Legal semi-auto quasi-"SMG"

[Ragnar Danneskjold]

I am wondering if there is a semi-auto "SMG" out there that is legal. Meaning, no stock, classified as a pistol, but with a detachable 30rd magazine. Kind of like the AR-15 pistols, except not one of those because they look pretty goofy IMO. And not just a normal pistol with an extended magazine. Basically, something that looks and acts like a small SMG, except isn't fully auto, and isn't an SBR. And I'm thinking 9mm for the caliber.

Any ideas?

 

[Zundfolge]

There are semi auto Uzi and Mac10 and Mac11 pistols, plus the Steyr SPP (semi auto version of the TMP...and DSA makes a clone of it called the TP-9).

Also the Tech 9 is sort of SMG looking (although its a piece of crap).


Other interesting choices;
Czech VZ61 Scorpion (Semi Auto)
There's many different AK47 Pistols on the market.
And while some AR-15 pistols are odd looking, the Bushmaster Carbon15 Type 21S is kinda cool looking.

 

[outofbattery]

HK SP89,Sterling/Sten para pistol for 2 more choices

 

[whitetiger7654]

Don't forget the PS90.

I have both the PS90 and UZI. The PS90 isn't a 9mm but I love the design. The UZI is fun for just shooting stuff, like coke cans and printers.

 

[Deer Hunter]

The keltec .223 pistol gets my nod. It's not 9mm, but it's great fun.

 

[JesseL]

There are also quite few AK 'pistols' floating around, with short barrels and no buttstock.

 

[Andrewsky]

Why are there no Uzi pistols that look like original full-size Uzis but with no buttstock and semi-automatic only?

 

[mp510]

Lusa pistol. It's a clone of the Portugese HK knock-off. Made on the original Portugese tooling.

 

[whitetiger7654]

Why are there no Uzi pistols that look like original full-size Uzis but with no buttstock and semi-automatic only?

There are
http://vectorarms.com/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=3&zenid=e84677d70c94af25f65bd39b92d193d0

 

[DogBonz]

The coolest one that I saw

was, and I could be wrong here, a semi auto MP5.

 

[davepool]

Ditto on the Kel Tec PLR-16, wicked evil looking .223 with a 30rnd mag

 

[Roswell 1847]

Seems like I've seen a semi-auto pistol version of the M3 greasegun.
Only outward difference is no provision for the Wire stock.
Theres also a Pistol version of the Semi-Auto Thompsons. It has the vertical foregrip and looks basically like a thompson with the detachable buttstock removed except theres no rails for attaching a buttstock.

PS
http://www.valkyriearms.com/m3.htm

 

[4v50 Gary]

Calico pistol.

 

[45Broomhandle]

Another Route...

I wanted something similar, but I went with .22rf rather than 9mm. I ended up with the two goodies pictured below. NOW I no longer am interested in such, and sticking with collecting the OLD cheapie, single-shot rifles and pistols. I'll be putting these up for auction soon. Interests change...

Auto-Ordnance Thompson 1927A3 and Italian-made "Bingham" PPS-50.

Best regards, ~ ~ ~ 45Broomhandle

 

[Gunnerpalace]

In regards to the SP89 I was at a gun show a week ago and saw one in a case 1200.00, I thought "this is a steal" because normally they go for over 3000.00 upon further inspection I found the manufacturer SW also known as 'Special Weapons".......

Yeah, it was a letdown.

 

[jrfoxx]

Southern Ohio Guns currently has a used Norinco Uzi clone going for just under a grand (if I remember correctly, dont have the flyer here at work) in thier latest flyer.

 

[M2Pilot]

There's a link above to Valkery Arms (I know I mispelled it). I've never dealt with them but from what I've seen,heard & read from several sources, I'd be very careful dealing with Val.

 

[Ragnar Danneskjold]

That SP89 is pretty sweet. Any ideas why there isn't a move towards something like that now the ban is over?

 

[Zundfolge]

That SP89 is pretty sweet. Any ideas why there isn't a move towards something like that now the ban is over?

Because basically semi auto "subguns" suck.

They don't have the advantages of real subguns (full auto and a stock) but they have all the disadvantages (crappy sights, crappy triggers, crappy ergonomics).

You'd be better off with a Glock 17 and a couple Glock 18 magazines.

 

[Nightwing]

I have a buddy that has a Tech-9. Never seen it fired, but it looks like a cheep piece of crap. But he specifically moved to a dumpy county where this weapon was not considered illegal. All becasue of this gun.... which looks like it sucks. But who could know for sure?

 

[Conqueror]

There are also legal semi-auto versions of the MP5K PDW.

 

[Zundfolge]

Another thought on semi auto SMG clones. The only ones that aren't COMPLETE CRAP are extremely expensive (note that in my first post I linked a bunch of Gunbroker Auctions).

For what a quality semi auto SMG clone would cost you, you could be in an SBR'd AR15 and have a gun that is both significantly cooler and a better shooter.

 

[romma]

Keltec PLR16... They are not legal in CT...

 

[chieftain]

Romma,

I certainly believe you.

But why? what is the excuse your legislative vermin have used to prevent you from one of those fine weapons?

Fred

 

[romma]

But why? what is the excuse your legislative vermin have used to prevent you from one of those fine weapons?

I think it has to do with the length of the barrel...

I tried and was told by a very reputable store that they were not legal....

I have not pursued it since... I want one though. You're right though, fine weapon indeed!