Lee Ram Swage

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I'm not familiar with other swagers, as I made my own. But Lee's looks like a brute! It looks to have 4 die springs in the swage itself, plus the upper has a die spring and a self centering chamfered lead.

If I were in the market for one, I'd try it for under $40.
 
Good looking product. I expect it to be well worth the cost, as with other lee products I’ve tried.
 
I would give it a try if I were loading a lot of surplus brass.
The RCBS press mounted swager is a chore to use and the Dillon bench tool has just kept getting more expensive.

I agree. I had the RCBS and sold it. I ended up just using a reamer, I may try the LEE.
 
I like it and if I swaged primer pockets I'd get one (I have been using a counter sink for 25+ years successfully). Leave it to Lee to come up with new, innovative improvements...
 
it's been out a while now. Does anybody have any experience with this? I kinda need a swager. The RCBS unit looks decent, but apparently my lee classic ram is too wide for the rcbs brass knocker offer cup thing.
 
When I bought their APP press I bought the swage accessary to go with it......it actually worked and the best part is the case feeder. Lots faster than any other method. But they've already changed it and improved it to not even need a case holder. Link below:

https://leeprecision.com/app-swage-kit.html I may end up replacing my original version.

I wonder how different it is from the Ram Swage.....I wouldn't be surprised if all the brain storming for APP accessories gave them ideas for this the Ram version. The neat thing about about the APP version is you don't need to take your main press off line to use it and the case feed works very well.
 
I don't get why folks are having issues with the RCBS swage kit. I have one and im very happy with it.

Good to hear. My RCBS combo swager kit (42.99) just arrived a couple of days ago along with my Lee universal deprimer. I didn't look or even know Lee made one. Probably could have saved 12.99 but I'm not wild about the multiple spring thing. The box is green so WTH.
 
I recently bought the Frankford Arsenal swager.

It’s vertical mounted vs. Dillon’s horizontal. Midway had it on sale for about $65 but it’s normally over $100.

Works fine and since I only use range brass crimps are not uncommon.

BUT presuming the Lee gizmo works, I’d be happy to not have another separate piece of equipment like the Frankford Arsenal.
 
Wish they would have done this years ago, and wondered why they didn’t have one. I bought the RCBS one for a single stage and have used it for years. It works and I like it, just wish Lee made one a long time ago. I’d try it but really couldn’t justify it as what I have works and not buying new gadgets is one way to save money reloading.
 
Wish they would have done this years ago, and wondered why they didn’t have one. I bought the RCBS one for a single stage and have used it for years. It works and I like it, just wish Lee made one a long time ago. I’d try it but really couldn’t justify it as what I have works and not buying new gadgets is one way to save money reloading.

Can't justify it? What kind of reloader are you that you can resist buying a new toy! A new smarter generation I guess. ;) Well I'm not rich, but I find it hard to resist new toys that promise increased reloading comfort, speed, or efficiency, and at prices under $100. I'm part of the old dumber generation looking for better faster tools .... you know, so much to reload, so little time left.

Lets see.....I started with the old RCBS press mounted swager when I was given a 100 LC 7.72 cases from 1970....old hard stuff that was hard to swage. Some even sheared off and left rings of brass in the pockets that made proud primers and I experienced my only slamfire in 35 years of reloading. I called RCBS.....they said to send in my button and 5 pieces of brass I was swaging. I did.....they sent me a new button and both their new reamers for the Trim Mate I had.....and I got by. But I never liked the hard release of the button from the case that required a hard bump of the press handle, and banging that cup hard against my R.C. casting....that always unnerved me....no danger to me but I had visions of eventually breaking the press casting.

Then a few years ago I bought a huge box of LC 7.62.....and....I bought RCBS's new bench swager.
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Much, much easier to use that the old one. No bumping required. But you still have the occasional hard brass that resists swaging. So I did a ritual......swage, then a quick bump on the reamer (TrimMate) then the pocket uniformer. Excellent, and I could use my progressive and even prime on it without the usual annoying stoppages due to caught primer edges. But fast? Not hardly.


Happy with it, but then the Lee APP came along.....and it had a swager accessory and more important it had a CASE FEEDER! Initially I was stoked, then turned off, then I actually forced myself to read carefully the directions......hey! it works.....and it's so fast....and you can adjust it for more swage until it opens and rounds it enough to seat as easy as commercial brass. Hey! And guess what? The APP also deprimes very fast, case fed, even crimped military brass. (got to do that first, right?)See below.:
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So what did Lee do? They improved it? Because the one I have doesn't look like their new one.....
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heck the new one doesn't even use a shell holder....has a case "centerer" ;) No I haven't got one yet.....but I'm the old stupid can't resist a new toy generation, so I will.....now I have something fairly cheap to add to my Christmas list that my wife and kids pester me about every year. And now Lee Precision adds another swager.....the Ram Swager?......well I guess not everyone bought an APP!
 
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Happy with it, but then the Lee APP came along.....and it had a swager accessory and more important it had a CASE FEEDER! Initially I was stoked, then turned off, then I actually forced myself to read carefully the directions......hey! it works.....and it's so fast....and you can adjust it for more swage until it opens and rounds it enough to seat as easy as commercial brass. Hey! And guess what? The APP also deprimes very fast, case fed, even crimped military brass. (got to do that first, right?)See below.:
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So what did Lee do? They improved it? Because the one I have doesn't look like their new one.....
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heck the new one doesn't even use a shell holder....has a case "centerer" ;) No I haven't got one yet.....but I'm the old stupid can't resist a new toy generation, so I will.....now I have something fairly cheap to add to my Christmas list that my wife and kids pester me about every year. And now Lee Precision adds another swager.....the Ram Swager?......well I guess not everyone bought an APP!

Is this a one step swaging operation with the Lee Swager, without a bump on a reamer, for you to the point you are comfortable priming on the progressive? I would think the Lee Ram Swager for a single stage press would work the same as the one you are using on your APP?
 
Is this a one step swaging operation with the Lee Swager, without a bump on a reamer, for you to the point you are comfortable priming on the progressive? I would think the Lee Ram Swager for a single stage press would work the same as the one you are using on your APP?

Yes, if it doesn't swage enough you screw it in until it does. I've never seen the Ram Swager, so I can't say if it's the same kind of design. If it is it should.
 
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