD is because of just one gun. A 45acp Witness. those rounds will reliably cycle and chamber in every other gun we have tried them in then a Mod over at the CZ forum convinced me to try the FCD and it worked. I cannot feel anything while using it nor can I find a measurement change but I know it's changing something. Some people tell me I should send the gun out and have it altered and sorry but I'm not going to do that. The gun is 28 years old now.
 
I enjoyed reading the notes on the primer chute, that one I haven't seen. I have one used one that was starting to show signs of the next in line primer tipping as the carrier was lowered to raise the anvil. Will have to look at it now and try that.
Believe me, there have been many of us on THR scratching our heads and pondering and wondering trying to get to the bottom of Pro 1000 priming issue. When I once posted the cause for tilted primers and gouged attachment slide surfaces were due to powder granules at the bottom of the priming rod channel, question was posed, "Well, how did they get there?" That's when the light bulb went off and I went, "We need a cover for the chute" and one by one, members reported less and less priming issues. :thumbup:

While I offered the burnishing repair option, many members opted to buy new primer attachments as I figured their units were far beyond repair. :D


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The FCD is because of just one gun. A 45acp Witness. those rounds will reliably cycle and chamber in every other gun we have tried them in then a Mod over at the CZ forum convinced me to try the FCD and it worked. I cannot feel anything while using it nor can I find a measurement change but I know it's changing something. Some people tell me I should send the gun out and have it altered and sorry but I'm not going to do that. The gun is 28 years old now.
When I bought my railed Sig 1911, I knew the barrel chamber was tight with almost no leade. Well, it turned out to be the tightest barrel I have seen (And I have seen tight USPSA match barrels) that required very consistent finished dimensions (And why I liked my humble Pro 1000 more and more). Like you, when I experienced odd chambering issues with almost same OAL rounds that would freely chamber vs snag the chamber wall, I wondered again.

What I realized was inconsistency of case wall thickness on the SAME case coupled with out-of-round bullets. So I did myth busting of case wall thickness at 0.100" below case mouth by headstamp and measuring at 12/3/6/9 O'clock - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...nd-bullet-setback.830072/page-3#post-10712225

Then I realized case neck bulging was more prevalent at 0.200" below case mouth where case wall was thicker - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...nd-bullet-setback.830072/page-3#post-10713822

And since the taper crimp die applies narrowing mostly at the case mouth (We even tell others to just remove the flare and why increasing the taper crimp won't really improve neck tension), if thicker part of case wall stacks on top of out-of-round bullet (Yes, heavy boxes of bullets are rough handled and often dropped, damaging the bullets), you will end up with oval/out-of-round finished case neck instead of round. And if you have tight enough chamber to rub this out-of-round case neck, you will have chambering issues. And you may not measure out-of-round finished rounds if you measure the case neck only once.

And that's where Lee FCD comes in as carbide sizer ring will post-size out-of-round case neck. :thumbup:

But I am OCD and do not use FCD for my 380Auto/9mm/40S&W/45ACP loads.

So for my Sig 1911, I use Pro 1000 to load various 200 gr Lead SWC bullets (Dardas - Now retired, MBC, Z-Cast, etc.) and they reliably feed and fully chamber even in the tightest barrel I have seen with almost no leade. Few that would not fully chamber worked fine in my friend's RIA 1911, my M&P45/PT145.

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